Balance: Love - Power - Wisdom
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I know you asked OM and I’m curious to see his answer but my opinion what’s “right” for one person may be “wrong” for another and vice versa. And what is the “right” thing to do can seem immoral or wrong to other people or society as a whole. Only the Higher Self of each individual can guide that individual down the right path. One can’t go wrong when listening to the the guidance of the Higher Self. Now, discernment between what is Higher Self and ego inside of you- that’s the key. But, in general, as long as we respecting others and their will- I’d say that is central. The golden rule can seem cliche but it really is never wrong. Do unto others as you want them to do to you.
What Om said about balancing Love, Power, and Wisdom is so true. Love (feminine), Wisdom (masculine), Power (which is neutral)-therefore can be used properly used or misused. He named the three primary forces of the universe right there. Masculine, Feminine, Neutral.
What’s a practical example of balancing Love and Wisdom?
A homeless person asks you for some money and explains they are struggling and you feel a lot of love and empathy in your heart for them. But your inner wisdom tells you that person may be a drunk or an addict- now, the wrong thing to do would be to give them some money. In that case, the right thing would be to offer to buy them some food as to not contribute to their disease. That’s a wise way to love.
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Some type of love.
But not unconditional one.
You go love without judgment and that love is deeper and felt in a much bigger scale. it can inspire more and if not, thats none of your business.
You dont help others conditioning that help.
Cool, you buy the man food, but he wants alcohol so he go rob someone and is able to run faster cause belly full 
and you went home feeling good about about what you did thinking the man ate and didnt drink.
If you help without condition just with absolutely pure and unconditonal love it works magic.
“You are hungry, but i know you gon drink too, just make sure you eat too cause i love you and I care, and every time you get some money i hope you also eat whatever else you do, and I hope one day you eat more than what you drink” enjoy it either way"
Believe Me. Itd impact him better.
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With cause and effect, intention doesn’t matter as much as the effect. A debt is accrued regardless of how noble and unconditionally loving your intention was. So I disagree.
That’s where the phrase “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” came from.
And feeling good about yourself would be ego if that is the concern. It was about you. Not the person’s well being.
If that person later does something to harm or kill someone else while drunk on the liquor they just bought with your assistance, is your energy not involved in the debt? All other factors aside
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Like the one you describe before.
Exactly.
You think you change the mans life by buying food instead of giving money?
You think you did the right think huh?
That kind of individual go sell the food right after and buy drugs with it while thinking “tf? ha, rich ppl think they can just tell us what to do” then bury himself in further anger towards life and his circumstances.
But you sleep well because you did a great thing for the man. Seriously real love + wisdom is understanding the others perspective no matter which one it is. Wear their shoes, feel what they feel.
99% of the time ppl on the streets live like that because they were judged and not really loved.
But you do you my friend, if you ever get the chance to sit and talk to someone on the streets ask them. What is real.
Check on youtube social experiments with hiden cameras where someone gives homeless money “to buy food” and then he follow the homeless, he goes buy blankets, water, clothes etc and go give to others.
You dont get to see who is who. Just like that.
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He can do whatever he wants with the food you buy him. We can understand and empathize with people, walk in their shoes in our hearts and minds, but still choose to not contribute to their self destruction. We agree to disagree because I don’t see any good in enabling. That’s not love. Love is tough sometimes. Other times it’s soft. The example I gave calls for tough love and help in a constructive manner.
I don’t see how denying someone money but offering food is in any way judging them. Not at all.
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The thing is that the man is going to find the way to get alchohol with or without your help
But you are more worried about karma and consequences for yourself in the name of helping others, why dont u take the time and sit with the man and ask him why he drinks? Buy him a beer and see him telling all his truth then you can help empathizing with others is not doing what you think is right but what the other person is struggling to understand themselves.
Anyway lets not derail this post any further, we can create one to discuss more if you like
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Exactly. I don’t need to contribute to that.
It’s not about worrying about your own debt, I was just stating it’s true we would accrue one. You can do both. It would better benefit BOTH parties involved to buy the food instead. Nah, it’s cool. We disagree and that’s okay. :)
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I think it needs to be said though, I used to be the drug addict that sometimes panhandled money in the name of being hungry. So, um I’m definitely the last to judge someone struggling with addiction. And clearly the first to understand them. So, I’m not coming from a place of ignorance or naivety.
You know what saved my life? Everyone in my family and my friends stopped giving me money and enabling me after i ODed 2 times in one week. Same situation applies here.
AFTER years of “trying to understand me.”
And I’d bet anything you’re judging me right now after preaching non-judgement. But, I’m the definition of a success story. So Idc.
Edit: yea sorry @uial, go ahead and move these comments. Thanks.
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As i said. Open a thread if you want to discuss further. We have derailed this one more than enough.
@uial 
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Hope the GIF like you too :D
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Perfect brother. Beautiful.
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I have a different view on this whole homeless person example.
I believe that everyone 100% manifests their own experience within the matrix and when the homeless person encounters the person with money, then only because they co-created this meeting in the first place (in most cases sub-consciously based on the programs in the subconscious mind).
They both co-created their experience where the homeless person gets the experience of asking for money and the person with the money experiences a situation where he/she is asked for money and can decided how to react to this.
None of these encounters are ever random but take place in perfect synchronicity according to each of the participant’s personal reality bubbles. Everyone co-creates their experience with everyone else.
I don’t believe in karma. Only in experiences that everyone co-creates.
The mind often theoretically asks “what if x happens?”, “what if y takes place?” etc.
But if you actually look at your personal life, then how much of these “what ifs” have ever manifested?
In almost all cases it is all a mental dialogue based on consumed media, inner ego talk, subconscious fears etc.
That’s called “living in the head” and I made this mistake for decades myself. I thought I only need to have all the information and construct the perfect plan, and then I will alsways “win” or “be safe”.
However, I believe that you are only safe when you let go of this overthinking, connect with the guidance of the Higher Self, and proactively manifest – from your heart – the reality you want to experience.
The only measurement for finding the right model of reality is to look at what one was thinking and feeling and what actually manifested in one’s own person reality bubble.
We can also observe what other are feeling/thingking/believing and by this manifesting.
Not looking at theoretical scenarios and what ifs, but at what everyone actually manifests as their experiences.
Many ethical and philosophical questions are exactly at this level of mental theorizing – blending out what is actually happening.
In the end all that matters is that everyone decides what life and circumstances they want to experience and then adjust beliefs, thoughts, words and actions according to this.
I am speaking about personal experience here.
Once I was able to change certain subconscious beliefs about certain topics, my whole reality experience concerning aspect of life changed and remained changed.
E.g. I changed the belief of how worthy I am of earning a certain amount of money. Now this amount of money comes in regardsless of how “hard” I work.
Everything is possible and everything can change.
All the power is in the consciousness.
Now how do others and their reality bubbles fit into this big picture?
The one with the stronger reality bubble will influence the subconscious minds of the one with the weaker reality bubble.
And the stronger reality bubble has a chance of changing the bubble of the other person.
Strength of reality bubble depends amount of energy, level of vibration and amount of true free will.
That is why when a person raised their vibration and/or radiate love, they are influencing the whole collective of humanity and can affect billions of other’s reality bubbles.
Everything is interconnected, but the personal experience depends on one’s manifestations while inside the matrix game.
If you don’t want to live in a world where there are homeless people, then focus on manifesting such a world.
What will happen is that you will no longer encounter homeless people in your personal reality.
You will know that they exist somewhere but you will not meet them.
Now this is changing the reality of your personal reality bubble.
If you want to change the whole world with your manifestation where that are literally no homeless people at all, then you will need to have a such strong reality bubble influence that all the homeless people change their beliefs and decide to manifest no longer being homeless.
Now about the triangle that _OM mentioned:
- Power = energy, focus, concentration, resources, manifestation ability, level of vibration
- Love = the ultimate goal, that which gives purpose, the ultimate truth, ultimate conciousness/awareness/joy/freedom/oneness
- Wisdom = the information part, knowing, chosing most effective and efficient path
So you basically really need to have all three of these.
And at a certain level those three are synonyms anyways.
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Bro, almost all of what you said can be true, and what I said still be true. I think you’re just not connecting the dots the way I am. I see the truth in a lot of you said while simultaneously not changing my view one bit. I’m going to sleep and will address your post tomorrow. But let me leave you with this real quick.
So you believe cause and effect is negotiable (I agree it is) it seems because you referred to how we create our own realities (we do). The homeless person and us meeting the homeless person isn’t a coincidence-I also agree with this. Literally everything is a chain of cause and effect. There is law of accident/coincidence, but it’s rarer. The universe exists because of cause and effect. That’s all karma is. And like I said, of course you can override it, change it, negotiate it. I can talk about that for a long time. This stuff is well documented. Not a new idea. There is a great book called “Karma Is Negotiable” actually. I agree with literally 80% of everything you said (with some nuance added). Doesn’t change the example I gave. I still think that’s the highest way to benefit everyone in that particular situation. I’ve been in it and it always feels right in my heart. I’ve also been in that person’s shoes and I know enabling is never the answer.
I mean idk how we even got here out of me giving a simple example of how we can be balanced about how we give love. Love isn’t always this as Om Says “puppies and kitties” and I’ll add in a term I like, “fake love and light” where we are indiscriminate about our actions in the name of “unconditional love and light” to most of the time just feed our ‘virtuous egos.’ That’s usually the subconscious motive. No genuine Masters operate this way. Anyway, I will finish tomorrow. Goodnight.
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This is karma. Cause and effect. Karma is not necessarily punishment and reward. This is a huge misconception. Every action has a result- this is all karma is . So yes we all co create.
It’s honestly really bizarre that what I said is so controversial. It’s really such a normal opinion to have. I truly think everyone is just trying to idk…be clever or something. Truth be told, it’s literally the natural reaction I have to a obvious drug addict homeless person and it 100% comes from my higher self. There’s no reason to reason about it. And straight up I think if you guys are knowingly giving money to drug addicts it’s to feel like you did something virtuous- but you didn’t. It’s either that or you are seriously misguided.
Let me remind you, I used to be the person. I know that due to enablers I stayed in my addiction much longer. Of course you can and probably will argue that it was my path and needed to experience it and learn from it, which I believe is true too. 100%. But everyone has a choice whether or not to be a part of it. And of course you can argue that the enablers needed to learn a lesson about co dependence or whatever. May also be true . But when people make new choices that aren’t in line with their typical patterns, that’s when we/they can create a whole new timeline. A whole new way of being. A better way.
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There is no question in the OP and if there was it would be above my paygrade so to say.
But, is it possible that the debate about what type of love should be used, is more a question of “Wisdom” than love.
You caring about that stranger enough that you stop your thing, spend time, energy, maybe money to help without expecting anything in return… because you see him as a reflection of yourself. That’s love, right ?
How to help him: Tough love or compassionate speech= Wisdom ? (third pillar)
It’s about the method and even if there is probably a universal rule we are not able to comprehend, we have to adapt to the person. We can’t treat everyone the same. Some people need boundaries, some need encouragement.
It might just be that one wants to delay treatment (sober up) to learn about the patient (hobo) to be more effective (compliance and accuracy), the other wants to start the treatment right away because he recognizes the problem from his past experiences and wants to stop the bleeding ?
You guys are practically talking the same thing…
The fight for who helps the best
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Very well put man. Agreed.
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This maybe the case in most cases but there is also a huge misconception when this mechanism is sold as a “universal law” – because it is not.
The are real laws like “the law of manifestation” and the “law of grace” and both of these laws are able to instantly nullify a certain cause-effect chain. Otherwise there would be no free will.
Only because consciosness is able to define and change at any time certain action-reaction pairs, there is actually real free will.
Free will means that actions and their following reactions can be reconfigurated as the one pleases.
PS:
I did not recommend to give the drug addict your money. I recommend that if you want to heal someone particular you need to change their beliefs, raise their vibration and of course also cut them off from their drug supply. The perspective I gave was a top-level view, not from the POV of the incarnated players. As Einstein said, it is best to solve a problem at least a level higher than the level the problem exists at.
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Dammit I didn’t mean to delete that last post.
Debates like this really highlight how subjective duality is. Just think about how many possibilities are at play at any moment based on the interactions of body, speech, and mind of billions of people and their higher selves all at once. A GIANT interplay of energy and consciousness dancing with itself through its “separate” units-all possibilities in suspense at once and all is the residue of “ previous” and “future” phenomenon (which is all really happening at once). It makes me think of Quantum Superposition.
It’s all really bug out and beautiful.
And bro I’m not disagreeing. The law of manifestation (which technically is still a “cause”) is a given. I don’t see it’s relevance to the situation honestly.
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