Moving discussion here
Ok so lets get into the biggest betrayal, on top of the other things I expressed.
Ages ago I expressed my disgust at Dreamweaver calling WOMEN āpeople with wombsāā¦ which is completely ridiculous. No sane woman ever would get upset at being called a woman.
And instead of engaging with me, he posted some weird response talking in 3rd person about me and some of the things I said. Part of which was me mentioning a lack of Masculinity programs.
And the biggest issue by far.
After that rites of passages come out which I got when it come out, I noticed some good things initiallyā¦ then it got weird.
Suddenly there was a process where it was attempting to forcefully move me towards accepting woke thoughts, mindsets, perspectives and such. Which I am completely against.
So I stopped using it.
Then I got Quintessence of Hyper Masculinity, the results were partly awesome, the extra strength while working out and the physique benefits in around a month.
Butā¦ it also did this weird forceful push towards wokeness.
You could say āoh youāre just making this upā. Well inbetween iāve used audios from several other creators and this happened exactly ZERO times with any other creators, quite a few different audios. Then I tried Quintessence again quite a while later, same thing.
This fucking pissed me off because the other benefits were awesome, but again I stopped it.
THENā¦ I brought Alchemical Revision of Wealth.
Same thing after a few days.
So since nobody else reported this, since it makes absolutely zero sense it should happenā¦ I can only conclude that he did some kind of process to attempt to āpunishā me for disagreeing with something I very viscerally am against (āpeople with wombsā nonsense) and attempt to force me to take on these perspectives.
Somehow he seemingly thinks this kind of behavior towards a customer is okay.
This is completely untrustworthy and dodgy, and because of this I am now unable to use the audios which did give good benefits and that iāve spent quite alot of money on, especially pissing me off because I want to use Quintessence Of Hyper Masculinity and get the benefits it was giving, without this woke nonsense.
Sure all the other stuff I mentioned applies, but this is by far the biggest issue causing my frustration and annoyance, with all the other stuff stacked on top.
Iāve tried multiple methods, processes to get rid of this issue so that I can use the audios without this happening and none have helped. So even with how amazing the new audios sound, thereās too much risk of me investing quite a bit of money in a couple of them to just have this issue again.
Iām sure several people will run in to attack me, coming up with all kinds of excuses. But as I said this ONLY happened with the audios I used after that incident, and ONLY with his audios and no other creators audiosā¦ so iām not making anything up at all. In fact iād LOVE to be able to use these audios without experiencing this massive negative.
Hi,
Do you have any evidence about this?
My evidence is experiencing it consistently when I used those audios after, and revisiting my old journals and me mentioning it happening in those quite a few times, and as I said it not happening with any other creator.
Also it never happened before this and iād used quite a few audios from him in the past without any issues until that started.
Yes I know.
I meant do you have any evidence of Dreamweaver supporting the opinion you expressed about him?
Otherwise itās simply a baseless accusation
This thread on the forum Womb Healing - #17 by Muse
I have no need to run around and make things up, this is coming from me wanting to get results for myself and this issue causing me problems with audios that seemed to be helping before this happened.
And also the fact that this stopped when I stopped the audios aswell, should have said that in the previous post.
You understand not all women have wombs, right???
Im not talking āwokeā but personally i know 2 women who had to have their womb removed surgically???
One due to accident and other as life saving intervention at the end of a pregnancy.
This just means you need to physically have a womb because the field works with that.
This phrasing is not woke but rather specific.
Id be curious what the woke thoughts you mentioned were, if you want to go into details.
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So
I remember that thread. He added this part in the description āFor people with biological wombsā for purposes of specification, meaning the field is intended for and targets that. He added this part just in case there was any confusion to be had.
So where is any wokeness?
And based on that you are saying all other fields you mentioned are pushing you to wokeness (what does that even mean?), which is something you only see in one description, but was only there to make it very clear what was the field intended for?
Then tell me how is quintessences of hyper masculinity woke? Alchemical Revision of wealth too? Where do you find that?
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Maybe you are confusing āwokenessā with āaccepting other gendered parts of yourselfā?
The soul itself is a combo of all the possible genders and polarities. It is the whole spectrum.
In order to be fully masculine you must also integrate your feminine parts.
If you resist doing so, you will never be able to truly express your male polarity, because male and female are exactly that, POLARITIES, meaning that the one can only exist when other also exists.
In order to express the masculine polarity, the feminine polarity has to be fully accepted and appreciated as well.
To make it more clear:
This feminine polarity is something that you accept as a potential and possibility within yourself ā and THEN, since all parts of yourself are now accepted, you can CHOOSE which polarity to express outwards.
It is about accepting those other parts of you, so that you can fully express the male polarity as per choice (instead of per need/cope).
In a sense you are becoming whole first, so that you can choose which polarity to express.
The most dominant and masculine men are the ones who are WHOLE.
Not even speaking about your other incarnations where you are a female as well, donāt forget those parts of yourself too 
So with the masculinity fields bringing up topics that you have not yet integrated, makes perfect sense to me.
The audios are doing exactly what they are supposed to do:
Making you integrate the parts in yourself that you are still rejecting, so that you can then fully embrace the male polarity and become āhyper masculineā.
You should be happy that these fields are helping you with that as most incarned males on the planet will never get to do this during their lifetimes and thus will remain traumatized broken males for their lifetimes.
The fact that that womb comment has even triggered you in the first place, shows how much your belief system and identity is tied to a certain perception of the genders and how much you identify with the human body.
And I am saying all of this as one of the most anti-woke persons on the whole forum.
Dream is the most humble and kind person I know. Your assumption that you are somehow ābeing punishedā is nothing but projection of your own low self esteem. No one is punishing you but you yourself. You probaly are punishing yourself by resisting to integrate essential parts of you. Thinking the field āis evil and wokeā, projecting this even onto the creator of the field ā while all that happens here is full blown self sabotage.
At least, thatās my understanding of what is really going on hereā¦
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Plus the repeated mention that it does not happen with other creatorsā¦
Sigh
Oh well
Hmmm
Maybe we are lacking a self-responsibility field?
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That doesnāt negate what I said. Because without exception everyone with a womb is a woman, no matter how much people try to pretend or be delusional.
It 100% is woke, because thereās absolutely zero confusion who a field for wombs is for, and saying āoh some women get offended by itā is absolutely following the woke brainwashing. This is exactly what the woke crowd is doing, along with nonsense like āpeople who menstrateā. No only women ever can do so, no matter how much they āidentifyā as anything else.
Besides that part was giving context, itās mainly about the rest.
Iām saying that before this interaction and me expressing my disagreement about it that every field iāve used after has had this issue, actually this includes plasmatron aswell. This started with rites of passages.
Those fields should not be woke no, and I donāt think they are standalone by themselves, but thereās this other energetic thing going on since that time.
The description of Quintessence is good, plus there was some strong masculinity effectsā¦ but it come along with this forced push to woke mindsets, I didnāt write specifically in some of my journal as itās obvious what that word means, but there was some stuff like trying to force me to hate trump, thinking masculinity is ātoxicā, trying to force me to accept gender idealogy nonsense.
You could say some of that like thinking masculinity is toxic was Quintessence working through that programming that iāve picked up from society and it would make sense as I know how stuff is brought up.
But as I said it happened in those other audios, where it ESPECIALLY makes zero sense. And it didnāt not happen at all listening to his past audios, purchased ones, free ones, some I listened to for quite a while.
Also what is the problem of me repeatedly mentioning it doesnāt happen with other creators? That is proof that it is not my issue.
And self-responsibility. Okā¦ so I spent quite a few hours, working with my higher self, with different methods on exploring it from that exact angle that iām possibly projecting something, working to clear it out. Over a period of time.
And tried a few of the audios againā¦ same thing. So itās not me projecting it.
Thatās not what was coming up, nor would that make sense with unrelated audios (like the wealth one).
Though I donāt agree at all with the spiritual idea of ābalancing masculine and feminineā. Every single coach iāve heard talking about that has very little masculinity, zero masculine vibe or manner at all.
A field on masculinity bringing in femininity also makes no sense at all.
But the Masculinity field bringing up stuff makes sense as I said above, but that didnāt seem to be the cause with this happening with other audios.
No, the complete bilogical truth that has been truth for billions of years until all these crazy people tried to pretend different.
If I was projecting stuff so strongly it would have happened with other creators, and combine that with other stuff I noticed that iāve mentioned.
If it was the case it would have happened with all the previous audios I tried from him, healing ones, the abandonment one etc, canāt remember specific names.
In fact the discussion we had (the womb stuff) I pretty much moved past it and decided to try Quintessence of Hyper Masculinity as it sounded awesome.
I only revisited it and looked back to explore what might be happening after it brought the things up that I mentioned, then several other unrelated fields from him did too.
Iād like it to not be what iām saying, and iād love to be able to use them without this negative side effect to get the other benefitsā¦ but with everything iāve said itās what iāve concluded is happening. After extensive work from the angle of āok maybe something iām holding onto is creating this or projecting thisā I ended up back at the original conclusion.
Hmmm
To me I still only see an opinion that you brand as 100% absolute truth based on your own interpretation. Which gives exactly zero leeway to do any further discussion.
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It is hard to imagine that a person who is well-versed in the laws of the universe, including the laws of karma, would enter a state of deep meditation with the intention of punishing you or anyone else for simply having a different opinion.
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Being selective with verbiage not to offend people is not āwokeā.
Also, what he said was literal - it helps people with biological wombs. Iām sure those people know who they are regardless of a label that is a social construct anyways.
What about alien females from other planets?
What about humans from the 85th Century?
Obviously that field is not intended for them.
The way it was written, it was clear for everyone who should use or not use this field.
Yet, YOU were the one who got triggered.
Just because the wording was randomly similar to what the woke crowds are using, does not mean that it was intended this way.
In fact, most people didnāt even notice at all.
Yet, YOU, with your anti-wokeness filter, instantly noticed it and got triggered by it.
Reminds me of a feminist girl I met a few months ago:
It was a warm Spring day and she was wearing a winter jacket.
I asked her whether she wouldnāt feel too warm with that and because of her āfeminist all-men-try-to-control-me filterā she assumed I wanted to command her how to dress lmao 
I intended to express my care for her, but what she perceived was āthe attempt of someone to control herā.
The moral of the story is, no matter what you say to people with strong perception filters, they will always see what they want to see.
You are doing yourself no good by constantly looking for woke shit everywhere. Training your perception in this direction is only feeding your mind with negativity.
Isnāt Rites of Passages about the boy becoming a man?
If yes, then it makes perfect sense that the field will bring up everything that needs to be integrated in order to become a real man.
Boy becoming a real man means healing and transcending all the Mommy and Daddy issues.
If fields from other creators about the same topic do not bring those topics up, it just proofs that Dreams fields are working the better and the deeper compared to others.
You are the first and only user for many years who has reported that the fields āhave forcedā you to do something.
In my personal experience and most otherās here, we know that they donāt.
But if that would be the case, donāt you think that from some of the Thousands of other users here, they would have reported this as well, if that would be happening?
So what is more likely?
You projecting, or Thousands of users not being able to see what you can see?
There are many psychic and energy sensitive people here on the forum and if there would be anything like that and/or forcefull energy, those people would have long noticed and reported en masse.
99% of the coaches know jack shit in my opinion.
Escpecially about masculinity.
Rather traumatized boys or fake alphas coaching the masses.
Strong real masculinity (that grounded inner stability) comes from a deep internal feminine nurturing core.
This is when the man no longer externally seeks the healing of feminine energy, because he is able to supply himself with that completely validation from within.
Futhermore, it is not about ābalancingā the masculine and the feminine, but about integrating and accepting ā instead of rejecting.
Again, polarity.
For the one polarity to exist, the other needs to be allowed to exist as well.
You cannot become hyper masculine by not acknowledging the hyper feminine part in your soul as well.
As you acknowledge your own internal source of nurturing feminine energy, a supply that is unconditional and infinite, this is what will constantly nurture your external masculine expression.
You will become an unshakable mountain because you are not looking for anything externally anymore.
For men:
Strong internal feminine nurturing core = strong and stable expression of masculine qualities to the outside world without fear of not being validated by external circumstances
For women:
Strong internal masculine stabilizing core = enables the gentle and safe expression of feminine qualities to the outside world without fear of getting hurt
Why does it matter so much to you how it was worded?
You canāt expect that every sentence is 100% scientifically correct and considers all the possible cases and scenarios.
He even wrote āpeopleā, which excludes aliens and animals lol.
Everyone understood what was meant by that, but only you got triggered.
See the comment above.
YOU are responsible for YOUR triggers!
The world will not walk around you on eggshells, just because you have some triggers in you.
Growing up means realizing that it is your responsibility for how you react to everything in life.
You think it is Dreamās field that has caused your reactions, so it makes sense that you would project onto him.
As you said it yourself, you think āyou were being punishedā for somethingā¦
While it makes no sense for the most humble person in the world to punish you in the first place.
Which clearly means that it is a story your ego invented for yourself to play the victim card.
What do all woke people and socialist have in common?
They are always in self-proclaimed victim mode and trying to play the victim card.
Donāt be one of them, especially if you canāt stand them.
By playing the victim card yourself, you are only copying their behavior, which may come from your strong antin-wokeness perception filter, because the mind builds many of its beliefs by observing and copying its environment.
āAnd when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into youā
ā Niezsche
This is a clear expansion of projection.
Once you decided that that one field was āforcing youā, your ego automatically raised suspicion with all the other fields as well, expanding the projection now onto more fields.
The fact that you say you get those āwokeā effects from other unrelated fields as well, is another proof that you are projecting.
The only way where this would not be true, would be in the case if you āare really punished by an external forceā, but as mentioned above, that makes no sense here and is extremely unlikely.
I understand that this is your current conclusion.
We are here to tell you that many of us have come to different conclusions.
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Hey, I can understand you getting frustrated and hope you can find some solace from your issues. Now I do want to give some perspective regarding your issue.
When multiple people report the same experience with a field, it usually points to something in the field itself. But when itās just one person, it often has more to do with how our own mind and body are interacting with it. A lot of that comes down to our beliefs, boundaries, and triggers.
From what youāve shared, it seems like certain words or ideasā¦ especially anything you perceive as āwokeā really set you off. For example, Dream saying āpeople with wombsā for a field dedicated to them. That moment stuck with you so strongly that it colored your perception of all his work after that. And because you were already feeling offended, you began interpreting the fields through that filterā¦ so naturally your experience soured.
This isnāt to dismiss your experience at all. What Iām pointing out is that the mind is powerful, it shapes how we interpret energy, people, even reality itself. If your mental filter is primed to see āwokenessā as an attack, then every time you sense something that remotely resembles it, your system reacts as if itās being forced on you. That reaction then becomes part of the experience itself.
I get that you donāt want ideology pushed on you. But sometimes itās not the field doing the pushingā¦ itās our own inner resistance creating that exact feeling.
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But now hereās what really worries meā¦ so many men are getting stuck in this sort of loop thatās damaging to their spirit.
I understand how it started. For years, society shamed men, and there was a reactionā¦ a movement to reclaim confidence and masculinity. But it went too far. Influencers began preaching hyper-masculinity and anti-āwokeā rhetoric, and what began as strength turned into fragility.
Because now, after years of conditioning, many menās brains are wired to be triggered every time they see something that looks remotely āwoke.ā But hereās the ironyā¦ the movement that was supposed to toughen men up has made them hypersensitive. What began as a rejection of sensitivity has become a hyper-sensitivityā¦ with men walking through life angry, defensive, miserable because āwokenessā is everywhere.
And the saddest part is that empathy and compassion are now being labeled āwoke.ā But as men, weāre made of both masculine and feminine energies. Our masculine gives us willpower, structure, and strengthā¦ our feminine gives us creativity, emotional depth, and connection. Without that balance, men lose their humanity. They lose the ability to truly connect with others.
And what happens then? Women sense the repulsion. The only women who engage with men stuck in these ideologies are those drawn to the money or the statusā¦ reinforcing the very stereotypes men have been fed about women being schemers. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And all the while, genuine, loving connection slips further away.
The truth is, these ideologies are breaking the male psyche. They create men who are cut off from their own compassion, trapped in bitterness and repulsed by the very energies that could heal them.
I donāt say this out of judgment. I say it out of concern for the next generation of boys, who are growing up watching these influencers. If we donāt fix this, theyāll inherit the same brokenness. And thatās something we canāt afford.
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I guess I donāt really have anything substantive to addā¦
But, to try and give some representation to Dreamās views (albeit rather in vain, since I can only speak for myself and my interpretations), I donāt think he can be accused of wokeness.
He seemed to be critical at times of wokenessā¦ I think I recall seeing the phrasing āwoke shitā used on at least one occasionā¦ and phrasing that seemed to present the concept of āwokeā as a negative thing on another occasion.
Regardless, a lot of alternative spirituality has roots that go back to the 60ās and the New Age movement. Many aspects have had a strong feminist element, and later many aspects had a strong social justice element which was later extrematized and turned into the āwokeā things of today. --So it was/is a non-trival part of the market that these products are naturally linked to.
So, straight up, I think woke ideology is bullshit. But, I let people think and do what they want.
But the specific deal with the womb field, I think, was taken out of context. I think the entire phrasing for the field description emerged as a result of one or more people taking issue with the use of more traditional gender phrasing in fields.
People approach fields from a wide variety of backgrounds, and too many seem to think that Dream (since heās psychic) needs to know every nuance that they approve or disapprove of. āSince he had been repeatedly harassed for things like that, he took a very constrained use of language.
It may have seemed like he was advocating a woke idea, but the sense that I have is that he was trying to make a field that would help people and he was grimacing through the phrasing. I think, without a doubt, he wanted to give general respect to the diversity of views out there. But, also, he was attempting to appease the highly vocal peanut gallery (the people overly concerned with words) so they wouldnāt lobby to have it removed because of the perceived ideas they disapproved of.
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This.
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Damn, next thing you know ordering a caramel macchiato is damaging to men. To hell with this woke shit! Bring me my strong black coffee
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