Souls Video

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#24

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I didn’t know about 4chan. Thanks for the info. Even if I highly doubt that I will agree with them (precisely because of the reasons that you’ve mentioned), I will try to see what is going on in their mindset.

Maybe it’s not necessary, I know. Maybe I’m over-complicating everything, I know it as well. Maybe I just have to chill and let go.

But it’s just that I try to suspend my own belief system whenever I can, in order to get a bigger picture of anything.

“Some”? Well, anybody (including me) who would fall too easily into tendencies like shutting down immediately subjects prone to adversity. This is for example what I tried to do with the edited version of a “how to get laid” post. I was glad to see that the poster has revised his message and provided further info about his request. I came to better empathize with him, instead of just thinking: “pffff nah, that’s out of the question that I take some time to have a deeper look. I have my own conviction and basta, period. Anybody else is just wrong or delusional”.

I see what you mean about the blowbacks. Sexuality is a highly sensitive (though natural) subject for all of us. So we may have to think twice before interfering, even if our intentions are good. And once again, I’m not a choir child myself after all, so, I get it.

My own is ego is still prone to get offended more often than I wish it would. So I can understand that this may happen for anybody else as well.

About being soulless: again, this is not about being inferior or totally deprived from a soul. I mean, if you’ve read Josh’s previous posts, you’ve surely also read some of mines and thus know my general approach. Even if I’m not a choir child, can you imagine me labeling anyone as “soulless”? Me??

It’s not about that. Let me give just simple examples from my own geography/culture (in order not to hurt anybody from another culture): when some more or less “spiritual” practices (no need to name them) are being conducted with a person, it happens that this person gets a paler shade of skin. This is about energy depletion, etc. you know what I mean.

And this is when some people interpret it as a “loss of the soul” or as if the soul of that person had quit the body. Temporarily or not.

Or, you know about birthmarks and other over-pigmentation examples. Again, speaking at the moment only from my own culture’s perspective, these are sometimes interpreted as the signs of more mature souls. I don’t say superior; just more experienced, if you will.

No need for other examples (there are too many of them). So this was just my point when I saw the original post and tried to elaborate about it, trying to grasp the thing. But again, never with the intention to hurt anybody or insinuate that anybody on any realm would be soulless.

I hope I was clear enough this time.

I’m glad anyway at the end of such discussions. Like Sammy wrote, this allows us to go beyond an echo chamber mentality and put on our way potential new milestones.

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#25

Like I said, refreshing. :smiley: I will say that multicultural thinking is very hard for lots of people, especially those that have never left home. There’s lots and lots of programming that has to be overcome to even make the considerations that you’re discussing. Good on you for trying.

OMG, sooo hot, amirite? Silly desert, why can’t you be the beach?!?

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#26

I think that YOU are the one who is refreshing.

I was very young at that time and so, hardly remember, but I still have some memory of that heat, yes! :sweat_smile:

Maybe I should just stop and not give anymore personal info, but… I don’t like “ignoring” people when they try to communicate with me… unless there’s nothing left to do.

We can then take it to pm another day, if you want, since all this may sound like a pointless self-defense and a waste of time for everybody out here. And also, as Atreides had written in one of his posts; sometimes, trying to crystal-clarify your point leads to nothing more than a self-energy drainage. Much pain, but no gain.

I think that this is also my professional deformation. Even if my goal or even competency is not about “psychoanalyzing” everybody, I have/had to deal with all kinds of requests/opinions which seem(ed) totally marginal at first glance. This is what I get paid for.

I have/had to work with “outlaws” or people coming from various cultural, etc. horizons I’ve sometimes never even heard about before. I even have a colleague and beloved friend who had to provide therapy sessions to the murderer of her own cousin, because no other therapist was available in the institution at that time. She has eventually succeeded and no need to say how proud of her I am. An amazing lady for sure.

(… and she’s one of the reasons why I can get offended with over-generalizing speeches about women… or sometimes youngsters or any other people - but once again, definitely NOT those deciding out of nowhere if we are born with or without a soul according to our color, I mean wt.!!! -

That is, I’m not always overreacting only for myself. We can call it useless solidarity or identification, maybe. Who knows… In any case, a problem that I have to solve sooner or later.)

So yes, I deal with some people having almost mind-blowing visions of the world… And sometimes, I even have to gather them together inside the same therapy group. I let you imagine the fiesta sceneries…

The request of each of them can be summarized as follows:

“See me, hear me, feel me… me and my story… before judging”.

You can be sure that if I only heard their most obvious/on-the-surface statements, my first “reflex” with some of them would have easily been: “Shut the f…k up, just go and spread your poisonous stupidity elsewhere, will you!!!” and slam the door on their face. I would have been tempted to do that all the more, given that some of them can be sometimes very challenging or insulting, even towards me. Like “I don’t give a dime about your cheap diplomas and your let-me-cure-you-all-idiots attitude, Brony!”

… or sometimes worse.

But tell me, what would I get if I slammed the door?.. Plus, my job has an ethics code, I can’t “select” people, etc. It’s not easy everyday, but… That’s the “game”. It’s not a job with butterflies and sunshine all the time. And no any other job is, most likely.

… and yes, sometimes I fail or feel completely drained and cry out of rage for hours after the sessions.

A bunch of things that maybe explains why I’m not an easygoing gentle lady, even in this forum. What can I say… Not posting anymore would be an option, as I already said without any irony.

But so, yes, instead of sending those guys to waltz elsewhere, I always try to see what they are trying to communicate behind the curtain. Until they’ve said it all.

And at the end, most of the time, I find out that all is only due to a lack of love and/or a lack of opportunity to discover anything beyond their own daily experience, framework, etc.

This has nothing to do with playing the superhero, taking sides or acknowledging every single thing they believe or do. NO. This is rather the only way to offer, afterwards, any constructive feedback and even counter-argumentation (or sometimes “let it be” just as it is), while providing support to any person who’s trying to do some self-work.

And also the only way imo, in the long term and in many contexts other than my job, to bypass individual differences (though I will always keep enjoying some of those differences, because I’m not interested in seeing the doppelgängers of myself all over the place…) and reach any kind of “unity” or at least integration with the Universe or whatever we may call it.

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#27

I just want to add one thing, because I think it’s important

Every. single. person. on. earth. feels this way.
There is no monopoly on this feeling for those that hurt or have had a bad upbringing.

In fact, those of higher consciousness actually feel MORE deeply and therefore HURT more deeply and are LESS understood than others…ask anyone who just took the Energy Awareness class.

But you know where people LISTEN and UNDERSTAND and don’t judge?
the next planes…

Literally, the first “half” of time spent on the next level up is ALL about hearing and understanding and having compassion for everyone’s unique experiences and coming together under Unity.

The goal of this plane, as nearly every spiritual teaching has said, is to “graduate” out of it so one can actually enjoy all the goodness of those other planes where all these things like “super-saiyan” powers and “understanding and unity” are quite the norm and appreciated.

Sorry, I didn’t make these “rules” … you’ll have to talk to our local Star about that :wink:

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How to measure our polarity / karma / service to self vs others ratio?
#28

:wink:

Not gonna lie, your post was a bit tough for me to digest, but this is definitely my favorite part. Completely agree - “bad behavior” is generally caused by either ignorance or the expression of hurt, and compassion is the best way to encourage positive change.

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