Well because it is a law, it means it applies universally – everywhere, every time, in all dimensions, in all cases, and thus also in our theoretical example 
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Yea sure if you wanna get deep into the macro and micro and all cosmos in between. Lol.
I’m exhausted. Goodnight everyone.
Just read this again. So, we agree then. Cause and effect chains are negotiable. Yep.
I don’t see where we are disagreeing. anyway we are beating a dead horse. Much love. Really going to bed.
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Dont forget the cause of the cause 
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Yep, and the cause of that one, which was the effect of another cause(s). 
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cant be anything but love 
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One could offer a ride to the homeless shelter for a homeless person, or offer to take them to the food bank. They probably could use the company, more than just a few dollars. There are many programs to help homeless, like through churches, so you could help them to take advantage of those. Giving money is good and all, but it is such a short-term fix.
I helped a homeless man from Finland to my home in Texas by flying him here (on a credit card) to live for 3 months in my home, so I’m not speaking out my butt. I had known him for about 3 months by that time, and he was in need of help because his situation turned dangerous. It was on a forum that preaches “love” but you could tell that nobody really cared and even threatened him not to hurt me, when he was the one being hurt.
He was able to pay for his food due to state income, and we are friends to this day over a year later, and he’s doing very well now. He says that 90% of the reason he got his life together was because of the love I showed him.
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Hi @Gnosticmedic27 good morning 
I hope you slept well.
I decided to comment under this post instead of messaging you, so it could be seen by all just like my complaints to you were public as well.
First thing first…
Being fully honest, i did not want to continue this discussion (the one of this thread) on the other post, one because this discussion had nothing to do with the post (the other one) and we were already going on back and forth for a while, and tho i mentioned it, you still kept going. And second because i didnt want to cut you when you obviously had much more to say, and third because it could be a good point to discuss with other members, i did not necessarily mean id continue with the discussion which takes me to the the next point:
Me not interacting at all in this thread had nothing to do whatsoever with my opinion of you in general or regarding your past addictions. I wasnt judging you at all, even tho thats what you think i was not, in fact me not being judgemental was exactly the reason why we were arguing.
My point in regards of homeless or homeless addicts was precisely about giving them what they wanted/needed WITHOUT judging whatever the heck they were going to do with the money. How did that sound judgmental?
I tell you how… which takes me to the 3rd point.
You were triggered. My sounding “condescension” towards and addict touched your old deep wound. And for that i dont apologize. We are responsible for what we say not for what others understand.
But ill tell you this: i understand how you felt, and i apologize profusely if my presence in that split of a moment in your life brought up all kinds of negative feelings and memories you, i know… still struggle to leave behind.
I personally try my best to be out or far from discussions that are very sensitive or that reach a turning point for the worse. Specially if i see that both parts (me and others) have completely opposite points of view regarding a topic. Because whats the point of keep going? It always turns into an ego battle and a desperate attempt to justify the wound that is inside of us and it never ends. Thats why i didnt come here to talk but i gave you the space to openly and fully talk with others about what you wanted. But again, it had nothing to do with judging your past, which takes me to the next point lol
Some of us have crashed with you in threads here and there, we can all agree that sometimes you take everything personal to the deepest corner in you. And that makes it hard to find a middle point of agreeing to disagreeing.
Because it jumps into an out of control spiral that blinds you and all you perceive is rejection towards you from us, when is not, tho our reaction does shows rejection but its not towards you but towards your reaction. Which is different 
Because…
I for instance think you are a great guy, i actually admire you very much, i see you Barry. And when i say i see you, i mean i see your soul and heart, naked. And they are beautiful. They are just very bruised. And thats ok. Ive been there. But the courage to keep fighting to overcome and heal all of it, makes you even further beautiful.
Its actually very pleasant talking to you, we had some great convos in Pms and i always left the conversation feeling awesome, uplifted, even tho we might have been just chit chatting, and thinking…hmmm this Barry really could become a best male friend one day…
You are fully deeply fiercely passionate and that is fantastic!!
You are fiercely loyal, determined and committed to your believes, goals, love, life.
But you still need lots of healing for that bruised heart, soul, mind.
How dare i say this right?
Because i care for you.
Because i want you to be fulfilled and happy
Because the world needs lots of crazy passionate, loyal Barrys
Because thw world needs courageous Barrys to keep pushing humanity for the best
I am nobody to be telling you what to do
But i still will tell you, stepping away from the forum and even internet for a while is a must.
Spending time only with yourself to dig deeply and face those wounds to be healed once and for all… its a must.
Its time.
Dont let those old wounds get in the way of your heart and soul be a light in this world.
We MUST fully strongly courageously and consistently push forward non stop to become the ultimate best version of ourselves. We MUST.
Otherwise, what are we doing here? Why are we using all the tools provided here? Just to collect them?
Nah. We have a responsibility to fulfill and we already long ago decided to be up to pair it.
Step out of the noise. And have a long date with yourself.
For what is worth Barry, your past with all the elements and fuckery in it, its exactly your biggest weapon to fulfill your purpose, that past was needed, it wasnt a coincidence, it HAD to happen, exactly the way it happened so you could grow and teach and help others on the way to recovery. So never ever feel bad about it, embrace it with total joy and love. Once you get to that point of healing those wounds, youll laugh about all you went through avoiding touching that wound. And then that past will become the actual source of knowledge for the rest of your life.
We appreciate you
We care for you
We like you
We want you around
You dont need to be admired, accepted, glorifed, that comes from within, through self love. Forgiving yourself is mandatory, unconditionally loving yourself cant be delayed.
The world needs you, and you need to believe it, completely in your heart, that is so.
But it needs you healed. Mean while, yes our duty is to unconditional love those that are trying to heal and that first and foremost includes our own selves.
Its time. To heal. On your own. Alone. You with you. You have all the tools. And you must.
I hope one day in the future, me and you can hang out drinking Margaritas talking about life watching the sun goes down. I hope one day i can call you brother as if you were so.
Bon voyage.
Just know that i wont be engaging on an ending back and forth chat here with you. Whatever you feel and think after reading this. Ill respect.
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