Sorry if I sound stupid, but can I ask why being horny or having sexual urges is considered bad or undesirable? Lol
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It’s not bad to be hungry, but it’s bad if you’re hungry all the time and you overeat and become obese.
My answer is it’s not bad per se, it’s Bad if it’s an urge overcoming you and controls you to a degree. Porn addiction is bad.
There is another layer to it which has to do with internal alchemy when you’re a man… if you search for nofap/semen retention on the forum, you’ll find a lot of conversation about it
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It’s not undesirable. But yeah, like with all other things, too much isn’t good.
Like if I feel an urge that can’t be satisfied right away, I’d feel frustrated. Or if a certain kind of porn doesn’t get me off, I’d search for the next and the next. (My Mars is in Scorpio so I tend to have obsessive, all-consuming tendecies to certain things.)
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being horny or having sexual urges is desirable WHEN you have someone to share it with!
like @MonkeyOwl says, being hungry can be a good thing WHEN you have food.
if i’m hungry and have no food, if that hunger controls me i could resort to stealing.
same with sexuality, if you’re horny with nothing to connect with, you will do whatever and whoever it takes to give you relief.
using ojas allows us to transform that energy. it’s still within our system, but now it’s a productive member of our body’s cell society.
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I understand. It’s true, too much of anything can be bad :) But I perceive the whole nofap thing to be exactly the same. Isn’t that TOO MUCH of represión as well? Haha For me they key lays in balance, isn’t it? So yeah, maybe those kind of practices (Ojas, Shen…) can help with that balance. Thanks!
Btw, making love to yourself by yourself, the person you should love the most, should not be perceived as something bad imo.
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yes agreed!
this is true, but i used this same belief as a means to relieve myself and it’s not what i’m looking for.
if you can use this same belief and come out of it feeling better, than yes go for it!
the reason why most of us say to be with someone and have (soulful) sex instead of porn and solo is because (for me) we grow instead of regress or plateau.
again, i can say whatever i want to say, but experiment and go with your inner guidance/higher self/whatever.
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Update: A week later and my skin is still looking good. My mind still feels light after I play. I’ve noticed that sometimes after eating neem+tumeric+black pepper+haritaki+wintermelon i’ll meditate to this track and feel pleasurable sensations coursing through my body. Also this definitely helps reign in sexual urges as mentioned by many of the people before me :)
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How lucky are we to have access to this field!
Listening to this just once makes me feel incredibly happy, calm, content and unstoppable.
I LOVE it! And as other people have posted, really hope listening to this doesn’t make me gain weight haha!
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Everytime I listen to it, I have a good feeling that it’s going to change a lot of people’s lives. Including my own.
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Drink the nectar of bliss and tranquility… listening to it
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Floating above clouds. No sense of time. Everything is perfect… everything is divine. nothing to accomplish… this moment here… perfect as it is. Bliss… just bliss…
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Nope, does not seem healthy to interrupt natural processes of the body?
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The person who can control his or her sexual energy. Is a powerful and dangerous person
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That is not being intentionally done or even a goal. It is just one of the possible side effects of a very high level of alchemical accomplishment.
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Why only temporarily? For what purpose? If for contraception, then look elsewhere. Shifting the natural cycles have serious health effects, and are not for one to pause and restart for the sake of convenience.
But if you wish to know on an academic basis:
Slaying the Red Dragon
The rather unsubtly named practice of ‘slaying the red dragon’ refers to a commonly practised internal method that aims to end the menstrual cycle. Women who have been through this practice literally end menstruation, meaning that they do not shed any blood at all each month. The logic behind this is that since women lose some of their essence each month through menstruation, stopping it will store this essence and so prolong their life. It will also help to establish a strong foundation for advanced alchemical practices. Although this logic is sound, it does come with various risks, not least being that menstruation has various cleansing benefits, as discussed above. As a practice, it is actually fairly simple, and with a few months of regular breath control and reversal of several internal flows, your menstrual cycle quickly ends. We have met many women who have practised this method, as it is quite common in the West as well as in China. A great number of these women actually had numerous health issues that resulted from this practice, and for this reason we strongly advise against it.
Slaying the red dragon is a practice that was originally reserved for those living full-time as nuns away from the rest of society. They would be practising under the strict guidance of an experienced teacher who was there to monitor every part of their practice. In addition to this, they did not have the responsibilities that many ‘lay’ practitioners of the Daoist arts do. Engaging in such a practice is much safer if you do not have the daily concerns of career, family, household and so on. Sexual activity was cut out for these women as well, since intercourse had a pulling effect upon the essence, which could disrupt the practice. If, however, you are one of the rare women who has undertaken this practice and been safe with it, then well done – there are always exceptions to the rule.
The major danger of this practice is to do with the Bao’s function of storing Blood within the body. If there is a break in the natural cycle of developing and then shedding menstrual Blood, then there is a risk of stagnation occurring within the Blood itself. This will then stagnate the body’s internal energy, which leads to various physical symptoms. The Shen is also rooted into the Blood, and so stagnation here will run the risk of disturbing a practitioner emotionally.
For the majority of female practitioners of the Daoist arts, we highly recommend regulating the menstrual cycle through healthy living, calming the mind and engaging in practices such as moon gazing.
– Daoist Neigong for Women by Roni Edlund and Damo Mitchell
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Haha i havent checked what it says but i already see myself calling my monthly days that 
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The slaying of Red Dragon is a bit of a controversial thing. Some has posited that it proposes an alternative model of Neidan (internal achemy), but there seems to be a lot of blowback on it as well as social and historical contexts also need to be considered.
An old tale from the thirteenth-century talks of a young girl who ran away from home to escape marriage, and was hidden by an old Daoist who “slew her Red Dragon”, and thus eliminated the chance of someone wanting to marry her.
However, various experts correlate the slaying of the Red Dragon with subduing the White Tiger. The White Tiger subdual referred to as the stage where “jing is not lost anymore”, does not mean the man cannot ejaculate, but means that the movement of Prana is not downward but upward (Urdhvaretas) which is what eventually results in Ojas -> Tejas -> Brahmachaitanya (the highest expression of Divine Energy-less energy). Similarly, for women, Dr. Jerry Alan Johnson explains, that Red Dragon for the most part means the stage of alchemy where the menstrual cycle no longer results in loss of jing, but the movement of energy is upward towards the middle dantien (as opposed to usual downward motion and loss with menstrual fluid).
This probably is also more controversial because, while most agree that seminal ejaculation does result in varying degrees of loss of Jing for most humans, there is no consensus on whether menstrual blood results in any kind of energy loss in women. In fact, during the menstrual cycle, in Tantra, we adore women as the highest expressions of the Goddess, who births, who nourishes, and exudes and grows energy during the three days and those that can tap into that energy can experience the Divine Feminine.
One of my Daoist teachers, who was pushing 100 something, told us once (translated by his great grand daughter): “people indulge in seminal ejaculation, out of will, because they find it pleasurable. Internal turbulance wants you to do that more and more as an avenue to seek bliss. When the inside is quiet, there is no heat of being perturbed, one begins to experience so much bliss, that this kind of ejaculatory-bliss becomes trivial. However, menses are not a matter of choice for women, so they are not the same as loss of seminal fluid, and it actually enriches women”.
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/glares at @Maoshan_Wanderer for holding this in his back pocket for the past several months during no fap thread/
Let me highlight the important parts from my POV as I feel like I kinda sorta said this a few times in different ways . 
seek bliss. When the inside is quiet, there is no heat of being perturbed, one begins to experience so much bliss, that this kind of ejaculatory-bliss becomes trivial.
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Absolutely true. Despite cramps (which already healed physically through Advance healing and emotionally through healing the wounds with my mom-dad) those are my best days and the days i feel majestic and creative extra sensual etc 
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