Is killing spiders and insects bad karma?

I murder them :policewoman: :police_car:

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At least someone else is. Well, I’ll have company in the next few lives, since I think that many people kill spiders and many other beings/creatures who crawl …

You should be, we all should be. :joy:

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How about if I do hooponopono or something (like asking for forgiveness and wishing them good, is this a cheat code?) for their souls and for their evolution?
Will that help them (AND ME)?

As a Concept I UNDERSTAND that ALL LIFE is A Manifestation of The Highest Reality/Being, but from our limited perspective, we have fears and we do harm to each other, one way or another …

That doesn’t sound very sincere if you intend to do something bad and then ask for forgiveness

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I do that because I’m sorry, I don’t want to kill them, but they are slippery and I’m not that great at catching them, so what should I do, let them live inside my house (sometimes I see these scary spiders, should I let them be as well) (?)

@SorcerySupreme Are you Absolutely Sure that that is the karma for anyone who kills spiders, insects?
How about if I refuse such a karma or thing? Am I not a Sovereign Soul?
Is there no negotiation going on with the Higher Self?
What if I want to be handicapped (no disrespect to anyone) or something (instead of being an insect or a spider)?

And I thought Spirituality is all about going beyond our condition; wasn’t Buddha or some Saint a murderer in some previous life/incarnation before reaching enlightenment or sainthood?
Isn’t a “bad person” capable of reaching higher states or enlightenment?
Do we have to live and suffer for many lifetimes/a long time before reaching something better?

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Nope

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There is an old Buddhist story that keeps coming back to my mind, that of Asanga and the sick dog. Can you imagine picking worms from an open wound with your own mouth… ? I can’t. I’ve killed my share of bugs and spiders - not because I hate them or wish them harm but because they scare me and I can’t stand them in my living spaces.

And yet.

And yet.

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I think you should what you can to avoid killing them, however the intent with which you do counts too, it’s different to kill a mosquito to avoid getting bitten from killing an insect you could have sent away from your home.

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Man I hate cockroaches so if I put an anti-cockroach spray on my floor I didn’t kill them, the spray did. Problem solved. Thank you Lord!

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I hate to see anything in pain or gone before what I think might be its time (although who am I to say) so if I can I put it outside. Or in the case of non-crazy, run of the mill spiders, I let them live here because they perform a service

Sometimes though…some of those little guys like ants really step on my toes so I have to take action

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Damn good advice here.

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Your afterlife processing varies from person to person, but in your “life review” I think you are likely to experience things from the perspective of all beings with which you interacted.

Your life will not be lesser by assuming this is so.

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And when you truly ascend and realize you’re just God playing Grand Theft Auto with himself…

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Well, it’s a great game, life that is (and GTA, of course)! :smiley:
Are we playing on hard difficulty now? I think so …

yes, according to the teachings of tibetan NKT or other mahayana buddhisms. Of course it is bad karma as those are sentient beings. generating bad karma is extremely easy. we all do it. so don’t feel bad about it. i do kill mosquitoes myself sometimes.

but try to change and place them ouside.

if you want to begin practicing kadampa or similar traditions, do vajrasatva purifications to change your conduct little by little.

it’s probably not a lot of bad karma as insects seem not as sensitive and conscious as mammals, but yes it is unskillful conduct to kill them specially out of unfounded fear.

and yes, you are not beyond redemption. no one is. you are a valuable being tha can reach enlightenment.

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I fear that If I try to catch them they might bite me or something, plus, if I am not successful in getting them outside (assuming I can catch them in the first place), they will remain in the house, perhaps near me or worse… :fearful:

WHEN I WILL HAVE SOME MONEY, somewhere in the future, I’LL BUY SOMETHING FOR INSECTS, SPIDERS, BUGS, ETC., TO CATCH THEM, LIKE VACUUM OR SOMETHING (?) (I saw that such devices exist, idk if vacuum, saw it on a commercial once) AND I’LL SPARE THEM.

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Ever since I started capturing and releasing them outside they stopped bothering me as well. My roommate’s room was full of mosquitoes last summer while there were almost none in mine…

I mean you can just put them in a glass jar or something and let them outside lol

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It’s not that they are not important, I view all creatures as having value, I abhore how many eat meat (well, I used to eat meat too, years ago, I’m a vegetarian for the past few years, I think, maybe 5 years), how much suffering those innocents go through, but how much evil we still do to each other, I mean WARS, Famines, Genocides, Hate, Murder, etc., we as a species have a LONG way to go, before reaching GOD/DIVINE CONSCIOUSNESS/LEVEL/ENLIGHTENMENT, YET, at least we are not accepting utmost violence as normal, the vast majority of people are no longer cannibals, well, we are a little bit better than how we used to be…

Humanity progreses slowly, but surely, at least overall.

In time, I will reach Higher States of Mind/Consciousness/Love as well.

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Or something like this
https://www.voelkner.de/products/5649567/Gardigo-Spider-Catcher-66976-Lebendfalle-L-x-B-x-H-645-x-73-x-135mm-Schwarz-Gruen-1St..html?ref=43&offer=0&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=fpla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyMDAjo_S_AIVBiIYCh2dQAMFEAQYASABEgIr1_D_BwE

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Hey, yeah, I didn’t mean to guilt you nor do I like that. I just go by trying to inflict as little suffering as possible. And in that sense you’re already playing a great part by being a vegetarian, more importantly radiating a lovely energy as well, and there’s no such thing as perfect living down here in this mess lol

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