A thought experiment (or not): the fall of civilization, a sapien medicine village

The resources aren’t really that scarce. (Ulimited in the 3d? Most likely not, but not as scarce as fearmongers like it to describe)

What is scarce is the way we transform it

(Lol, imagine plant growth fields to mass agriculture, perhaps having 2 or 3 harvest per year) and stuff as such

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We might reach a point where we transcend our species, but even then…

As long as we live in a physical universe, there’s gonna be trouble…
YET, smarter, wiser, and hopefully more understanding and loving lol, maybe…

Of course, it mattes if theres much tech left, in any such scenarios…

Without tech…

Game over.

I mean smartphones, imagine the tech to build just one.

If Earth ever experiences a natural disaster or a human one…

Let’s hope we don’t need to see such days lol.

You seem to have a distorted perception of human nature. It is rare for humans to feel a single, pure emotion at a given time.

Have you ever seen big families living in harmony, supporting each other’s growth? I have, and I personally know many such families.

A human being has different perceptions of each individual, which elicits different emotions and feelings. Hate is just one emotion that can be identified and corrected by addressing the underlying issue and much hate can be resolved through acceptance…

There are a wide variety of feelings attached to a single person, but the key is identifying which one is dominant.

Hate can easily be transformed into love. I genuinely believe that our family will not only survive but thrive, developing deep love for one another and contributing to each other’s growth, positively impacting our lives.

You hold limiting beliefs as well. Resources are abundant; scarcity is merely a mindset, and it’s not a fairy tale going…

I have a question for you: What do you believe is truly beyond your reach in this lifetime?

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Hey why you deleted it.it is the most common things people experience in their lives…
And some truths about humanity…

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Some painful personal stuff…
I rather not have it on the forum.

Let me share the most wonderful insight about this issue: the panacea for it lies in understanding the interplay between software and hardware.

In this analogy, software refers to our inner programming—beliefs, traumas, emotions, needs, weaknesses, abilities, and talents—shaped by culture, parents, career, environment, personal history, successes, failures, and perceived shortcomings. Hardware, on the other hand, encompasses how we respond, communicate, and behave.

Most people share common needs, desires, and shortcomings. While this may seem complicated, it is surprisingly easy to grasp.

I encourage you to read some books on human psychology. Over time, you will gain a deeper understanding of human behavior and discover what leads to these patterns, including your own faults.

With this knowledge, you can wield power over human interactions—transforming a stranger into a beloved friend, a friend into a foe, or even a foe into a friend at your discretion.

Additionally, this understanding will protect you from exploitation and may even lead you to love humanity unconditionally.

How you choose to use this knowledge is entirely up to you—whether for good or ill—I have no preference. Ultimately, you will find peace with others.

Remember, power is power (Game of Thrones).
Inherently not good or bad entirely depends on your intentions…

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Well, I could certainly read and learn much much much… More than I currently know, whether psychology or other science, and I could learn more about human nature, individuals, persuasion, etc.


Yes, but intentions can change, emotions can change too…

Imagine Captain, with unchecked social and political power…
Yeah, he would probably do as much good as possible for all, but we are all different, we want different things, have different views etc.

He can’t possibly include us all, all the time.
How he would impart justice might not please certain people, and Im giving a mild example…

A dictator is still a dictator, no matter how benevolent lol.

Also, imagine him getting furious…
Just one slip, and it’s game over.
Lol.
He’s not your average Ruler, he’s got superpowers lol.

Imagine someone committing a crime, how would he judge that person?

Etc.
Etc.

There would need to be separation of power, delegation of it, maybe a council, maybe a slight democratic way etc.

Lol, let’s remind anyone these are all imaginary scenarios.

Gonna take a break.
See ya later.

Maybe some new Replies will arrive, maybe Dreamweaver replies lol.

Let’s see…

Let’s close this discussion; it doesn’t seem to be leading anywhere. The choice to join is entirely yours—no one is forcing you.

Now, here’s the most important question: What is your utility? What can you offer rather than just take?

I could ask you the same lol.

Anyway…

As I said, I’m highly skeptical of mankind…

You proved my point.

Conflict arrives naturally.

No point in continuing any discussion.

And one more thing…

You asking me what I would contribute means that you don’t love me unconditionally lol, otherwise you wouldn’t ask what I can offer.
But it’s natural…

We are all self interested.

We love Captain because he offered us so much.

As I said, human nature.

I have my own and most important i know it.
It’s for yourself,myself…

Offering are not limited to only material possessions.
And unconditional love encompasses compassion and goodwill to everyone and it does not mean sharing all your skills,tools and knowledge to random masses or indiscriminately…

It would be a community where development wouldn’t mean violence to more violence or advanced violence(like we have done it now) A community where development would be from violence to non-violence from darkness to light. It would be a community where Minimal sources are used so no buildings or big structures because the people will understand that our actions doesn’t happen in vaccum our every action create suffering for someone else and buildings and big structures are totally useless according to me. I think the criteria for authority will be who is more compassionate and knowledgeable. For raising children’s we have to teach them how to get knowledge we have to teach them valid means of Knowledge(Direct Evidence and logic) so they gain their knowledge knowledge by the valid means of Knowledge. I think the only rule should be there is to do no harm but I know that’s not possible because we have physical bodies so it would be to do only what is necessary(which can’t be delayed, which can’t be stopped)

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