Calogero Grifasi and Investigating topics like Reincarnation, Spirituality, and wether there is manipulation or not (polls, q & a, debates)

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Warning: this thread is NOT for everyone!

If you do not question spirituality, divinity, truth, ets agenda, etc., this is not for you.

If you however are open to question your beliefs or others’ and want to gather potentially some new information, but not standard stuff, this might be for you.

Another disclaimer: this might be a thread which might raise doubts, uncertainty, fear etc., although that is not my intention, my intention is primarily and above all to investigate and to question… Everything. (if possible lol).

In the end, there is nothing to fear but fear itself, as the saying goes: you are immortal, you are Divine, you transcend this realm, let’s start with that common knowledge…

OK…

It seems that I can not be genuine with myself if I present you guys only my “good side” or a cleaner image only.

Currently and for years now I have been questioning a lot of things, but first of all we need to find out or at least investigate our beliefs, ourselves, goodness, evil, Spirituality, spiritual practices and methods or finding the Truth (whatever it is), ets, reptilians, Reincarnation, earth and the afterlife (astral plane/planes) as places used for resource gathering and other purposes by something/some beings or intelligence and other heavy topics…

Let’s start with this: there’s this guy called Galogero Grifasi and he’s one of those people who are investigating the afterlife, ets, Spirituality and countless related subjects.

He uses regressive hypnosis, mainly, alongside other methods.

He has caught my eye for at least a year by now…

Here’s a topic from reddit, of course he has his own channels and people using his methods, and thee is A LOT of material to explore his and others findings…

I hope this thread is permitted as part of a path which investigates and never settles for clear or definitive answers.

However, just as a last disclaimer: there is obviously goodness, some higher truth out there and in there, I’m not denying that nor denying anything, however I do question all religions, Spiritual paths, accepted truths, methods of knowing (including Calogero’s), etc.

Also, I do think that we can investigate using many methods, not only his or others’, plus each one of us has his own path to explore.

If permitted I will update this thread from time to time,wether often or less often, Idk.

I would like for you to read this and especially watch his videos, they might raise doubts in your mind though…

Anyway, I will always research, doubt things, question things, never settle for any truth or path, always I will explore etc.

Plus, I can not deny the good which this forum and the morphic fields or Mantras or yoga brought into my life, neither autossugestions, subliminal messages, etc.

Feel free to reply, if you want, if you have questions or maybe answers, or if you want to debate anything or any subject, wether you’re a skeptic or wether you are new to these subjects or wether you want to engage in ongoing debates (if any lol, we’ll see)…

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Anonymous polls, if anyone is interested…

Do you question your path(s) or knowledge or methods?

  • Yes.
  • No.
  • I don’t even think about questioning it.
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Do you question Spirituality or the Truth/truths or things concluded by others?

  • Yes.
  • No.
  • It’s complicated.
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Will you ever research Calogero Grifasi and his methods and sessions?

  • Yes.
  • No.
  • Maybe.
0 voters

Do you consider questioning and investigating metaphysical or spiritual subjects a worthwhile endeavor?

  • No.
  • Yes.
  • No hard opinion/view.
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Do you think that Spirituality suffers from manipulation?

  • No.
  • Yes, to some degree(s).
  • Absolutely, most things are tainted.
  • I have no solid opinion on this topic.
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Using regressive hypno instead of actual astral travelling to explore the afterlife… :roll_eyes:

That alone completely disqualifies him and anything that he puts out.

Using regressive hypno is like going to Wikipedia, then clicking on five random articles in a row, then trying to make sense of the whole world based on just these 5 random articles.

He is accessing info from people’s unprocessed stuff in their subconscious minds – not exploring the actual afterlife!

Furthermore, everyone who says that Earth is a “prison planet” has not done any proper research or understood even the most basic of things.

(my personal opinion as an astral traveller and someone who actually explores the afterlife for 20+ years).

@SoulStar33
Have you actually yet looked into the Astral Travel and Afterlife threads?
I recommended them to you years ago.

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Why not use multiple techniques to explore any subject?

I am not an expert in anything but I would say that data is or can be valuable, regardless of the method(s) used to explore a topic.

Also, just because you or anyone has any experience regarding the afterlife, does that mean that the information gathered or that which is observed or experienced through astral traveling is absolutely accurate and there is no room for personal filters, interpretations or even errors or falsehoods?

Also, no I have not read or researched those threads properly, only explored them a little bit.

Also, the guy I’ve mentioned has done probably thousands of sessions and there are like two types of hypnotic sessions he uses, personal / therapeutic needs or exploratory / investigative in nature.

Yeah, he has disclaimers that the data provided is filtered, thus has or might have distorsions, however there is this thing: most clients or people who try his methods share similar experiences and findings: manipulative ets masquerading as light beings, guides, relatives, Gods, etc., plus using the humans as their resources, food (on an energetic or subtle level), etc., often causing many issues, like imbalances, health issues and other issues (which is food source for those beings) and manipulating people into taking contracts they did not want or had no idea (completely) about what they entailed or people taught they were doing God’s will or following their guides or Councils or whatever, however, according to the data revealed during the sessions, they found out that those beings ’ real appearances were wildly different from what they presented themselves initially as, often having reptoloid or snake or lizard like appearance or other appearances, while they initially appeared/presented themselves as Light or Radiant Beings, Higher Beings etc.

So, Everyone who says that Earth is a prison planet or questions or challenges the most widely accepted models regarding the afterlife is a fool or an ignorant or what?!

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Just to clarify, @JAAJ, Your knowledge is at a waaaay higher level than what I have, I’m not denying that.

I’m just asking if some negative beings or non humans having agendas or other explanations can’t actually be true as well…

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Yes, but pick your techniques wisely.

If you cannot judge whether a technique or method is a viable tool for gathering clean data, you are in for a lot of trouble and misinformation.

That is Science 101 btw, “how to gather clean data from an experiment”…

Additionally, as you may know, there are several government psy op groups spreading disinfo in order to keep people mentally trapped, people who easily believe stuff are not willing to look deeper into the actual nature of things. Prison Planet is one of these psy ops btw.

Wrong data can send you into creating false world models and go on detours for decades.

This is like flat earthers constantly debating about flat earth. They have some data at hand, but since the data is incomplete or plain wrong, they keep circle-jerking with each other for decades and coming to completely wrong conclusions.

There are many books that tried explore the afterlife through regression hypno, like e.g. Michael Newton, and they all lead to a completely distorted, mostly wrong model of what the afterlife, reincarnation is actually like.

You have asked this question for years here on this forum if I remember correct.
But the thing is, it looks like to me you almost never listened to any advice or explored anything when people gave you input.

Sometimes you are asking the same or very similar things that you have asked years ago.

From time to time you post something that you saw on the internet, like the guy above, then you come to the forum and ask others for their opinions.
Then other post you their opinions, yet you never seem to exlore any of it?!?
After those years I really get the feeling you like going around in the loops you are in.

Since it looks like that my energy is wasted in most cases when I give you input, I will no longer give you any input in the future or reply to your posts.

You can look up all my past replies and recommendations to you here on the forum, so from my point of view you are covered with finding all the answers you are looking for.

Quantity does not create quality.

A tiny tiny fraction of the bigger picture.

Just a few souls circle-jerking together and manifesting what they want to manifest into their personal experience bubbles.

If you wanna join them, then good luck, go ahead and join their agenda of “escaping prison planet”.

Reminds me of the church recruiting naive souls for their crusades.

But I would highly advise you to not go down into this victim mode route.

No, questioning is good.
But questioning without doing proper further research is circle-jerking.

You are the type of guy who questions everything and that is very good.
But then, it seems to me from observing you here on the forum for the past years, you never seem to do anything with it any further…?!?

At some point you should be tired of asking the same questions again and again, don’t you?
If you want real answers whether “Earth is a prison planet” you need to look outside the box of the “prison planet victim community”.

There are no such widely accepted models really as the information available is very fragmental.

Thank you, but you have been asking these things for years.

And you never listened to any of the input or research the recommended resources (at least from me it seems).

Hence why I will stop here. I will no longer feed your loop of “endless questioning but not researching” with my energy.

I understand you went through a very rough time in the past years.
But now, it looks to me that you like to keep yourself busy with fringe internet niches.

I also understand where the desire to explore the “prison planet” comes from.
Because it triggers existential threat on a soul level.
It triggers the fear of losing what is the most precious, the real you.
Well if you trust my judgment, I am will hereby tell you that Earth is not a prison and that you are not a victim of a negative entity agenda and you do not need to worry about your soul.
They only way some entity can trick you into involuntarity reincarnating again is if you are naive enough to believe their bullshit. And even if that happens, your Higher Self and Spirit Guides will likely intervene.

For peace of mind, you can also instruct all the Angels and Archangels to always proactively warn you and protect you from any misleading entities and misleading agendas that someone tries to trick you into.

Yeah, you always want people to explain things to you.

But when that happens, you never seem to do anything with it.
And you never seem to do real research.
(Reddit, Facebook and TikTok is not research.)

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Harsh, but fair points…

No need to further reply to my questions, also your topics and (re)sources are available for research, so thank you for providing that huge pool of data.

As for me, Idk, maybe I am wrong, but I can not trust 100% in anything or anyone and perhaps that is a flaw of mine…

Since I had a father who told me that he will murder me and an aunt who ripped off my mom and me and then seeing so much problems, health issues and failures in my personal life or my family must have left me thinking everything is bad out there, no higher truth, but bs, lies, etc., and the only exceptions remained the practical ones, like seeing what helps me and keeping it, like fields, etc.

(just using those examples in a factual way, not empathy trapping)

Anyway, it is what it is…

I will learn too, what is the truth, and how to achieve higher levels, sooner or later…

I used to trust in the Divine, but now I don’t, in anything…

I do trust in myself though…

And that is enough.

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Same thing.
You are the divine, you trust in yourself, hence you trust the divine.

Anyways I didn’t check that whole reddit post but the title is that angels think we’re stupid?

That’s very clearly a human perspective to me, so for me personally I wouldn’t research further.

I would question everything though. That’s the real scientific mind.

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:sweat_smile::folded_hands: That would be something (maybe they do Idk, I personally view our species as extremely violent, and with little empathy for other species, heck even for our own species, but maybe I’m just generalizing, anyway back to the topic), but no it’s about a session (hypnosys) where an entity who initially was identified by the woman being hypnotized as Archangel Gabriel, upon further investigation turns out to be a Reptilian, who presented itself as Gabriel to make that person trust them (in a previous life, when the person died that “Gabriel” appeared and offered him (she was a man in that life) power, a better life, guidance, along those lines) and a contract was created which made that soul “his property” (well, his “soldier” as the entity put it/framed /explained it), having to go through whatever suffering “Gabriel” thought was “needed” for her soul to Evolve, learn and to help others (those were the bait, the lies presented to her, at a soul level, before incarnation and I think he duped that soul multiple times, that she is needed in this world, to guide others, to help, to serve etc.), all while she was being food for multiple snake entities, some smaller, some even supposedly living in her aura, in her stomach area (or attached Idk), feeding on her suffering and negativity (she hated herself, had emotional issues etc. And those snakes/entities were feeding on her)…

And that “Gabriel” was making fun of humanity during the session, how gullible we are etc.

Anyway, supposedly Calogero helped her get rid of those entities, if the video is authentic (again, I assume he is genuine, but Idk), and there are many videos with him helping people get rid of entities, removing contracts, through hypnosys and various techniques which do appear on the videos (some at least).

That’s about it, at least that case.

Edit: multiple similar cases are present in many sessions, with entities presenting themselves as Guides, Angels, Light Beings etc.

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Just one more case and I will post the text here, also I won’t post other cases here, since anyone who wants to research, can do so anyway:

"Calogero Grifasi 53-EN: Religious programming during life. Satan and hell. Going to the center of Earth. Souls with a low level of consciousness don’t question reincarnation process.

Yet another account that involves religion as a perfect trap. However, it’s not that simple and it’s not just religion. Living and reincarnating on Earth repeatedly in itself involves agreeing to certain conditions and eventually leads to a drop in consciousness and a type of apathy or slave mentality.

Man was beheaded in a past life in medieval France. At the time of death, his soul tries to go up and away from the earth plane but can’t because it is etherically chained by the ankles and wrists and so he gets pulled towards the nucleus of the earth to “hell”, where it is met by “Satan”. Before the next incarnation, this man’s soul is sent up to a ship that is in space near Earth. This ship also serves as a container for souls. There he is made to sign reincarnation contracts by a light being in white clothes. The contract includes suffering in order to “pay for past life sins”, not remembering these past lives, and remaining chained to Satan for 100 reincarnations. This light being is questioned during hypnosis and turns out to be a shapeshifter. In this case, it appears that “Satan” and that light being were the same entity, which is in reality a mix of a humanoid and something else (my guess some humanoid-reptilian hybrid). It initially assumed the look of Satan for this soul because this man was a Christian in that past life and committed “sins”. This was also when this entity attached to this soul - during that life, as in during and after whatever acts that were considered sinful, and this is why it was already enslaved right after death and couldn’t leave. During regression, they ask this soul why it agreed to all of that and kept reincarnating 56 times while being enslaved. The soul’s reasoning, or more like lack of it, is a combination of things: 1. fear - of both Satan and that heavenly being in white clothes, of punishment for sins (all of this due to religious programming), 2. the soul thought it had no other options, no choice, it was not aware that it was a creator being that didn’t have to reincarnate or agree to reincarnation contracts written by someone else, 3. it “got used to” all of this - this process of being owned and being made to reincarnate and specifically reincarnate with all those contracts and conditions. Towards the end, the regressionist asks the soul what it thinks of Earth in general and it says that Earth is “so so” but that it got used to the reincarnation cycle and was not conscious throughout this process!

Note:

This case is not about the identity of Satan, because different entities can pretend to be Satan or can be seen as Satan by the person/soul. Also in this case Satan in hell and the light being in heaven were the same entity and it often happens like that, but a soul - or a person while still alive - can run into something demonic and something angelic that will be different entities or groups and they both will want to deceive the soul, sometimes cooperating and sometimes competing between each other for the ownership of the soul. “Hell” in this case is a collection/network of artificial lower astral worlds underground, as opposed to “heavens” slightly above earth. “Sins” you are guilted for by entities can be both real and imaginary transgressions. For example, don’t expect the entities to care that you stole some food because you were dying of hunger, left an abusive family or went against the will of a controlling family member/spouse that made them unhappy, hurt someone in self-defense. Selfish acts will be held against you too, but lack of selfish acts is not a problem for the entities because they will still come up with something you did wrong or failed to accomplish. “Do what thou wilt” type of mentality as a rebellion against religion and social morality is not the solution to this however. It’s just another trap. What was this soul even doing here before this contract with Satan and why did it fall for religion? This was not covered in this session and it would take another separate investigation. Maybe it got caught up in the physical pleasures, maybe it thought it was free and “creating one’s own reality” while completely unaffected and unbothered by limitations that affected less fortunate ones, maybe it thought it was here to grow spiritually or something like that because of some earlier programming. It doesn’t really matter to the entities which narrative or which pleasurable activity you fall for and what you find pleasure and purpose in here, as long as it keeps you coming back here. They still count on and take advantage of your ignorance of their activities and motives, your ignorance of all of your options as a soul, and that apathy and compliance that comes from a low level of consciousness.

Calogero and his sessions made me question things further than ever before…

Now, I would NEVER Trust a being appearing before me, while incarnated or after this life/incarnation, if it would try to keep me in any way shape or form bound to any rules (“karma”, “debt(s)”, “reincarnation”, “suffering or whatever as a life lesson”, “helping others”, now I think they are all BS, at least anything which is “offered” to you or “required of/from you” or “decreed/imposed” upon etc.) or to any realm etc…

IF I AM A True Sovereign Creator/Being/Soul/Whatever, I do NOT need any “school lessons” or “guidance”, especially if it comes with a known or unknown bill…or costs… Or obligations or promises (whatsoever).

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I don’t even like that channel, but there is an example of astral travelers that say similar things.

Hypnosis is a great data gathering method. Hypnotists are the first to think it isn’t, but against expectations it has worked well. In life between lives hypnosis, people’s memories are the same as classic literature on the afterlife.

There is rarely any counterpoint given to these theories. There are just beings telling you the white light is good, you need to repent, forgive, ascend, “be better” (aka the afterlife is a progremonster paradise), reincarnate and have your memories wiped. There are beings who have said that there was nothing there and they built the place. Generally it reflects whatever technology people are familiar with, but slower, for “reasons” (it seems they don’t know how to build fiber optic networks there, nobody that knows how died).

Then there are beings that denounce all this is a big psy op and the real meaning of matrix.

The other ones never give a counterargument except more love and light bs. Europe is reflecting paradise quite well with its love and light politics and nobody likes it…

As for prison planet being a psy op. Yeah I think that specific theory or some details are, but you can’t deny it is the matrix anyways. Besides there is no point to it. Oh well…fear harvesting? There is much more of that with the “repent” and pay off your karmic debt directive. Not trusting higher beings (trust me, they aren’t perfect and do crappy (and creepy) stuff all the time), fighting, hiding, escaping, etc seems like far less loosh being harvested than if you accept forced reincarnation and being recycled and harvested infinitely until you “ascend” to the next level where you are further removed from the energy source so you think it is all good old light and love, while you are either a slave or a handler eventually.

Total equality. I don’t remember if it was Robert Bruce or William Bhulman that spoke through some channellers to explain that, and say that is the ultimate truth and everything else just led to that. And what they taught and learned even after dying was all deceitful shenanigans from the astral.

I don’t like Calogero, but all he does is command entities to leave people’s consciousness and the result is always positive.

If you think you’re alone while you have many friends…you will be fine and so will they, as they respect free will, right?

If you think you have many friends while being alone, you are screwed. There is the choice of being a warrior or a gardener.

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Indeed, that’s how I view things as well, basically hypnosis is one of the best ways to gather data from one’s past and possibly from deeper layers, like previous lives etc.

Basically you have a HUGE library of data, again it’s clearly distorted (partially) by the subconscious filters, beliefs, etc., yet when countless people tell the same tune (it’s not all sunshine and rainbows on the other side, since many many beings seem to be overqualified in the business of lying and masquerading as beings of light etc.), you have to listen to the music, since so many folks can not be fabricating a dark ets agenda etc., it’s just waaay past a few individuals or an exception at this point, although perhaps, as you said/noted, there is (probably is) some manipulation in the prison planet narrative as well, yet simply completely denying its whole premise or conclusion that there is a matrix at play on earth and near it, is also blinding oneself to truths beyond the all goodness and light pov…

Lol, you brought a good point with not trusting so called higher beings actually conserves (or might conserve/save) more ones strength/loosh than otherwise.

Moodi’ research regarding Life between lives and Dolores Cannon and many other researchers all focus on trusting entities (light beings etc) and the experiences provided by them (love euphoria, etc.), rather than questioning them, like Calogero or others are doing…

I’m kinda sleepy so I might edit this reply tomorrow or maybe just let it as it, Idk.

Thank You, Driff, you brought some fine points.

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That channel looks interesting, (I saw remote viewing being mentioned although no idea if it’s a remote viewing channel or if it provides data from all sorts of techniques and methods, I will find out later) at least for someone like me who likes to watch/learn about all sort of theories, techniques, data and povs presented from all across the spiritual spectrum (positive, negative, rare povs, etc.)…

I saw (multiple but especially) two videos which I found interesting, one where the second death was mentioned in the title and one which mentioned that Jesus’ name would not stop an abduction.

While I won’t get into the details, I used to feel my soul being dragged out of my body, by something above, it was one of the worst sensations I ever felt, unique and terrifying, anyway Jesus’ name used to work for me, at least momentarily.

A couple of Psychic University fields seem to have ended that sensation for a long time now though.

Anyway, that was my experience with calling Jesus for help…

As for the other video from that channel, regarding second death, Idk, I’ve heard a guy from the Farsight Institute (Courtney Brown) saying that the soul is basically indestructible, a view shared by Calogero too, although he destroys entities from someone’s internal space/subconscious and subtle parts, yet he explained that nothing is ever truly destroyed, they just move to some other dimension or density or something like that.

IF and ONLY IF our souls can be destroyed somehow (alien tech, magical, spiritual or (through) other means etc.), then most probably we would simply relocate our consciousness in an even more subtle level or body…

Anyway, I will have to read and watch much more from/of the material / data provided by the positive side too, regarding the soul, afterlife, the astral plane, etc., from Monroe to Moody and others.

Edit: and finally I will have to explore things myself through astral traveling and other means…

Regarding an out of body experience, I’ve had a spontaneous one when I was doing chakras work and although not complete, since I was basically starting to see myself out of my body, but at the same time still seeing and feeling myself in my body too, lol, strange stuff, yet it was VERY pleasant ngl, pure love, euphoria etc.

However I decided to get back in the body / stop the process and I focused on my body and the first chakra and my pov was dragged back into my body.

YET, I’ve also had a terrifying experience as well when I was 5 years old, floating above my bed towards some entity, something dark, a monster, it was huge, also my mom and dad had a strange experience too that night, as both had the same dream, that someone/something was trying to take me away, strange stuff…

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