Depression as part of the fight/flight/immobilization response

I stumbled upon a very interesting article about depression not being a disease but a part of the fight/flight/immobilization response.

Excerpts from the article:

Immobilization has an important role. It dulls pain and makes us feel disconnected. Think of a rabbit hanging limply in the fox’s mouth: that rabbit is shutting down so it won’t suffer too badly when the fox eats it. And the immobilization response also has a metabolic effect, slowing the metabolism and switching the body to ketosis. Some doctors speculate that this metabolic state could help healing in severe illness.

In humans, people often describe feeling “out of their bodies” during traumatic events, which has a defensive effect of cushioning the emotional shock. This is important because some things are so terrible, we don’t want people to be fully present when they happen.

So the immobilization response is a key part of the biological defense, but it is ideally designed to be short term. Either the metabolic shut down preserves the organism, i.e. the rabbit gets away, or the organism dies and the fox eats the rabbit.

But if the threat continues indefinitely and there is no way to fight or flee, the immobilization response continues. And since the response also changes brain activity, it impacts how people’s emotions and their ability to solve problems. People feel like they can’t get moving physically or mentally, they feel hopeless and helpless. That’s depression.

According to Porges, what we call depression is the cluster of emotional and cognitive symptoms that sits on top of a physiological platform in the immobilization response. It’s a strategy meant to help us survive; the body is trying to save us. Depression happens for a fundamentally good reason.

And that changes everything. When people who are depressed learn that they are not damaged, but have a good biological system that is trying to help them survive, they begin to see themselves differently. After all, depression is notorious for the feelings of hopelessness and helplessness. But if depression is an active defense strategy, people may recognize they are not quite so helpless as they thought.

If depression is the emotional expression of the immobilization response, then the solution is to move out of that state of defense. Porges believes it is not enough to simply remove the threat. Rather, the nervous system has to detect robust signals of safety to bring the social state back online.

@El_Capitan_Nemo, I thought that could be an interesting lead for fields targeting depression and anxiety.

And, for anyone stuck in this immobilization response, this could be useful knowledge :heart:

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i guess amygdala field for that.

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Ego + all-purpose anxiety removal (LEGIT feel like people are overlooking these two.) Been looping these two for a couple weeks now. Tremendous change in my day to day life.

Add some amygdala and you’re good!

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Oh thanks but I’m ok, I was just sharing the information :hugs:

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i am depressed beacuse when i see my mother and father getting old , i want to have fun & happiness with them but they don’t understand this feelings or they have it with someone else as form of something they think it happiness they distract themselves with things i don’t like , i love life and they hate everything about “seeing” life . . i can’t find a good partner or friends , speaking of Friends the death of matthew perry made me depressed & sad …the idea of losing people too death , so much for me … its sad that my twenties was so not good i was the only beautiful thing in my life ,
i just need to see the light again , and i know i am light but i need to see it in others / with others.

I understand your pain, i get with your posts that you are very sensitive, that is good in a world that seems so closed off at times or lately more lets say.

When we are highly sensitive we have to create habits to one, protect ourselves from not sinking to the bottom feeling defeated when the world gets too much to bear, or from others that like to use and abuse the kindness from people like you.

But primarily its a must for us to work on understanding and accepting that not everybody sees life and things with the same lens and heart we do, that is the key to live content while being a part of a family, community, relationship and world.

We cant go around crying internally expecting others to love and care like us, to want them to understand and adjust to our needs so WE can be happy.

That is a big need yes, but what about them? What about their choices? What about their needs?

Then is when we need to wear other people’s shoes, they might not fit at all but those are their shoes and when we start to respect that, that is how they are, how they chose to be and their personal process and story, our kindness and empathy should be extended in that direction as well, even if we disagree with them. They are their own persona and unfortunately how they live is how they want to live or at least how they think they want to live.

It takes time but its a must if you want to be happy, to grow that scared hyper sensitive inner child that lives in us, because thats pretty much how empaths and highly sensitive people are. The heart did not grow up, it stayed as the one of a child and that is why is so difficult to live amongst fully grown up people, because they dont have the hope and wonder of a child anymore, so we go around throwing tantrums internally or externally, just like a child would when not getting the world they have designed in their minds as how it should be.

Believe me, im not judging you, i have the same heart and its been a long and sometimes painful and disappointing process but i have found balance while i keep pushing until i find the comfortable place where i can def have my childs heart to love and care non stop and spread it around while keeping it connected to a mature mind. Its the mind that needs to be strong and mature, dont change your heart because youd become resentful, frustrated and irritable.

If youd like to start a process to reach that point i can recommend you: (ill type the names only im kinda busy right now and you just go search for their post and find them)

Pure Magnetic Heart Coherence #1 for sure
Detachment
Ego dissolution
Devil in Reverse
Heart Throbbing (from the Mandelbrot Album)
New Perspectives

Anger Management (even if you dont show yourself as angry believe me when we complain about the world or people not living like we would like the inner child is the one very angry)

Self love and acceptance (because you gotta protect the way you feel and see life at all cost instead of turning into a grumpy closed off person to fit the standard of how others live)

Emotional Mastering Protocol

Primal Urges

Emotional Release

Quantum Love (so you can hook others to that vibe of love for EVERYTHING and everybody)

Resilience

If i think of more ill come and edit it.

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Thank You , very much …

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