Jesus wasn't enlightened

idk what you mean by “evil”, trauma makes people do tons of weird stuff. but that ain’t evil. there isn’t “true evil”, just confused people. more confused or less confused.

there’s no moral punishment for doing “malice” or “evil”. that’s just man-made story tales to scare people and keep them like sheeps and “good” little fellas.

these kind of religious narratives always seek to create perpetrators and victims and the spiritual world isn’t about man-made symbolic moral conflicts.

and being a complete sheep feeds on the same kind of karmic imbalance than being a complete full blown psycho. so, both spectrums will get kicked in the head by karma while being alive or after death.

your energy imprint is what matters, and for sure, you can have the energy of a full blown psycho without killing anyone, and killing someone ain’t gonna change your karma or create more repercutions because of that.

santa muerte, qemethiel, cernobog, samael, all of the angels of death you can work with them while being alive.

they’re great for ego death or cord cutting.

Another way to add here.

Why I said golden gap. To these days and thousand years ahead. We still have the light. Jyoyith.

But after the golden gap is over. This is where ghora kali playing it’s hardest conditions. There’s no light in that ghora kali… No one know the truth but blindness of spirituality.

No spiritual at all when that ghora kali comes. We no need to worry about any of these for now. But focus on the prarabdha karma. See how we can work on it through jyothi. Then do the upayas. If in certain dasha time youll be able to achieve certain level of sadhana. You will.

The interesting part is. Anyone really…who soley focus on upaya or any spiritual means.

It’s always active, either through dasha or a transit, but mainly dasha.

But what happens when that dasha is over? Will you just leave the spiritual life? It depends. If the factor of it has no sustainment at all, aspecting your moksha bhavas or any spirituality by any means, it can completely cut you off from that side of life. Though awareness can keep you anchored to it, the circumstances of the external world will be difficult to navigate.

So what this means? It just means. Even spirituality itself is part of the process within prarabdha karma playing part…

im sure thats counting ac+dc…the illuminati are already packing to Mars and building thousands of ai controlled choppers and killing machines. they been pinning us down for decades. its the only thing that makes sense…iv summoned angels effortlessly, its crazy how responsive they are… imagine if everyone woke and raised vibrations together, everyone would be a believer, instead all music, politics, movies everything focused on summoning mayhem, entropy. imagine if just few hundreds called Divine Mother, she responds to everyone, everyone has one, if they knew she was real and waiting our call, we would be competing with Artarians with which planet got higher vibration…but unfortunately the elite are all sickos and greedy…look epstein files

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Everyone has their own pace to discover something. Its never too late. Its just matter of their divine timing

Indeed once you start any spiritual path your natal chart no longer helps provided your sadhana is very genuine with full faith in whoever you have chosen as a deity. I have personally seen it in my life nothing any astrologer said came out to be true one could argue astrologers are bad but the same astrologers are good for others so it is debatable and time wasting like most debates are.

One thing I have realised which may help some people you can spend years and decades to figure out whether there is a free will or everything is fated which philosophers have been doing for centuries but in doing that you will miss how to live life. People really think all of us will live forever that is why we maintain enough security and hoard things forgetting death is always around.

We just need to get smart and identify which are bigger challenges that repeatedly happen till we do something about them and which are just small scratches.

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And that is the core of doing spirituality Focus on the Kriyamana Karma, the free will to choose over Prarabdha Karma. Whatever is destined in this life, focus on free will despite the hardships or good times.

But people doing Upayas and such tantric practices in this modern age mostly desire outcomes of material things. And it is not wrong to want that. Let’s be real. No one wants to be poor.

The same goes for certain people doing Upayas to reach for something to smooth out the lack of certain things.

The core essence is always about devotion.

While surrender to god to liberating the suffering.

Things about any tools of prediction, though, on the other hand, like astrology.

It’s like seeing a map of all kinds of weather, be it sunshine or rain. When it rains, we bring an umbrella; when it shines, we just enjoy it.

But if you follow the philosophy of karma itself, one can’t really abandon the pillars of those I mentioned and focus solely on free will without acknowledging the foundation of other karmas. They exist. If a certain astrologer says and makes wrong mistakes, it happens. And it does happen. Under certain conditions of the weather, you call it destiny again.

It’s just not meant to be told. Perhaps the part of prarabdha karma itself doesn’t want you to know it, just like how some people are unable to find their accurate time of birth while others do. It happens for a reason. And this reason called prarabdha karman

This also bring to my old discussion about why prediction fails. Though i don’t mention astrology in my video here but its worth noting from the perspective of karma.

rudolf steiner addresses free will in a great way. nothing like what you’d expect from standard philosophical debate. here is an extract from the linked lecture if u wanna read. are u familiar with steiner?

Summary

Twenty-five years ago in my Philosophy of Spiritual Activity I attempted to make these two boundaries or limits my starting point, and purely on the basis of observation sought to establish what lives in the human soul, what really happens in the human soul when an action is performed where a person feels he is employing his freedom.

At that time I did this in such a way as to remain within purely philosophical considerations. Today I will try to offer a solution, as far as is humanly possible, on the basis of the findings of the science of spirit. In order to do this, however, it is necessary to approach these two points that I have just characterized as the border points of genuine self-knowledge, in a way that only the science of spirit can approach them.

One of the characteristic things about the science of spirit is that we do not allow the soul to investigate in its everyday condition. Our ordinary consciousness does this, as does science too, but in the science of spirit we evolve the soul beyond the point it attains if simply left to its own natural development. We ourselves must take the soul in hand, and it has to develop into something different. For it has to be able to see and perceive something different from what can be perceived with the ordinary means of acquiring knowledge. It has, if I may indicate this right at the outset, to be able to grasp with its spiritual eye the spirit that lives in man.

Most people maintain that this is a subject for belief only, but this is really simply because they do not wish to make any effort to consider such things as the human spirit, that they say this. The actual method and practice of the scientist of spirit proves that it is not just a belief that is acquired, but knowledge as certain in its sphere as is scientific knowledge in the natural sphere. We must, of course, be quite clear that by undertaking certain exercises and functions, the soul has to attain a quite different constitution from the one it has in normal life and ordinary science. It has to acquire a different kind of perception. In my writings, where more detailed information about these matters can be found, I have called the first stage that the soul reaches in investigating the spiritual world, imaginative knowledge.

How do we acquire this imaginative knowledge? Mainly by applying our thinking, our minds in a different direction from the one usual in everyday life. To take the example already cited, we have to try to introduce something into our thinking that is as remote as possible from the barrel organ. For the barrel organ introduced a kind of unknown quantity into the soul life, which was not even noticeable. Precisely the opposite must be the case if we wish to train our souls, to prepare ourselves for spiritual investigation. Nothing must enter our soul unless the soul itself admits it. This can only be done if we succeed—naturally only for the purposes of our investigations—in eliminating the past we have lived through, and the future we look forward to, and in concentrating in our souls solely on the present, as far as possible in one comprehensible mental image, a mental image that we have put together ourselves so that we know what is in it. And we have to do this again and again.

What is characteristic about this is that such activity should be completely removed from any kind of dream life in the soul. No one can become a scientist of spirit in the right way who is fond of giving himself over to self-indulgence and dreaming. No one who willingly indulges in a false mystical way, in something indefinite, can ever become a scientist of spirit. For such indulgence does not lead to the science of spirit. We can only take up the science of spirit if we experience something in our souls that we ourselves have put there with every conceivable effort of our own consciousness, and then constantly concentrate upon it and devote ourselves to it. In my writings I have called this meditating, and by this I mean meditating in the proper sense that we are directed toward our own consciousness, our own soul activity.

There is a further point I would like to mention. Not only must this meditating be far removed from any kind of dream state or false mysticism, it must also be removed from everything that produces hypnotic and suggestive conditions in the soul. Staring at shining objects, for example, by means of which hypnotists produce a hypnotic state is the very opposite of the first condition of a spiritually scientific training. All the various kinds of exercises that dull the consciousness are the very opposite of spiritually scientific training.

What we are concerned with is placing ideas, feelings and will impulses, of which we have a clear picture, into the center of our soul life with full consciousness, so that we are as clear as we are when using the full powers of our thinking. In fact, this absolutely clear thinking, carried out with our full consciousness, must be our example and pattern. We have to be careful not to stop at this, however, for then we achieve nothing, but this should be a pattern for all the activity the soul undertakes in exercises directed toward finding the path into the spiritual world.

It may perhaps take years of trying, but the passing years stand us in good stead, for the fact that we get older as we do the exercises is a great help in enabling something to happen. Constant attempts to concentrate our soul life upon our self-directed mental images by means of meditation, results in the development of our imaginative life. This means that we no longer need only to use pictures and mental images that we ourselves put together, but that such pictures, such imaginations, themselves appear as objective entities in the soul, and in fact, we can live in such imaginations. It is only when we have prepared ourselves in the way I have described, that these imaginations no longer arise out of the body, but out of the life of the soul.

But we also become conscious of gradually following an inner necessity. In living in this world of pictures—for it is the imaginative world that we first experience—we gradually cease to believe that we can arrange the pictures as we please, but that we are bound to certain laws, just as we are bound to laws in the outer world.

You can set a chair upon the table; it stays there. If you put it somewhere in the air, it falls down. If in looking at the outer world you wish to remain within reality, you find yourself bound to certain laws. As you develop your soul in the right way you will gradually see that you are similarly bound to laws in your inner world that are just as objective as, for instance, the law that a chair can only stand on something that supports it. On the one hand, we feel that with our consciousness we are part of the world in which the pictures exist; on the other hand, we feel bound to the underlying order which may be compared to the kind of order that exists in the physical world.

In two particular respects we have to be able to differentiate carefully what we experience. We should not confuse the latter with what people experience under the influence of ordinary visions, for these ordinary visions come from the body. They are not induced by ourselves, and do not take the place in the soul. Imaginations, on the other hand, are processes which take place in the soul. Whoever has not learned to differentiate between imaginations and visions can, it is true, become a visionary who allows all sorts of vague clouds to arise out of his body, but he can never become a scientist of spirit. We are simply not consciously present when visions arise, and this is a most important point. It is in fact just as important and actual as the cautionary rules we adopt when pursuing chemical, physical and physiological methods.

I would like to cite a critic of the spiritual scientific approach who has a high opinion of his own book wisdom. I have no wish to speak about all the rubbish he has said concerning my science of spirit, but I shall quote something from a book of this so-called learned gentleman. This book has attracted considerable notice and has already gone into a second edition after quite a short time. The author relates what happens to him sometimes when lecturing. For a time he speaks in such a way that he thinks over everything he says, but then sometimes he has observed that he does not think any longer, or at least thinks about something else, but yet he continues to speak.

Well, first I promise never to impose myself upon you by ambling on when I have ceased to think! On the other hand, it must be emphasized that whoever believes it is possible to approach the mysteries of the soul when acting this way, is from the start much too stupid to be able to grasp anything about the fundamentals of what the true science of spirit is. He is also much too stupid to make any remotely correct statements about the science of spirit. With this one statement he proves how far he is from what is meant here. For the most essential thing is that the science of spirit must emphasize that consciousness must be present wherever the spiritual is sought. All visions and every kind of undirected dreaming, even if it is impressive enough to captivate a public without thinking as to the means by which it is captivated,—all this is quite out of the question, not only when we speak, but also in connection with what goes on inside us in our souls, if we are on the path to the spirit indicated by the science of spirit.

The other thing that has to be differentiated from what I have called imagination, is our ordinary fantasy. Our higher imaginative life is not simply an act of our fantasy any more than it is a visionary or undirected mystical experience. With our fantasy, it is true, the pictures have a certain law and order, but they are arranged inwardly in quite a free way.—With our fantasy we are not so bound to the objective course of the pictures as we are in our ordinary perception or in the life of imagination where we know that the chair cannot stand in the air.

If, therefore, in our inner training of the soul we reach the point of having before us what we cannot have before us in our ordinary consciousness, in our ordinary everyday life, we do not simply experience a world of pictures that arises out of the soul, the origin of which the soul itself has experienced bit by bit. We now experience a new world, a world of pictures, a world that otherwise we do not have around us. This is the first thing that anyone has to struggle for who wishes to penetrate into the real spiritual world.

But now something specially important happens on this path toward spiritual investigation. The visionary is satisfied with this world of pictures. He says that that is what he has sought. The dreamer is also satisfied.—But the person who achieves imaginative knowledge is by no means satisfied with this world of pictures. He regards it only as a means for proceeding further. For the experience of this world of pictures is accompanied by a strengthening of our means of experience. We have to find quite different inner forces in our soul life if we want to hold on to these pictures, or be really consciously present when they come into existence. These forces are quite different from those we must use when ordinary pictures arise, when speaking in the ordinary way, or when writing books. This strengthening of our consciousness is the important factor, for by these means the soul becomes stronger than it is otherwise in life, or needs to be. There is nothing to be gained by this world of pictures other than a strengthening of our soul life. We should say to ourselves: This whole world of pictures is only a preparation for the spiritual world.

Then, having experienced ourselves—and I say “experienced ourselves” intentionally—we realize that there is not really any objective world in these pictures, but that we have the means to penetrate into this objective world. We have, as it were, in this world of pictures a spiritual eye and a spiritual ear, but they are not yet transparent. Imagine that you have eyes in your eye sockets, but that they are not made of a transparent glasslike substance, but are darkened and opaque. This is the nature of this world of pictures within us, which is more likely to cut us off from the spiritual world, but which can be strengthened by taking into our souls the first available means to penetrate into the spiritual world. We have to acquire a further power. And this is acquired by feeling the power that we experience in these pictures. In experiencing them to the full, we acquire a second power. You can find more detailed information in my books.

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Agree completely my point is from my experience which I think many have the same mindset, if I know if my will and my effort make a difference to my life significantly only then I will expend all my energy else I will just make little to no effort and in some cases some don’t make any effort.

If you want to play the game of maya you have free will but if you want to just observe all your life then there is no free will, if we get deep into Yoga and Vedanta we will know we don’t do any work, the forces of nature and all the processes in the body do all the work, by that account you have no free will at all.

The problem comes when people get things they think it is because of their free will and effort and if they don’t what they want they blame it is fate, frustration and pain show up when such incomplete understanding or confused understanding takes hold of our minds. It is a cultural thing some cultures celebrate winners and look down up on losers like they are mistake in this creation while some have compassion for losers too.

Thanks, anyone who starts to look into occult will encounter him sooner or later.

This science of spirit sounds like a high level focus on krimiyan Karma (free will),that already explain lol but it misses the adrasta (the unseen). You can concentrate on a ‘mental image’ all you want, but like i said, you cannot abandon the pillars of karma

Right but back to the old of my topic i said. Even free will itself is illusion of the mana😅 i wont go in detail here as i already explain a lot above

Either way. What’s live now as your current avatar. Whatever works on you now. Keep doing it. In the end of the day. Its all journey. That take us to higher ground of realization.

Yes which Michio Kaku said long back but scientists don’t like their cherished unproven beliefs about science be even ridiculed so science largely doesn’t accept his idea whatever the consensus says that is science.

He may address the other forms of karma you refer too, i wouldnt know. His body of work is enormous

Well i would stick to the teaching of veda.

​Sanatana Dharma vs. New Ideas. The Veda is the Eternal Law btw. It doesn’t require us to “invent” a new way of thinking. it provides the Jyoti (Light) that has always existed to guide us from the path

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Yes but
He suggests that one must concentrate solely on the present to move beyond the soul’s natural (fated) development, which, in this case, is against the nature of prarabdha karma. It misses the point of prarabdha karma. Prarabdha karma refers to the current life where the fruits of your past karmas have ripened and are ready to manifest. This is how karmas work, by the way. They are stored, called sanchit. Then, when it’s time for them to be delivered, you are born into this life with the active deliverance of that past karma already manifesting until you die, thereby exhausting the karma. Prarabdha karma again. Cannot be undone

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Okay. i wouldnt know how to respond to that other than to say Steiner also integrates christian spirituality into his spiritual science, which may offer a resolution to prarandha karma. His is a synthesis of some eastern spirituality with, i think, an emphasis on western spirituality

Well its not complicated to see prarabdha Karma really. Dont even need to go deeper other than seeing our family as examples. Our parents. Ourselves. Family we born with. Thats a fixed Karma and thats what prarabdha Karma means. Yes it can go deeper than just parents or our biological body. Even our future child itself part of prarabdha karma

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I meant some occult authors who made name for themselves quoted him in their books and his name gets thrown out a lot even now. Science i.e Western science and religion started together then some scientists came and then separated them out, their ego just got bigger and bigger that science should tell humans everything about life and universe, they continue to live in their delusions, a lot of blame goes to the church too.