US Presidential Election

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Are we going to ignore this? :point_down:

"US Senator (John McCain) and the US Assistant Secretary of State (Victoria Nuland) repeatedly attended political protests in another country. Nuland is also the wife of a prominent warmongering Neocon, Robert Kagan.

Victoria Nuland also admitted during a speech in 2014 that the US had spent $5 BILLION since the 1990s to spread “democracy” in Ukraine.

Many people roll their eyes when they hear “George Soros” and think of conspiracy theories. But Soros’ own group—IRF or International Renaissance Foundation—admits in its 2015 annual report that it has spent more than $180 MILLION in Ukraine since 1990.

NED or National Endowment of Democracy is a US taxpayer-funded group that specializes in … ahem … regime change. Its chief, Carl Gershman, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed in 2013 (just before the protests) that “Ukraine is the biggest prize.”

Michael McFaul—US Ambassador to Russia, 2012–2014—wrote an op-ed in WaPo in 2004 where he asked, “Did Americans meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine?” Then he answered it, “Yes.”

Why did McFaul write the article? Because in 2004, Soros and other NGOs fomented the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Basically, the election was won by a pro-Russia guy. So people protested and demanded a new election. Then, a month later, the pro-US guy won the new election with 52% of the votes. Democracy, America-style.

BTW, that guy—Yanukovych—who lost the election in 2004 … ran again in 2010 and won fair and square. ‘That’s why we had Euromaidan’.

If one goes back in history, one will see that the CIA worked with Neo-Nazis(!!) and ultra-nationalists in Ukraine for decades, starting right after World War II. Declassified CIA documents describe Project Aerodynamic in the 1950s and ’60s that recruited Ukrainian nationalists—including Nazis and war criminals such as Mykola Lebed who was accused of killing tens of thousands of Poles and Jews—to work against the USSR. So, now hopefully one can clearly see the patterns and that Ukraine is really of special importance to the U.S. But why? Well, has anyone heard of Brzezinski, the geopolitical expert who influenced US foreign policy for 40 years? He came up with the idea of Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the USSR, created Al Qaeda, and then repeated the same strategy of using Islamic terrorists in the Balkans, the Caucasus, Libya and Syria. Brzezinski explained in his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard that “Ukraine is a geopolitical pivot. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” He also said that Ukraine must be brought into NATO by 2010."

Frontier, Vol 54

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That is also true, but this is not a single cause. While I do not have time to disassemble each factor, each thing happening, each dirty political game, I simply wanted to point to a more nuanced way of looking to politics.

I can assure you I’m not a fan of US’ way of geopolitics. But I will not be cheering for Russia, China, or Iran either.

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If foreign powers use soft and hard power in your influence area (basically your courtyard), you got to ask yourself a few questions on the efficiency of your state services.

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Are you going to ignore the one who is wrong? We can clearly see the external provocation of conflict here. And yet, you ignore all of that and justify this with efficiency of a country that is not even involved at this point.

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This doesn’t make any sense to me. Why do people ignore the truth when it’s presented to them? Is it too confronting to accept it as it really is? Even, I don’t like how Russia dealt with this situation either. But it doesn’t change the fact that there is an involvement of CIA and senators since 1949. The Project Aerodynamic, clearly shows their involvement with Ukraine in 1953.

CIA, Memorandum for the Chief: 28 August 1953.
The Project Aerodynamic: The Fl purpose of Project Aerodynamic is to exploit the anti-Soviet
Ukrainian resistance groups OJHVR, UFA, ZPUHVR and the (UN/B) in Western Europe for intelligence purposes.

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I’m freaking out too. Even worried, actually. And I mean… we have a VERY VERY VERY VERY crappy government here… but the shit Trump says and his demeanor and attitude… even before getting into politics… it’s like… are you seriously choosing this guy as a leader? I don’t get it. It really makes me question if morphic fields are actually working on them. Yep… I say it bluntly.

And let him come and tell us, especially NOW that climate change is a hoax… maybe someone should rub his face in the mud of Valencia, specifically. No, no… in fact, we can also rub his face all over Catalonia. Or ask him if the deaths from these past two weeks are also a hoax, according to him. And I know you’re going to say that the DANA (cold drop) has nothing to do with climate change… But the FREQUENCY and the SEVERITY absolutely do. PLUS let someone come and tell me there’s no climate change when… here in Santiago, in the middle of November, it used to be freezing cold ALWAYS… until years ago… We had to turn on the heating, get out the heavy blankets, and wear puffer jackets… and yesterday, I went out in a tank top because of how warm it was. IN A FUCKING TANK TOP.

And I won’t even talk about the damn wall he wanted to build… because no.

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why is he higher vibration

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Trump is no better. He may even be worse. Narcassism is a trait which emerges from having never confronted major parts of the shadow. if trump is anything, he is self serving. He is a renowned sex offender and has used the poor and working class for his own advantage on many occasions.

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Bashar/Darryl Anka is a fraud in my opinion. The guy is channeling his own ego or some lower astral entities. Absolutely fake and his “predictions” mean nothing and are based on nothing.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but doesn’t make it right/wrong. He’s been channelling over 40yrs. Inside of this simulation folks call reality, he’s actually had more hits of actual timelines of events than misses…and 9/11 event did happen in this timeline

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Trump is no better. He may even be worse. Narcassism is a trait which emerges from having never confronted major parts of the shadow. if trump is anything, he is self serving. He is a renowned sex offender and has used the poor and working class for his own advantage on many occasions.

Besides being a sexual deviant, he also has vibes of an energetic predator …he has to feed from having adulation around him.
He has already said he loathes and detests poor and working class people, and ironically that base will be the most impacted when they lose their social security and healthcare…

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Here me out, guys. I do have mixed opinion on Trump:

His economic policies are good. But, it is designed for the business class and the ruling elites. Nothing he stated is for the average American household.

Less tax and deficit, increases more debt. He is betting on Tariff to fix the debt crisis. But it didn’t work in his previous campaign and the result was National debt increased by $7.8 Trillion. Now, he will do another tax cut again this time. So, brace for it. It is not for the average Joe.

If Tariff didn’t work, then what? The only option left is to close the debt to increase the production of goods and reduce the deficit. And this is exactly where you guys have to notice whether he will “Walk the talk”. To increase the production, the administration has to build new facilities either by borrowing money from other countries, corporations, individuals or Foreign direct investments to fund all the new projects and increase the employment rate.

Less tax means, more money in circulation, which also increases the spending power. This increases the inflation. In return, Federal reserve will increase the interest rates. We can notice this in his previous campaign too. Fed increased the interest rates from 0.2% to almost 2.5% and then it went back down to zero in Biden’s campaign, until recently.

To be honest, building the wall at the southern border is unnecessary. It is not like European countries. America is multiethnic with diverse cultures. The country is literally built on illegal immigration and refugees seeking a better place to thrive. I mean, we have a lot of stories of immigrants who don’t speak a word of English become successful, building million-dollar corporations. Anyway, aside from the odd ones, most of the illegal immigrants work at shitty jobs and are very low paid. I mean, someone had to do that work and it’s clearly not American citizens.
Just check and deport the ones with Criminal record & drug affiliation.

He is very good with words. He knows exactly what the majority of the population wants to hear. Will he act upon it? I don’t know. We have to wait.

On the good side, he does have a better foreign Diplomacy. Better than Biden, Obama and Bush. Stable world order and peace.

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It is only bad if it is unchecked. That is why I stated that it is necessary to deport the ones with Criminal record & drug affiliation. It is necessary to increase security. But it is not necessary to turn down the good ones.

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One of my Russian colleagues came over for a business trip couple months ago and we were all very curious about the situation there (She is in Moscow). I asked her tons of questions and she said they are doing very well there actually. All the big brand names aren’t there anymore, but with a new label. So Coca Cola isnt found there anymore, but a bottle that looks and tastes 100% like Coca Cola is still on the shelves, albeit with a new name and label :slight_smile:

So yeah, they figured out ways to help themselves.

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Is ‘undocumented immigrant workers’ a better word?

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Also, they are integrated within the society for decades, over 10M of them. Low paid undocumented immigrant workers. It is not a recent phenomenon. They are part of the economy for decades in the U.S. And I don’t think they will become citizens.

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Yes, I do agree with your points. They are a part of U.S workforce for decades. Deporting undocumented labors will not drastically affect the Economy on a large scale. But they seem to take on jobs that an average citizen would not consider in the first place. I do think they are productive on a small scale and solve issues like shortage of unskilled labor.

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:sweat_smile: :rofl:

haha
nice one

Not necessarily. Since there is no third option, I think many would have elected a third option like “No vote”

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Yes, you are right. Maybe mass deportation of undocumented labors are fine, as long as they are replaced with locals or EB-3 unskilled labor.

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Ok, then will rephrase the question that only one of those two or world-wide communist dictatorship.

Anyways, it still means that Forum would overwhelmingly vote for Trump.

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lol so much Trump Derangement Syndrome here. I guess we should’ve just voted for Kamala? Is that the argument? :joy:

Those who claim he doesn’t keep his promises conveniently forget his entire first term was entirely defensive. A lot has changed since then.

I cannot wait til he actually does keep his promises and proves the haters wrong. Watch as America enters a Golden Age that’s never been seen before.

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