Agree, with both quotes.
Thanks.
I do think these categorizations are doing more harm than good as people engage in LARPing in game that doesnāt quite fit our world.
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However this implies that you can only be āalphaā or āleaderā when you have to present a skill of yours to others and then by this being approved and validated by them.
This is not true power.
This is the red pill trap of still looking to fullfil external conditions in order to be a leader / be accepted.
You become a leader by changing your core beliefs to those of a leader, not by acquiring a skill which then serves as an external condition to supposedly achieve this status.
If your internal worth depends on otherās approval of your skill or utility, then the moment you lose that skill or utility value, you also lose your internal sense of self-worth.
In my opinion this never works.
People can be Billionaires and presidents but still lack internal self worth.
Their self-worth has a high ceiling in one particular nieche of achievements and then these people use their success in that nieche to make up and cope for the lack of internal self worth in other areas of their lives.
One trick some peopleās conscious minds with oneās skills and achievements and utility value, but one cannot trick their subconscious minds. Never.
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Iām not really addressing leadership skills per se (and I think āleadershipā has been reified to death), rather I was reacting to the hard categories that people are assigning to themselves or others.
I like how people self-organize in response to disasters and mostly manage to do the right thing. When the alpha types from FEMA arrive is usually when things start going wrong. They usually waste precious time establishing authority rather than doing the actions that give legitimacy to that authority.
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Being an alpha is a paradoxical instance.
Youāve to stop giving authority to everyone, specially to people who tell you how to be an alpha.
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My experience with androstenol is not men becoming competitive but women becoming annoying.
I have this feeling society now rejects anything even remotely masculine. They honest to goodness canāt stand it.
And at the same time they wonāt leave you alone cause they canāt get away from the pheromones.
So use at your own risk.
Iām afraid what you want to do requires some good role models or mentors tooā¦and where can you find them?
The best āsocial dynamicsā instructors Iāve seen are basically playboys.
We are wrecked manā¦a whole generation without masculine role models and look where we are.
Sorry for the vent.
We will keep working on self-love I guess xD
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I want to contribute my grain of sand because I feel that every man should reach his maximum potential and the more free men the faster the message will spread.
First of all, the terms āALPHA, BETA, SIGMAā really represent something subjective, they lack a real and universal definition, the reason is that everyone has an idea of what alpha is and they believe that they are (I doubt very much that a man look in the mirror every day and think in your head that you are a beta even though in the eyes of people you are).
From a generalized perspective, I think the terms Alpha and Beta are good benchmarks for evaluating the characteristics that women find exciting (and attractive) in men, for both short-term and long-term mating strategies.
But, you said thisā¦ You have to be brutally honest with yourself, because most of them are too fake with their egos and say āI wonāt do this for womenā but subconsciously continue to seek that validation in one way or another, in fact āimproving themselves.ā yourself, be more muscular, virile, achieve maximum potential, exude confidence, etc" are simple signs of seeking female approval, they just arenāt honest enough with themselves to accept it, think about it, can you bypass millions of years of primitive evolution? and say that you want to improve just for you? No. You want to improve to improve your offspring, have more confidence to have more respect and thus obtain more social status and reproduce, etc, I know what you are thinking at this moment, no, this cannot be so, it is not me, you must be confused, thatās not my case. But, if you really want to do it yourself you should drop the terms alpha, beta, sigma, and if you really want to do it yourself then go monk/brahmacharya/no women mode, seek higher goals and purpose through favor of collective well-being, and do not pay attention to āandrostenol, hormonal excesses, etcā because it will reduce you, they reduce you to a primitive level because hormones are states of the body, hormones, as was well said in the kisspetin thread, will reactivate your desire and that will make you focus on reproducing, you will focus more on women, or the horny will not let you think about your personal goals for the same reason.
So be honest with yourselfā¦
That being said, everything else is simple.
The first thing is self love and complete acceptance of the core of your being. Elimination of trauma. The JAAJ stack is essential and awesome, the guy is a genius. You must hit rock bottom, be completely free, live your life to the fullest.
Secondā¦
I remember someoneā¦ahemā¦ āYou can be so masculine on the outside, you can have a manās body, but if youāre mentally a girl, youāre useless.ā
Work on your mindset, you must get rid of all social conditioning. Only when everything is lost are we free to act. If you lose the need to please someone, to act according to your programming, to explain yourself to someone, then you donāt even have to try to be rude, you already are, being āmasculineā as the archetype is about being, not doing , this is your life and it ends every minute, you must live your life to the fullest.
Then, this can be a lot, too exaggerated for the majority, and the majority would not do it, I donāt blame them, but detach yourself from everything material, man is spiritual, not material, all the great men in history have achieved great feats already that his focus was not on obtaining, but on fulfilling an objective, and that objective was not money, wealth, it was to create an invention to improve humanity, raise collective consciousness, heal others, teach things, etc. If you donāt let go of what you have, it will end up possessing you.
Side note: I think the mindset of the character Tyler Duren is best suited these days for every man looking to achieve something greater with his life, but he represents the extreme and possibly negative side of ultimate masculinity, living his life to the fullest. maximum, focus on his purpose, etc, but not everything about him is great, there are also shadows that must be dealt with, but, that is another topic.
And finally, absorb this: āA man must be someone indomitable and indomitable who does not accept being dominated by anyone, not even by his friends, his wife or his parents, and who must only do his own will, however irresponsible, arbitrary or irrational that it turns outā.
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Well, I did say that I do this for myself First of All, I mean, sure, i dont even deny it, I love women, but why would I even want to have sex or to be in a relationship (?) - its because of myself, It is ALL for MY Sake lol, Not for their good. 
Also, I really love pleasures and to feel good, the only reason to be into anything spiritual is to have more options for a better life, here in this world.
And, I have to read your whole post now.
GREAT Post - Thank You; I think in these terms: pleasure and joy and material things and power and being spiritual - I can do all of these, they are all my goals, well, first is survival; they are complementary to each other, BUT I must not allow material needs to dominate me - because I Am Above Material Stuff Too, we all are.
Basically, I want to Improve Myself, Yes, for Women, if you want to put it that way, but why do i even want women or anything?
To fulfill my needs and my aspirations.
And to be or to have are two sides of the same coin - I want to BE And to Have.
I think I am honest.
I want to BE Fulfilled, on All Levels.
I guess I want a Better Life, and Pure Selflesness and Spiritual Evolution arent my Main goals, but to feel good and to have a good life, although, again, I can be spiritual and seeking material fulfillment.
Just to Add this: it would be a waste to not enjoy and desire material stuff and experiences, I have this material body and I want to Experience Material and Spiritual Joy and Pleasures and all the good stuff that come with a human body - maybe next life i will be asexual, Then I can be a monk and abandon desire (or I will be A.I. or an Asexual Alien, who knows).
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I highly recommend combat (sports) for that reason.
You develope and tame the beast, increase vitality and your confidence, all at the same time.
Great post, stay prosperous.
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I subconsciously still struggle with feeling deserving of being a strong man, and having a healthy relationship.
The ridicioulus thing is, I was a natural leader as a child, people just followed me.
Free-thinking, rebellious, not fearless, but IĀ“ve stood my ground to authoritys.
I was cool af.
Calling them out on their bullshit, respectfully, but independent from who they were.
I had genuine self respect and trust in myself.
Quickly I was put into situations, where I got punished for standing up for myself.
Being outspoken, having integrity, got me into trouble with teachers and other kids.
I was nearly killed for it when i was 7.
With escape and fighting not being an option, IĀ“ve regressed into fawn behaviour, got into femdom porn at 14, numbing the pain, felt like the only thing IĀ“ve deserved.
The women in my reality obviously reflected that.
IĀ“ve been at places where IĀ“ve thought āHey, if humiliation and emasculation is your thing, then accept it, weĀ“re about self love right?ā
But If I observe when I feel drawn to crap like that, itĀ“s always when I feel ashamed/powerless.
When asserting myself bears the potential of existential destruction.
Manipulative people getting favoured about integrity.
So if IĀ“ve faced situations like that, IĀ“ve fully given up on myself, common for people with PTSD.
But I was disgusted by it deep down.
ItĀ“s not who I am and the way I want to live.
I was sick of it and got into Self Improvement and NoFap. Things got better.
IĀ“ve lifted weights 4 times a week, 2x cardio, no pmo, less drugs, limited my daily screen time!!!, cleaned up my diet, close to no sugar, self love/masculinity fields and subs.
After 3 weeks I felt fucking fantastic. Higher Test, frame got broader, 4 pack was forming, I was flexible, strong and confident in myself.
Women constantly checked me out, people in general treated me with more respect.
It was the first time I got openly approached by a woman for sex.
She was cute and submissive towards me.
Pursued, cooked and paid for me from the start.
She picked up subconsciously that I have a certain level of self-respect.
Towards other men she was very agressive and domineering, but constantly on edge.
She wasnĀ“t comfortable with it but adjusted her role, depending on the man.
IĀ“ve asked her about it and her response was literally:
āI know that, but I need to talk to them like that. You are different, I wouldnĀ“t give you that attitude.ā
She was disloyal, low-vibrational and toxic, but she understood energy and social dynamics very well.
In my presence she was able to show herself vulnerable in front of others.
I wasnĀ“t able to hold my self image for longer than a few weeks with her, as I havenĀ“t done enough inner work at that time.
But it set a basic example for myself how I want to live and get treated.
And I believe, no matter what kind of fetishes, gender-stuff etc. many men choose to identify with, that most men want to get treated like a king by their woman.
IĀ“ve came to the same conclusion made by JAAJ:
It didnĀ“t took much to set me apart at that time.
Funny enough, the only person that called me a sexist was the one that gets abused by his gf.
No woman had an issue with me being very masculine.
I was respectful and compassionate towards others.
But IĀ“ve included myself in that too.
Women love strong masculinity, that leads by the heart.
But most men canĀ“t even imagine to get treated with respect and settle for so much less.
We all choose the way we want to live.
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Thank You, Brother, for Sharing.
It takes a lot of courage to be open about oneself, about the past and personal experiences.
I have watched all sorts of porn, from femdom to submissive women stuff, anyway, it was all phases of my life, sometimes I liked one stupid thing, another time another; I tried for years to become more āNormalā, since I am actually quite the strange type ā¦
I know some women like BDSM and all that crap, but I just want to get rid of such filth from my system.
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Fun fact: Chuck Palahniuk is gay. Which kinda explains his obssesion with masculinity in Fight Club.
I agree with the anarcho-primitivist nomadist lifestyle for a healthy sexual drive.
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"Sometimes all you could hear were flat, hard packing sounds over the yelling. Or the wet choke when someone caught their breath and sprayed"
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From where is that quote?
Fight club (since he is the guy who wrote it)?
I have only watched it years ago.
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Nothing to see here, just a bunch of sweaty dudes in a basement.
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I liked the storyline, also quite amazing characters and the ending was mindblowing (I did NOT expect that) (no spoilers for anyone who might read this and has not watched it).
There might be more epic films, sure, but it is quite a good one.
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Hey man, I donāt know if youāre interested, but it seems like the Rite of Passages NFT might be helpful for you. For me, itās been healing and rejuvenating, on an emotional and biological level. I feel more powerful, balanced, and well, more masculine. More free. Like I can take on any challenge. Physically, the effects have been noticeablyā¦ androgenic. Iāll just leave it at that
Lots of folks are talking about the Mental Health NFT that came out recently as well. I donāt have it yet, but I feel like the two in combination would be excellent. In fact, I think I might pick it up today
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IĀ“ve really enjoyed reading your posts on it, very relateable and well written.
Definetly gets on my list, thank you!
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