A rabbit hole of thought: matter, quantum physics, zero point energy, absolute zero, crystals and morphic fields

Follow my stream of research, which begun when thinking about how the spiritual community assign so much power to crystals as these healing rocks with this mystical, magical energy. It all sounds woo-ey from this perspective. But it has me thinking about why thinkers like Deepak Chopra use quantum physics in the context of spirituality.

The lowest energy state in all of nature is considered absolute zero. It is not possible to achieve completely since quantum effects still occur. In a vacuum at absolute zero, the only remaining energy is the zero point field. This is the inherent energy that resides within all particles.

This is where i discovered the concept of ‘virtual particles’.

The electromagnetic field is a fundamental field that exists throughout space, even in a vacuum. The presence of this field doesn’t contradict the idea of a vacuum because in quantum mechanics, fields are everywhere—even in regions devoid of particles. These fields can still fluctuate, giving rise to temporary excitations or virtual particles (like virtual photons), but no real, observable photons are necessarily present.

So, the electromagnetic field pervades all of reality. It exists as a field outside of matter.

If quantum fields are fundamental, what separates it from matter? i asked Claude.


So matter arises from each of these quantum fields. Each element contains protons and neutrons (quark field), electrons (electron field) and the electromagnetic field.

I am beginning to realise how incredibly broad this discussion is and i need to sleep. lol

Matter is an emergent state from the interactions between many quantum fields. ‘particles’ are a materialist reductionist concept that are ‘representations’ of nature, not natures true state. Somehow these mysterious fields form into highly organized and seemingly static forms.

How can humans reflect upon this reality? is consciousness a fundamental ‘field’, or something more than that?

the way i see it, and the way big thinkers like sheldrake and Mcgilchrist see it, consciousness is fundamental to nature. i wouldn’t say it is comparable to the quantum fields, though they definetely interact and may be interdependent. i would say consciousness is a kind of organising aspect.

Looping alll the way back around to crystals, Does their structure grant them some strange attribute that connects it to the ‘zero point energy field’?

ugh, i’m tired. i’ll come back to this

i am back.

It seems that the crystalline pattern is present across the universe at many different scales, in ice, in crystals and minerals, in proteins, etc. When minerals, ice and crystals are scaled to larger sizes, they keep the crystal pattern.


This is an example of a morphic field and the fractal-like nature of crystal patterns in nature. Why is this relevant? Perhaps the highly ordered nature of matter in this configuration has unique properties that others don’t. These properties may involve a higher basal energy i.e zero point vibrations, (or something, idk)

This has led me to this paper. I, a psuedo-intellectual, cannot confirm the validity of this paper and cannot make big claims or assumptions from it so i’ll simply quote what i think is important https://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.4064

We study the magnitude of zero-point vibration in one-component crystals. For the crystals whose constituent atoms share the same bonding geometry, we prove the existence of a characteristic temperature, T0, at which the magnitude of zero-point vibrations equals to that of the excited vibrations.

Generally, it is a common sense that quantum phenomena such as zero-point vibration are significant mainly in physical systems operating at cryogenic temperatures near the absolute zero. More recently, however, one optical experiment has reported room-temperature quantum entanglement in the atomic vibrations of two macroscopically separated diamond crystals, in which the atomic vibration at ground state, i.e., the zero-point vibration plays a key role [6].

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Note that virtual here might be close to “dark matter”, it isn’t necessarily some dark substance, but something that seems to exist, yet we are very uncertain what it even may be, in the dark. So it’s called dark matter then. Sometimes there’s enlightenment, new discovery and it removes darkness.

Quantum simply implies non-determinism, many processes in the world are hard to model or explain otherwise, it doesn’t mean that the process is random completely, we might understand probability density function, different properties or it may even only appear to us as random due how we are limited in ways to comprehend it.

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