Ideal World (any type you want, physical, more subtle, etc.)

It’s “democracy” these days lol

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It’s the illusion that we live in. Bad or good it depends on how you react to it. But everything you do. There are law of consequences too.

And of course. Later in life You will react to it.

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The great thing about this world is that increasing your awareness is like a cheat code to this world. Aware of your doings. Self awareness audio from sapien is good for that. And also conceptual realization.

Being good in general is good. But don’t let fear itself controlling your good itself just because you afraid of the karma. Be good because you choose to be good. :)

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Dunno… Mass Effect? lol

You’ll also might get the opportunity to mate with a hot Asari alien too if you lived in a world like that :joy:

The best thing about this as well is you could always migrate to another planet if Earth is not your ideal place you’d like to call home. You could even move to another solar system if you wanted to… so there’d be plenty of options for you if you wanted to give Earth and it’s solar system the middle finger and GTFO.

Space travel, planet colonisation and alien civilisation migration would be the best invention humanity comes up with I’m telling you now. You’d think; “finally… I can now leave this shit hole and never look back!”.

You could even live on an alien habitat like the Citadel from Mass Effect!

…or an asteroid!.. fuck me imagine living on an asteroid!! :joy:


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Ideal world offers no growth.

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Why would you need growth in an ideal world?
Yet, idk, I think that an ideal world would be all the positive, or at least mostly positive and very little negativity/suffering - and Growth would come as a pleasure, not from painful experiences.

A world is a playground for a species to evolve and move onto other realms. An ideal world doesn’t offer that, you can’t have a world without suffering. It is said when Buddha got enlightened, someone asked why can’t he use his powers to make everyone enlightened that no one has to suffer, his answer was it is not possible.

A similar incident is there in Indian scriptures as well. Also if you don’t grow you will be stagnant, you will not be motivated to do anything, that is why I think universe as a video game with levels to cross may sound silly but seems very apt.

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i think it is.

I just checked the definitions…it means perfect and usually unattainable.
But I also checked the etymological meaning - “pertaining to an archetype or model”.
Which model or archetype it is is in our hands imo, so we can always choose.
Thus ideals are constantly changing and evolving according to us, collectively and individually.
So subjectively, I am already living my ideal (which is prone to change), while you might say you are not living your ideal (which is also going to change). We decide, we define the ideal.

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I think capitalism is highly rooted in Ego and individualism.

Meanwhile not enforced communism is a system that’s self-forgetting and egoless, because all people are considered equal and share with each other all their propierty, therefore there’s no personal property (egoic) and individuality (mine and yours) but community (us).

Not to confuse with reinforced communism done by the state, that’s still ego based because people live in fear and coerced by the state.

Marx was ahead of his time, he believed people would actually drop their egos and social status to live peacefully together sharing all commodities.

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Individulism and liberty/freedom yeah but not ego. An egotistical person could use their wealth or money for ego reasons but who cares what he does with his money if he’s not hurting anyone or someone’s property. Without Free-Market Capitalism we wouldn’t have the standards of living we have today or have the technological advancements either.

… there’s no such thing as ‘not enforced Communism’ because all forms of collectivisms (whether it’s even under National Socialism, Feudalism, Technocracy, Theocracy, Corporatism/Cronyism or a Stratocracy etc) are fascist dictatorships or dystopian Hunger Game societies.

I would say the best model would be a Minarchism/Night-Watchmen State. To also eradicate the voting system and replace it with a Libertarian one. A Democracy is just two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner… Liberty is an armed sheep. No system will ever be perfect but limited government intervention, regulations and control is what this world needs right now.

Decentralising industries and the economy in general without any control from private entities/organisations. Eradicate central banks, pharma, science or tech too etc that impose regulations and control.

If you want to go form a community, you can do if you want but you can’t force citizens to join it. Anybody can go join or create a commune if they want to. If you don’t want to make money either and just want to live off the land you can go join an off-grid community (if modern life isn’t for you), but you’ll still have to work either way. You’ll have the freedom to choose how you want to live your life.

No he wasn’t… he was a mass murderer. Communists are dangerous, anti-liberty and violent looters.

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Individuality is imaginary, it’s a delusion, we are not individual beings like bags with “in-and-out”. We create our sense of individuality from a projective identification with specular images (images on a mirror) and significant others (mom, dad, siblings, etc).

In other words, when we see ourselves in the mirror we fall into a double delusion:

1- We believe that there’s “something” that is not us.
2- And then, we believe that the image in the mirror is a “closed” reflection of us.

Ego is based on otherness and delusion, therefore it cannot be an individuality, but an alterity (other from itself).

In this sense, your definition of “egotistical” or “freedom” are imaginary, not rooted in what Ego actually is.

The same can be achieved if people realized that their “universal nature” is work itself and not the achievement of private propierty, like Marx said.

If people weren’t seeking private propierty and were more focused on the present moment and their tasks and their compassion for others, they could do the same work for humanity and achieve the same goals.

Your analisis of politics assumes from the get go a “human nature” myth that was created by Eurocentric societies, the idea that there are “wolves” and “sheeps”, even wolves don’t eat sheeps when they’re not hungry, so, that myth is totally false and cannot explain the nature of human beings, which is socially constructed.

Most of what you described are Euro-centric ideologies not shared by many other cultures.

What we see as “normal” today, wasn’t normal 500 years ago, and what was “normal” 500 years ago isn’t normal today, so, reality for us has nothing to do with biology or Darwin, but it’s created by our logical processes, linguistical interpretations, social ideals (God, what’s right or wrong) and attachments (power), which changes from society to society, if you know anything about anthropology and how societies organize.

You’re confusing Mao, Lenin & Stalin with Marx, which each one of them had different philosophies from Marx.

Read Marx, he could have made tons of millions from exploiting workers with all the knowledge he had on economics and politics, but he didn’t.

Most of the XX century changes that allowed many benefits to the working class were initially pushed by Marx.

Thanks to him, many workers that were working non-stop losing their fingers and had nothing to eat while doing 12 to 14 hours (including kids), they could have 8 hours of work tops, vacation, increase their minimum wage, etc.

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My Current Ideal Spiritual World and Affairs, are the following:

Anyone will Achieve Salvation, sooner or later, in one place or time, in one way or another.

For those who are utterly evil, maybe their memories and previous personalities should be completely erased (after countless chances to serve the Whole) - but not their Essence; thus, they’ll have a clean(er) slate, however they will have to go from the lowest possible incarnation again - they will become grass, to feed everyone, the elements, to feed life, existing in a very passive and limiting condition, for Eons, then Evolving.

Thus Evil will serve a purpose, whether they like it or not.