Is ‘undocumented immigrant workers’ a better word?
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The terminology is irrelevant, they still did not go through the legal process to become a citizen, thus it’s still illegal.
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Also, they are integrated within the society for decades, over 10M of them. Low paid undocumented immigrant workers. It is not a recent phenomenon. They are part of the economy for decades in the U.S. And I don’t think they will become citizens.
I understand that, not everyone that came here illegally is a “bad person.”
My point is that if you operate under the framework that everyone coming illegally is just coming here for a better life, it’s way too idealistic, and it undercuts the people of this country that actually went through the process of becoming a citizen.
Violent criminals will, and are currently, taking advantage of the immigration system to come here. That’s the unfortunate reality of having weak immigration policies, it will attract a lot of “bad” people because they understand they can get away with it and take advantage of the system. It also becomes a burden on the taxpayers here, and American workers as well. Of course they will take low paying jobs. The employers that hire illegal immigrants will do it because they can pay them less, and get away with it.
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Yes, I do agree with your points. They are a part of U.S workforce for decades. Deporting undocumented labors will not drastically affect the Economy on a large scale. But they seem to take on jobs that an average citizen would not consider in the first place. I do think they are productive on a small scale and solve issues like shortage of unskilled labor.
If I came here illegally, I would take a job at much lower wage, people that hire illegal immigrants take advantage of that.
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haha
nice one
Not necessarily. Since there is no third option, I think many would have elected a third option like “No vote”
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Yes, you are right. Maybe mass deportation of undocumented labors are fine, as long as they are replaced with locals or EB-3 unskilled labor.
Ok, then will rephrase the question that only one of those two or world-wide communist dictatorship.
Anyways, it still means that Forum would overwhelmingly vote for Trump.
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lol so much Trump Derangement Syndrome here. I guess we should’ve just voted for Kamala? Is that the argument? 
Those who claim he doesn’t keep his promises conveniently forget his entire first term was entirely defensive. A lot has changed since then.
I cannot wait til he actually does keep his promises and proves the haters wrong. Watch as America enters a Golden Age that’s never been seen before.
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The choice for me between the two candidates is very simple:
Harris → very high chance of World War 3 (she would continue to poke the Russian nuclear bear and if you poke the bear to much, he will preemptively attack, as we have seen with Ukraine. Putin was not waiting for Zelensky to first acquire nuclear weapons, he attacked Ukraine preemptively to prevent this. So it is clear what will happen and which major NATO countries will be nuclearly striked first preemptively if things escalate…)
Trump → significantly reduced chance of World War 3
All other things are minor local problems compared to this.
The moment it was clear that Trump has won, Earth literally shifted to a completely different timeline. Me and several other of my friends were able to feel this shift in energy in humanity.
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Curious.
I felt a kind of sigh of relief.
I thought I was imagining it…
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I was not sure myself, therefore I proactively asked several energy sensitive people and they confirmed of having felt the same thing.
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The moment it was clear that Trump has won, Earth literally shifted to a completely different timeline.
I have long time friends that are die-hard Trump supporters, who felt the opposite, and they had previously been aligned on timelines, collaborative remote viewing sessions etc but collectively coming now from a ‘WTF did we do?’. Energetically people are all over the place with ego based projections, so will be an interesting wait and see…
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Oh yea the shift was extremely noticeable. 
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He seemed so sincere tho :c
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Do you have some extra information? I’d love to know. I’ve read much different things, which make more sense to me.
Namely that there will be a Great Solar Flash (and many minor ones before), and after there will be open contact. But we will be 4th density by then.
We still haven’t had a great solar flash (one of the preceding ones) nor any cataclysm…and there are plenty of predictions for that (and programming by the elites to do that).
Humanity is far from being in a cooperating state and ready for ascension…idk man…You can convince me for sure, I’m not settled on this. Just that it makes sense it would take sme hundred years still.
There is always the possibility of weather weapons. So climate change could be a hoax if it is them causing it since the begining.