An Indexed Collection of Posts by _OM

[Saan]

Wow, thank you so much for all your great work !

[Escapingeinstellung]

@uial is quintessentially the kind bespectacled Librarian who will point you to your book & accompany you to the Bookshelf while giving you a tidbit about the the author & will have warm nice hands that shake yours in a greeting.

[_OM]

What’s a “Librarian”??

[uial]

Lol
Had the same thought.
Apparently, a mythical, bespectacled species of kindly folk…

[Escapingeinstellung]

Kind & Librarian are oxymorons?

[uial]

Conceptual thinking development tips, and sending concepts to your subconscious

@_OM

Anywho…

IPF
Animal Telepathy
Conceptual Realizations.

You’ll be beaming concepts to your subconscious in no time.

and MOST importantly,
you’ll never ever have to listen to some bs subliminal ever again.

@_OM

@Quad

but if it is done properly

:) Was creating subs way before there was a youtube…i understand…
and i also know, unless it’s something truly odd ball…
I just beam it into subconcious in 3 days or use a Sap Med field.
Done…

None of this 30-60 day nonsense.

[Sazza]

@uial Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to compile these valuable insights for us all. And not just here but in so many other posts. You are a true gem and it is so helpful and much appreciated.

[uial]

Thank you for the kind words, @Sazza.
It is always a pleasure and honour to be of service to everyone where I can, and to be a small part of this community we are all building together.

[antied77]

@uial What is DL and SLR mentioned in this thread? Between the Advanced Healing and using this plasma and bioactive bach, with torsion would…do you think one is better than the other for healing the physical body? Would they complement each other? Or would I need to invest in the Plasma Protocol to regenerate cartilage? I get so overwhelmed with everything I don’t know what to focus on. Your experience and input is appreciated.

[SilverZuzu]

Thank you OM for writing all these posts!

[uial]

Great question! SLR is the Subconscious Limits Removal field.

I’ve updated the post to reflect that for anyone who might have the same question.

DW is Dreamweaver, who creates the fields.

@antied77

Between the Advanced Healing and using this plasma and bioactive bach, with torsion would…do you think one is better than the other for healing the physical body? Would they complement each other? Or would I need to invest in the Plasma Protocol to regenerate cartilage?

They would certainly complement each other and can be added to a playlist together.

For regeneration, as I believe you’ve mentioned you’ve got the Gumroad audio, one can try the new, updated version of Advanced Healing:

(free if you’ve already got the Gumroad audio)

New Release - Advanced Healing +Voltage Repair

aka Advanced Healin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo This is another piece of buried treasure that deserves it’s own post. I also wanted to add a note below regarding working with the field, in hopes it’ll help some people. From the description: "Added to this (2nd audio) is a creation based on the work of Dr Tennant, with his research into voltages of cells and health. It uses the advanced healing field to add a charge of -50 millivolts to damaged cells, to push them to repair and reproduce new health…

The Plasma Protocol is certainly a wonderful set of fields but one can also try the Plasma Light field first, which can do much for healing, especially when combined with a few other fields targeted to help with your issue.

Also, there is this post by @_OM explaining how one might use the Plasma Light field, which I’ve just added to the post above.

@swordsdance

Will something similar (albeit less powerful) end up on patreon in the future, or is this definitely gumroad only?

@_OM

Poor persons version of all these fields is to play regular plasma light field first before the “normal” version…in this case the non plasma version of teeth field.

[antied77]

@uial Thank you so much! you are always so helpful and I truly appreciate it. I should have known about that for DW. Is Dream the same person as the Captain/Captain Nemo?

[lol]

@antied77

Is Dream the same person as the Captain/Captain Nemo?

Yes

[uial]

Recommended reading and movies (updated)

@_OM

@El_Capitan_Nemo

hmm… how about dune?

Read/rewatch Dune and rewatch original Star Wars trilogy as sensationalized histories of this galaxy…cause they kinda are. Why the resonate with people so much.

It’s more like “A long, long time ago, in a galaxy that you currently reside in…”

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@shawn492

. Anyone have advice?

Mentioned in another thread.
Fiction:

• Stranger in a Stranger Land.
• Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah
• Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Non-fiction;

• Books by David R. Hawkins
• Children of the Law of One: The Lost Teaching of Atlantis
• The Prophet

Movies:

• Dune
• Star Wars (original trilogy IV-VI)
• Little Buddha
• The Matrix Trilogy (1 and 2 are direct metaphors for enlightement and the stage of enlightenment afterwards. 3 is a reversed metaphor because the end goal isn’t reuniting with an A.I. source but the real source. Just remember that for the last one)
• The Last Airbender (animated series. Movie is “ok”)
  A ton more that can posted if needed

@_OM

Oh most importantly…

Space Odyssey 2001!

Was going to post this in the one of the “Ego” threads.

HAL is a metaphor for the ego. Once the Crew gets control back from the “out of control” HAL, they literally show a very obvious, on the nose, Enlightenment sequence.

It can be long and tedious for some. So if you want… Watch the first 10 mins (the Ape/Monolith sequence is pointing to something very important) and then skip to the last hour. lol

@_OM

@Nabs101

Anyone have the same experience or have advice?

Wanted to add. A wonderful fictional book to read about the journey of an enlightened soul is “Stranger in a Strange Land”.
Once you realize the main character’s “Martian” heritage is a metaphor for Enlightenment. It’s wonderfully instructive on deciding “what to do now?”

Also recommended is “Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah”

@_OM

Phenomenon

Phenomenon - Trailer - YouTube

@_OM

Glad to see people have seen it.
Always feel like this movie gets massively not seen by “spiritual” seekers.

It’s basically a story of Enlightenment.

@_OM

@ActionGuy

I guess there is no point in using “pretty please” now

Check out the Torsion Field thread
Get some more ideas over there and feel free to click on the links and dive into the rabbit hole.
Yes, Dan Winter is hard to understand but simply hearing the ideas grows your consciousness.
Said that allll the way back here…

@_OM

Add Dan Winter to the list of “spiritual information” to listen to.
Even if you don’t understand what he’s talking about, simply introducing the concepts to your mind, expands it.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Dan is certainly one of the few people I listen to as well!

• Podcast

@_OM

So I watched your 3 min video… in 3 mins…

Not sure you could have read a 50+ page doctorate level thesis paper on a rarely known topic in the time you took to post.

But again, I respond with sincerity.

Your video claims “they” can’t explain gravity.

Here’s a video explaining it perfectly well (for those who are interested and willing to take the time and effort to understand)

Explaining How Gravity Works - Golden Ratio Fractality | Dan Winter - YouTube

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Add Dan Winter to the list of “spiritual information” to listen to.
Even if you don’t understand what he’s talking about, simply introducing the concepts to your mind, expands it.

@_OM

Yeah. I need to rewatch this in it’s entirety.
I know if this show had come out when I was younger, this would have been my “Matrix”
(but Matrix was my Matrix )
ie. that life-changing show that called my inner spirit with it’s Truth.

@Quad

I love Matrix too! (obviously.) I’m still not sure what the agents really refer to. Also not sure if the architect really is bad as they made him seem to be.

Btw, I think you’d really like Star Wars too. It’s super deep as well.

@_OM

@Quad

agents

The Ego…in various forms
1 = Individual
2 = mostly collective Ego
3 = Collective Ego at higher levels of Enlightenment.
I’d have to watch the movie with someone in person to explain clearly.

@Quad

Also not sure if the architect really is bad as they made him seem to be

Well, it’s complicated…especially, since they went to a negative interpretation starting half-way thru the 2nd movie… (see my notes in the movies thread about that)
Why it feels “off”…

@_OM

Indeed.

RS Theory | Conscious Hugs

when you got this down, then we can talk.

http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/The-Nature-of-3-Dimensional-Time-Phoenix-III-Daniel.pdf

@_OM

Ok, yes, you brought me back everything I asked for but did you learn the importance of teamwork, perseverance, and commitment and believing in one’s self as that was the TRUE purpose of your quests??

(see, how I’m trying to avoid this question)

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Ok let’s start with the whole “story” being misinformation upon misinformation upon lies upon truth upon lies. lol

As since that misinformation and lies and truth just so happens to constitute every major religion and the “creation” of humanity, it’s bound to piss off nearly everyone in some way and I’m not terribly interested in dealing with that projection.

Enki = Lucifer
Enlil = Yahweh
Yahweh = \ = Jehovah (which is important later on)

And they are all fakers, pretending to be “God” when they were nothing more than 4th-5th density aliens.

So, in the old-timey books, Yahweh is the “good” guy and Lucifer is the “bad” guy…
But every historian knows, history is written by the “winners” and not necessarily “true” in the slightest.

Bah…i’ll just post another daniel pdf about this and explain where he’s not entirely correct instead… ha!

Problem solved!
/wipes sweat from brow/
/pauses/

“Wait a second! This is a common green dragon’s eye! I need a red dragon’s eye!” ;)

http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/The-Colonization-of-Tiamat-V-Phoenix-III-Daniel.pdf

@_OM

Some of you from Dreamagick might remember this,
and I’d like to hope this was partly responsible for the creation of the jing,chi, shen fields, maybe? possibly?

But here’s a scientific explanation of jing, chi, and shen.

Related note - in the olden days, in the mystery schools, majick was called “science-magic” as it was understood that everything had a scientific basis, and “magic” was simply, yet-to-be-understood science.

So, on that note, let’s turn some majick into science! (I feel like Mr. Wizard…the scientist…see how that works ;) )

http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Homo-Sapiens-Ethicus-Phoenix-III-Daniel-Revised-2015-04-05.pdf

P.S. As someone “guessed” in PM. No, I’m not “daniel” but I did study with him.

@_OM

@Bronyraur

would you think that what the Whirling Dervishes do is a kind of Star exercise put in motion

Yes, it is a form. And they are utilizing some time/space (as opposed to space/time as described by daniel in previously posted pdf) by whirling to create quite the magical effect!

@_OM

Recommended for those who understand the recommendation…

Good overall spiritual movie about the nature of “astral planes” one goes to “after death”
What Dreams May Come (1998) Trailer 2 - YouTube

[uial]

On astrology, astrological effects fields, one’s astrological chart and karma

@_OM

@anon48416969

for example I had the same situations happening to me over and over again and when I started to wear it they didnt happen anymore, t

Holy , i mean wow, Wow!

Of course, Nullify planetary alignments would act as a “karmic” nullifier as well. as astrological signs are just one’s “karmic influences” written in the stars.

Just wow, Wow! Thanks for this post.

@_OM

Sure astrology is just one past/current “karma” written in the stars.
The whole “goal” for “most” here on earth (whether they know it or not) is to move beyond being affected by outside influences and being their own sovereign self with free will.

Until tho… astrological influences/karma are going to affect them.

@anon17734191

@Kiki

what else can one do to mitigate/neutralize Or even completely get rid of bad luck cycles?

Nullify Negative Planetary and Astrological Effects

Or this

Nullify Negative Astrological Effects

@_OM

@Kiki (long time btw)

Owl nailed it.
I had been sleeping on this audio a long time.
Even played it while playing poker but guess I wasn’t picking up on what it was fully doing.

Yep. This field is the unluckiness, negative karma nullifier…
And might go up there as necessary as BPiL, Happy Joy fields for “every day, every person” fields

@Kiki

After posting that question I went on listening to nullify Astrological effects filed, but I didn’t realize there is a tag For it, I didn’t buy any tags just yet. That could be interesting even life changing i suppose. I’m not very Astrologically inclined but after I started to listen to Dream I realized that it does have an effect on us and it pisses me off, that planets have such affect on us I don’t want to conform to that.

@_OM

@Kiki

I don’t want to conform to that.

hehe, that’s called “enlightenment”
aka escape from the wheel of karma as astrological signs are just our “karma” written in the stars.

@HanumanTrust

a fairly significant imbalance given the large number of planets that accumulates in a single point, my question would be if listening to the fields of annul and amplify the planetary effects would get cancel this negative effect.

@_OM

Temporarily, yes.
Also see The Navagraha Homam for longer results.

@_OM

Also an important note about all zodiac issues.
They are simply a reflection of your past tendencies.
The most important thing one can do is to outgrow and transcend those karmic patterns thru conscious spiritual growth.

I not too long ago, reread an extensive astrological reading that I had done when I was 21. At the time, it fit me to a tee.
Now, it doesn’t describe me at all.
I’ve outgrown those past issues.
And if I were to die today and be reborn I would have a new astrological chart reflecting those changes.

@Forumuser

It’s kinda like our karma is written in our natal charts, right?
Past karma of course since future is always under the question mark.

@_OM

Yes.
Why I was nicknaming the fields, the karmic nullifiers.

Not technically correct tho.
More like karmic reducers

@anon25711007

I’m still quite confused. If you listen to The Navagraha Homam do you still need to listen to nullify negative Planetary?

@Forumuser

no,
Navagraha Homam have both astrology fields included (amplify and nullify)

@_OM

@anon25711007

you shouldn’t loop it too long and why is that?

You simply don’t need to.
The field is replicating an entire ceremony that’s meant to have effects for weeks or more.

@_OM

@KingMerc

So our birth chart is more based off where we’ve been, but not exactly where we’re going…(as long as we keep growing spiritually)

Yes, exactly.
The saying goes, “History doesn’t actually repeat itself but it rhymes”,
Meaning most people (or cultures) aren’t actually growing fast enough to avoid their past karma repeating.
Hence Conceptual Realizations and other fields that also help…
along with the planetary karmic ‘reducers’ that mainly work on the effects, not the “causes”

[uial]

On destiny and free will

@_OM

@lol

They did not Choose to be that way, they just are. They behave like this for factors outside of their control, factors that they had no choice in making. This is why i don’t think free will exists. People are products of circumstances they had no control over.

All of this ignores the very basic premise that energy is neither created nor destroyed aka, in spiritual terms, “reincarnation”
and
that although 95-98% of all thoughts,feelings,emotions,behavior are decided “subconsciously” ie (fields outside one’s conscious awarness), that still leaves 2-5% of “control” within one’s conscious decision-making aka free will.

@_OM

@angelblessings

so you are saying we have freewill of 2-5%

@lol

your life is basically run by your subconscious,

I’m saying ancient spiritual traditions have been saying for ages to make your conscious and subconscious “One” and make your subconscious and superconscious “One”
a=b
b=c
a=c

One could call spiritual growth the journey to increase one’s “basic” 2-5% conscious free will to it’s maximum of 100% free will.

@_OM

@Starlight

The choices that I’m making are not really choices then. That’s a depressing thought

If only there was some technique you could use the integrate the seeming polarities of Destiny vs Free Will.

@Starlight

hmm…What would you recommend to read?

Pretty sure there’s a “OM” reading list around here somewhere… thought even in this thread but I might be mistaken.

@_OM

Sure astrology is just one past/current “karma” written in the stars.
The whole “goal” for “most” here on earth (whether they know it or not) is to move beyond being affected by outside influences and being their own sovereign self with free will.

Until tho… astrological influences/karma are going to affect them.

@_OM

@anon44251429

honestly (pardon me) I don’t give a *** about our these soul guiders who made for us these soul contracts so I ask for advice is there any tool for this to make
it sure

I’m going to repost what I wrote to someone else via PM about whether certain events in life are predetermined, as “soul contracts” are just the same aspect of that

Well yes alot of your early life and/or major events is “predetermined” pre-incarnation but it’s pre-determined by YOU in a higher state, in coordination with your Higher Self (which is also you )

For some, the Higher Self does all the planning, so to them it would look like everything was pre-determined without their “consent”

One doesn’t get true “free will” until one gets Enlightened. As by then, you and your higher self are “one” consciously …lol so back to step A.

Remember, your higher self is just your collective “you” in the future, enlightened, looking back upon all your lives.

(minor editing for clarity)

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@anon44251429

is there any tool from Sapien or from any creators for burning, breaking, tearing up or at least for reconstructing/changing soul contract? Any Ideas??

So to answer your question directly…
Etheric cord cutter and the Soul Restoration series would deal with outside karmic influences aka “curses”,
the rest is actually what you agreed to with yourself before you got here.
You just don’t remember.

@_OM

@Starlight

If I’ve transcended my Ego then would that mean I won’t need to be reborn into any of the 31 planes then…?

Whew! Somebody’s Conceptual Realizations has kicked already! Nice.

Yes that’s exactly correct!
See this post here tho…

@_OM

Ahhh.
Then you are “sovereign” (believe it was you that was using this word)
You have true free will.
You are free to move about the Universe as you please…
Start your own universe if you want…
Restart the "game’ and play again…
Return to “Source” and just “chill” for a few billion years…
Whatever it is you choose to do.

**(Note if you choose to play some other version of the “game” you do have to follow the rules of that version of the game… but you also know that you are playing the game, and not “trapped” …ie assuming the game is “real” and there’s no escape.)

So again, you have TRUE free will to play or not play this game or other games.
Also remember, these other planes of existence are exponentially more peaceful and loving if you DO decide you would still like to keep playing.

@psynergy

requesting a morphic field for a service to others mindset as described by The Law of One Service to Others

i feel like there are already morphic fields in place so anyone is free to recommend me them!

@_OM

That’s kinda a major free will choice… literally THE choice for this plane…

as always Mass Med.
Love Graviton
etc are good fields for expanding that STO

[uial]

Dark Night of the Soul

@_OM

@Roi

I am asking this because I have already seen two people saying this while they had the suicidal thought, “they wanted to leave the physical plane”. And this monk is the third one who had the same experience, who happened to say the same phrase.

It’s called the “Dark Night of the Soul” and one can have several on one’s spiritual path.
In everyday language, many call it “hitting rock bottom”.

The ego has such a stranglehold on most people that they don’t start or fully surrender to their “Higher Self” even for a little bit, until they’ve reached a point where they have nowhere else to go because the Ego has run out of “answers.”

Btw - it’s totally avoidable and not “needed” at all, but for many, it’s absolutely needed and unavoidable…lol if that makes sense.

@_OM

@Roi

Is that the point where the benevolent or the higher beings or the universal guardians start to guide us in our right path?

It’s the point where one starts actually listening to them instead of ignoring them. They were/are always there.

@Roi

You either mean the higher Self? or the Beings or guardians?

@_OM

Yes.

[uial]

On transcending duality

@_OM

Hello Nabs and all,

Some of you old timers will recognize this name aka -OM- aka Candle (Hi Sammy and Dreamy)

Firstly, pretty much everything Sammy has posted about higher states of consciousness is accurate and/or has been my experiences IMO.

As one of the original users of Dale’s Higher Vibration Field which became the Ascension Field which became Sapien’s Version of the Ascension field, I can address most of these issues.

[spoiler]And gonna take the tiniest little credit for the subconscious limits dissolver and the OM field which seems to have transformed into the VoC field. Maybe Dreamy will tell the stories one day.[/spoiler]

@Nabs101

How do I fit in with society?

You don’t. Get used to it.

@Nabs101

All I am told is to have faith … for how long?

Til you die. True Enlightenment (capital E) involves a death of some type. In most cases the “ego death” is accompanied by a literal physical death experience, if only for a few seconds.
Then you get to decide (from a soul level, not conscious Ego level) if you want to come back and “help” or move on to new lessons.
Either way, no “faith” is required at this point. YOU KNOW. Not you think you know, but KNOW.

@anon28389016

Monks who ascend and end up living like rocks on mountains may benefit the collective a little, but are ultimately useless.

Gonna have to disagree with this point and Sapien’s work and especially his Mass Love Meditation fields prove this point.
Paraphrasing a Ghandi quote,
one loving person nullifies the effects of millions of negative people.
David R. Hawkins, an enlightened being who has moved on, calibrated this exact ratio to be 1 “truly loving” human counterbalances 750,000 negative humans. SpiritualWiki - Tables

(Note: you will see a lot of “charts” or “tables” that are rip offs of his original work. Be wary of those that don’t come directly from the original source and have “additions” he did not speak of)

So yeah, those stories of enlightened monks living in caves were contributing greatly to humanity just by “existing” on this plane.
Let alone the astral work that most of them do that’s never talked about.

@Nabs101

Anyone have the same experience or have advice?

On that note, Hawkins has written extensively on the challenges of those rare higher levels of consciousness even beyond “basic” Enlightenment.
Instead of me writing long paragraphs like Sammyg (hi Sammy!), I would recommend his 2nd and 3rd books in his Power v Force trilogy. “Eye of the I” and “I”
They will help you navigate them from someone who’s been there done that.

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Ha, seen Dreamy posted while I was writing.

@Nabs101

I have been meditating to this audio a lot but stopped now and I think I need some feedback if you guys don’t mind.

I feel like I’ve been placed into my deepest unknown. I am starting to have challenges differentiating between dualities example can’t tell what’s good or bad (other than what society tells me of course) but I kid you not my pre-defined labelings of duality almost dissolved. This has penetrated my inner life so powerfully. I thought I was familiar with this experience of non-duality but I have never experienced it so permanent like this before in my life. I feel like I am moving between worlds, shifting and modifying my awareness. My reality changes from hour to hour; my rational mind has deserted me, leaving instinct and intuition as my guides. What’s even more unexpected is that I feel that all the constructs of our civilization have been stripped from my personality and I feel like a naked spirit. Yes in a way I feel more liberated than ever but when I bring my awareness back into my reality… I’m so lost.

This is kinda terrifying for me right now as I am not sure what I am supposed to do next. How do I fit in with society? My higher self is telling me I can’t go back to the way things were but also not comforting me and telling me what good things to expect. All I am told is to have faith … for how long?

Anyone have the same experience or have advice?

@SammyG? @El_Capitan_Nemo?

@El_Capitan_Nemo

what is helpful is a goal or point of focus. (to provide a means of stability)
What are you doing in life? what do you enjoy doing or rather what do you think you can enjoy doing in life that works within your current mind frame.
Like say you may want to excel in cooking and make delicious food for others.
Focus on those things for now.
We can guide, but there is a vast difference between reading something and then having a ‘realization’
You will only see the advice from the outside, but when you get the ‘realization’ itself you see and understand it completely.
But without a doubt it is a realized opportunity, one that would not have been possible before. Don’t be afraid.
To see things as they truly are means there is a protected expansion of consciousness.
You feel like a naked spirit, but more so it is a newly born child. You will learn to navigate and find new levels of homeostasis.
The unlearning is quite challenging but a good sign as well.

@_OM

Hello Nabs and all,

Some of you old timers will recognize this name aka -OM- aka Candle (Hi Sammy and Dreamy)

Firstly, pretty much everything Sammy has posted about higher states of consciousness is accurate and/or has been my experiences IMO.

As one of the original users of Dale’s Higher Vibration Field which became the Ascension Field which became Sapien’s Version of the Ascension field, I can address most of these issues.

[spoiler]And gonna take the tiniest little credit for the subconscious limits dissolver and the OM field which seems to have transformed into the VoC field. Maybe Dreamy will tell the stories one day.[/spoiler]

@Nabs101

How do I fit in with society?

You don’t. Get used to it.

@Nabs101

All I am told is to have faith … for how long?

Til you die. True Enlightenment (capital E) involves a death of some type. In most cases the “ego death” is accompanied by a literal physical death experience, if only for a few seconds.
Then you get to decide (from a soul level, not conscious Ego level) if you want to come back and “help” or move on to new lessons.
Either way, no “faith” is required at this point. YOU KNOW. Not you think you know, but KNOW.

@anon28389016

Monks who ascend and end up living like rocks on mountains may benefit the collective a little, but are ultimately useless.

Gonna have to disagree with this point and Sapien’s work and especially his Mass Love Meditation fields prove this point.
Paraphrasing a Ghandi quote,
one loving person nullifies the effects of millions of negative people.
David R. Hawkins, an enlightened being who has moved on, calibrated this exact ratio to be 1 “truly loving” human counterbalances 750,000 negative humans. SpiritualWiki - Tables

(Note: you will see a lot of “charts” or “tables” that are rip offs of his original work. Be wary of those that don’t come directly from the original source and have “additions” he did not speak of)

So yeah, those stories of enlightened monks living in caves were contributing greatly to humanity just by “existing” on this plane.
Let alone the astral work that most of them do that’s never talked about.

@Nabs101

Anyone have the same experience or have advice?

On that note, Hawkins has written extensively on the challenges of those rare higher levels of consciousness even beyond “basic” Enlightenment.
Instead of me writing long paragraphs like Sammyg (hi Sammy!), I would recommend his 2nd and 3rd books in his Power v Force trilogy. “Eye of the I” and “I”
They will help you navigate them from someone who’s been there done that.

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Ha, seen Dreamy posted while I was writing.

@_OM

@Nabs101

Anyone have the same experience or have advice?

Wanted to add. A wonderful fictional book to read about the journey of an enlightened soul is “Stranger in a Strange Land”.
Once you realize the main character’s “Martian” heritage is a metaphor for Enlightenment. It’s wonderfully instructive on deciding “what to do now?”

Also recommended is “Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah”

@_OM

@anon28389016

Open your eyes and see the faceless enemies of the earth, that is if you dare

I’ll address your post with thoughtfulness even tho I haven’t been afforded the same…

There are 2 schools of thought even among “Enlightened Beings”. Those who are true pacifist and feel “whatever lessons are supposed to be learned are supposed to learned” without interference.

And there are those who are peaceful until aggressed upon and then will use a form of Spiritual Aikido to use their opponents attacks against them.

I have wavered between both at times. Sapien can surely tell you that I’m not one to shy away from a fight.

That said, the more I “evolve” the more I move into the pacifist "complete non-interference’ group.
The reasons become apparent to those who have gotten to a certain level… namely the “karmic implications” of simply identifying as a “human being”

As far as “earthly” politics go… meh, the paper headlines read the same as they did a hundred years ago for the most part. Hence the “wheel of karma”

The only way OUT is to transcend the DUALITY of it all.

@anon28389016

More and more warrior starseeds keep incarnating, in the future they will show you how spiritual warfare is done properly.

Yes, beings of that consciousness level still see the need to “fight” evil. Not wrong or bad, just a lesson that gets learned and “moved beyond” at a certain point.
And they are already here in shockingly massive numbers at this point.

@_OM

I’ll address each of your “issues”’ thoroughly one time and then I’m out. Don’t expect a “return” rebuttal. This is for those reading along who probably need clarification.
(Cause believe or not, Sammy and Dreamy will tell you i was ALOT like you back in the day) ;)

@anon28389016

Those beings don’t want to be here and they hate the earth, they are sent here, to do a job that a certain other “class” of souls were supposed to do for the past 5700 years but they failed badly, because they chose to bitch out and serve like puppets and use “its gods will” or “im above it all cuz I transcend it” as an excuse

And what if you learned that the reason the NEW souls had to come here to earth was because the OLD souls screwed up by NOT following the non-interference rules, creating a whole bunch of entangled karmic consequences for trying to help “the most indians and chinese are being treated like cattle by their own governments”.

(Actually it was 99% of everyone back then regardless of nationalities/races that didn’t exist.)

Again, that karmic wheel that only gets transcended by basically choosing to NOT pick a side either way.

Some do that here on the physical planes.

Most aren’t able to do it until they reach higher “astral” planes (or lower ones depending on points of view)

@anon28389016

Lol at Ghandi, he was a mason piece of shit, a fake guru like most.

Consciousness calibration testing (see David Hawkins on how this is done) would disagree on his “guru” status, but that brings up an important point about what enlightenment “looks like”.

Enlightened beings aren’t “perfect”. They just KNOW they are “one” with the Universe.

They are often subject to the prejudices and failings of the current society - ie. see my earlier comments about “identifying as a human”.

@anon28389016

But yes, preach love and light and act enlightened while billions are suffering daily.

Who’s preaching love and light? Find my exact quote please…
Billions suffering upsets me too. It’s upsets ANY person with integrity. The question is HOW to best resolve it.

From a certain perspective, it’s “evil” inflicting suffering on the masses.

From another perspective, it’s the karma of those suffering from the suffering they’ve caused others in the past.

From another perspective, it’s people only learning to grow from suffering, which may or may not be caused not from the conditions but how they choose to perceive those conditions.

From another perspective, there is no suffering. It’s the Universe experiencing all the infinite multitudes of experiences because it was “bored”.

I could go on, I won’t.

@anon28389016

Open your eyes and see the faceless enemies of the earth, that is if you dare

The enemy isn’t faceless. It’s been looking back on each one of us in the mirror everyday.

On that note, how is triggering people “alleviating” the suffering of your fellow humans

@anon28389016

If you were a high ranking soul who transcended everything you wouldn’t be incarnated as a human on earth, unless you had a VERY specific mission.

True, and I already addressed that. Some move on, some stay. And how exactly would know what some enlightened beings “very specific mission” was unless you talked to them and they told you?

@anon28389016

You do know that there are many more dimensions of existence right ? And different realms and universes…?

And this is the one a certain percentage of souls chose to “play”/“learn”/“get trapped”/whatever on.

@anon28389016

If your soul wanted to experience human pain it could “create” that experience in their own realms.

Kind of hard to experience “human” pain if one isn’t on the human planes, wouldn’t you agree?

That’s like saying I can “experience” being a wizard in an RPG video game by playing it, instead of the full virtual reality simulation where I even forget that I’m playing a game to begin with.

@anon28389016

You aren’t here to suffer, and your soul needs no lesson , especially on a miniscule tiny planet like earth as a human, it is here to help.

As alluded to originally, many souls are here to help and the lessons they are here to learn is that “evil” is just another form of duality of the ONE NON-DUAL universe.

There ARE other ways of dealing with ‘evil’ outside of “fighting”. Do you know how?

And one of the reasons I RARELY talk about such things nowadays (and Sammy has also alluded to) is because of “words”.

Language is inherently dualistic. So, by using one word, I’m automatically excluding all the other possibilities of an infinite universe that is by definition interconnected as One.

As Shakespeare said, “A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.”
ie, the essence and being of a “rose” is it’s IS-ness.
Not the dualistic words used to name it or describe it.

This applies to everything especially states of consciousness that aren’t normally experienced by the great majority of humans at this time, and therefore nearly impossible to describe.

@anon28389016

But ofcourse you are better than them cuz you can transcend duality right ? ;D

“Better than”, “less than”? Hmm.

Better said as lessons that need to be “mastered” or “transcended” or “integrated”.

No one believes a 5th grader is “better than” a 1st grader.
It’s just different things that need to be “learned” before progressing to the next level.

In fact, many, MANY, enlightened beings become “fallen gurus” because they need to “go back” and master some lessons their soul feels they didn’t “master”

There seems to be almost always another duality that needs to be transcended. Again, this is learned from personal experience and the experience of the teachings of my personal Teachers.

Hawkins (again, i make reference to his books because they are virtually no modern day enlightened beings who talk about the states and stages of higher consciousness so extensively and in modern day language) talks about how, as Sammy and I have both experienced, you get to a point and there’s nothing “else”… except there is… at least as a
human being there is.
There’s seemingly always “another” duality to transcend even if it’s just seeing the Universe as complete Emptiness or complete Fullness/Potentiality.
(and then another one after that, and so on)

@anon28389016

You must of heard that this timeline is “everyones last incarnation” right …?

I’ve heard it. And I dont agree with it. It’s NOBODY’s LAST incarnation. As you said, there are infinite worlds, and infinite dimensions in just this ONE universe.
It may be many humans’ “last incarnation” on THIS earth.

For many of those aforementioned “starseeds” it may be the first of many incarnations on the new “ascended” Earth that will not support negative humans or possibly any humans.

@anon28389016

Most souls who have been active on earth are banished,

“Banished” is a strong word.
Moved to another world to “try again”? Seems more likely - as this process as happened countless times in the “many more dimensions of existence” and “different realms and universes” that you mentioned earlier.

@anon28389016

Anyway, the helpless christians that get their village sacked by barbarians screaming “it must be gods punishment” and the new age enlightene ones saying “we have to suffer cuz soul lessons” is the same thing.

Ok. And? Humanity has all kinds of idiotic reasonings for explaining basic cause and effect (karma) that isn’t apparent because the “cause and effect” is the entire potentiality of the known and unknown universe. What’s your point? (Rhetorically speaking)

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Ok, I’ve done my best to address most of your points in a logical and calm manner.
I’ve had my “confrontational” side get the better of me in the past, so I’ll pass it forward and hope one day you do the same

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Above all, Be well.

[uial]

On different paths (and non-duality continued)

@Quad

@_OM,

pick a side, pick a routine, stick with it

this resonates with me in a special way. Could you elaborate on how many sides there are? Are you referring to good old duality or do you think we can create our own unique side in the shades?

@_OM

@Quad

Could you elaborate on how many sides there are? Are you referring to good old duality or do you think we can create our own unique side in the shades?

2 sides…err. technically 3 but the third is the non-dual combo side

Every path is “unique” simply by definition of you being “unique” and at “this” time in “this” place.
That said, there’s literally only ONE of us here
That “One” is occupying all the things and all the times… so the “ONE” also means it’s also “unique” and “alone” ie “all-one”

In the meantime, the ALL-ONE-NESS needs potentiality…so from a strictly electromagnetic perspective, it needs a “positive” charge and a “negative” charge…like a battery to create energy and “power”/experience/growth.

Anything/anyone without enough “charge” is basically “useless” for generating energy …

(Note - the “third” non-dual option/side is doing the ultimate electrical work all thru their own balancing of the dualities in their time/space and space/time. They would not apply as being “useless” but the ultimate useful in generating energy/experience)

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There’s only so many “paths” for this “solar system” in “this universe” right now.
Any other path is going to be one of those “proven” paths with slight variations.

I suspect the “next” universe, for those of us who graduate this one, will have either 5 or 7 paths “proven” paths. (still working out if it’s 1,2,3,5,7 or 1,2,3,7)

@Quad

and to elaborate on the

my heart keeps saying no you are in the middle.

my mind (fear) interferes at times saying, “idiot, you’ll miss on the easy flow of life, the assistance”.

Yet, considering some really personal experiences, I’m 99% sure that

either
“my higher self” has been dragging me through this path while I was unconscious about it for 29 years
or
I can come up with some really weird conspiracy theories that none of which make sense to me at this point.

@_OM

First you might want to read thru this thread for further clarification (although at some point I’ll probably need to clarify some subtleties I left out)

Anyone wear the ascension tag

@Quad

What do you mean by this?

The ability to balance/integrate/transcend polarities/dualities in one’s own consciousness on this plane is doing the “work” of the macrocosm on the microcosm level.

@Quad

So you are saying that being a grey Jedi would not really miss anything, but it’s a lot of work?

Had to look up what defines a “grey Jedi”.
Umm… kinda…
Hard to say without knowing you personally.
Original “buddhist” teachings are called “The Middle Path” as they are neither extreme.

@Quad

I keep getting this “pick your side” message from certain influencers, but my heart keeps saying “no, you are in the middle”.

Well yeah, they want more “work” to be done and want you on their “side”.
Many aren’t entirely cognizant of why they want more people on their side even on “higher” plans.
It’s an instinctual/intuitive thing where they know and believe it’s necessary, cause it is.

@Quad

my heart keeps saying no you are in the middle.

my mind (fear) interferes at times saying, “idiot, you’ll miss on the easy flow of life, the assistance”.

Don’t get me wrong there is plenty of “help” for those choosing the middle path as well.

The problem is, the vast majority of people aren’t doing the middle path (or the other paths)…
They are simply oscillating between one extreme/duality and the other one and making little to no progress on any path…

In that way, the middle/non-dual path is harder as one needs to be brutally honest with themselves (insert posts about needing a teacher here) and there’s less room for “error” before one’s finds themselves “stuck” oscillating between polarities instead of balancing them.

@_OM

@abro

I suppose letting go of life itself while still here in this body is where im headed with this

psst. it’s letting go of the ego/sense of being “separate”… physical death is painless. Ego death…errr…not so much

[uial]

Updated Recommended reading and movies, The Star Exercise and Mass meditations.