This thread is wild 
Imma take it a sign to go play the Zero Point Field it’s been a week or so since I did 
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Telling you what to do would be “delete this.” Suggesting because you are painting with a broad brush that impacts many is “you should delete this.”
You’re doubling down.
I will share a few benefits in a bit.
I’ve been with Dream’s fields since 2014 and still predominately use his fields.
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Ok, just a couple notes on my experiences with EWFAE and other creators in general, with the caveat that if Sammy/Rose/Doc/ or any other moderators wish to delete, that is fine. It is your home, and your right to.
As far as me being fishy, you’re trying to goad me into perhaps losing my temper so that you have another data point by which to disregard this creator for making people crazy. I know in my own life, over 50 years of it, that I’ve done my best to always act with integrity. Many on this board who know me better would agree, including Sammy and some of the moderators, and I feel that my spouse, kids, friends and co-workers would also agree.
In any event, I am an internet stranger to you, so believe as you wish.
On the negative side, personal opinion, I’ll say that some of the descriptions this creator has are vague, and even when I’ve emailed the creator for clarification, the explanation has not often helped. This is true for all creators, even Dream. The issue is less to do with them, than my personal experience and understanding. I am not on their wavelength, and therefore, what is elementary to them, I may have no context by which to base an understanding.
The creator’s Red Dragon concept, I also haven’t benefitted much. This is not dissimilar to Dream’s Tower of Power, or Dimensional pocket, whereby one can load up a bunch of fields, and in the case of Red Dragon, receive all the benefits at once.
Where I have benefited is on three key fields that I use regularly.
ZP Supreme I use nearly daily….I don’t listen to anything daily quite frankly as I believe one should wash out occasionally. There are days I listen to nothing, including the last three days. I find this one to be the most profound meditative experience of any fields I’ve tried. It is expensive, of course, but not more than I’ve paid on the second hand market here for a few items. What “benefits” does one quantifiably get from a profound meditative experience? Equanimity, I suppose is key. I also occasionally plan out my day via visualization, whilst using ZP, particularly how to address unpleasant situations that may be coming up, and inevitably, things seem to work out well when I do this.
There is a field the creator has related to Prosperity for Entrepreneurs. I’ve had that since February, and month over month, compared to our prior year, my gym is doing 25-40% higher revenue. Yes, we’ve introduced some new services by which to do so. I feel I was led to those services, and following through on them, soon after I began working with this field.
Cryptic Kingship is another that I’ve been using a few times a week, since early July. So, it’s only been about five weeks, but when I use it, I see that I receive a surprising amount of respect in face to face interactions, particularly at my day job. Yesterday, as an example, I was approached to apply for a role well above my current. I quite frankly have no desire to go for that role. My desire is to keep building the gym. I’ve been in the day job for more than 20 years and have already moved up further than I ever thought I would.
Now, the usual disclaimer….while I don’t spam hundreds of fields per day, I still use a dozen or so, on most days, and so it would be impossible for me to say X field is the chief instigator of these results. I also listen to a few subliminals, and most of the rest of the fields I use are Dream’s.
Overall, I seem to respond better to psychological-oriented fields, and the energy one’s (chi, Jing, shen). Physical fields tend not to work well with me, so far, after many years of dabbling.
There are other fields I use by the creator, albeit irregularly. In many ways, I am intuitive with what I listen to each day.
I guess this is why I need to get back to doing a Journal to more properly track. The issue with journals is it takes a lot of time to precisely document what one is doing/has done, and I’d rather use that time to actually “do” things.
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You are my idol
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thank you so much i’ll add them 
by three treasures you mean chi,jing,shen right?
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Yes he does
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thanks 
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Hmmm… Question,
For those of us that know better than to jump to conclusions — when it is not the subconscious causing a field user to have extreme dark, negative, and hellish experiences when using another creator’s work, what say you?
I’ve stayed away from discussing my own experiences with this, however I’ve mulled it over for a few weeks now.
I’ll use my own examples here.
Outside of fields, I’ve encountered a masterful individual who cloaks in the light but work in the dark. In my experience with them, my warning bells sounded off the bat. I won’t go into detail because it’s unimportant.
With this individual, I realized I had to immediately cut ties and leave once I began receiving hellish visions of demons, dark entities and astral critters when we would gather in a group for travel.
Once I cut travel, it took months to peel this individuals involvement from every part of my being. They also infiltrated my sleep space — before I cut ties, and afterwards.
A year later and I still find small pieces here and there.
About two years ago I listened to a popular field creator for about a month. After looping one of their videos, I felt a huge frantic cord being attached to me with their energy imprint, draining me. I disconnected, eliminated every one of their videos in my playlist, and never listened to them again.
Alternatively, I befriended another masterful individual who utilized zero point energy in his creations. His creations felt like “the void” and some people incorrectly received that to mean he was evil with dark intentions.
I have had trickster entities approach me, cloaked with the energy signature of someone I know. This also happened with the zero point friend. I’m pretty good at discerning a trickster. I informed him of the happening, and he relayed to me that he had been accused multiple times of attacking people in the way I experienced the trickster entity, but to his dismay, he said, most of those people didn’t use critical thinking to recognize it was not him.
It’s a murky topic that requires careful attunement to recognize where the actual truth lies.
The subconscious can create MASSIVE story, and tricksters are great at, well, trickery. But, there are also trickster field creators out there… it’s just not wise to immediately and confidently point fingers.
This is why I stick to Sapien Medicine, integrity is woven in and throughout. There’s no question.
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What’s the creators popular name, that you didn’t have a good experience? I think knowing this before hand, who is trustworthy or not can make things safer for others who may fall into this unsafe creators.
But if we use Dream’s fields, wouldn’t we be protected from most of the possible damage?
If I knew it isn’t myself “creating” those experiences, then I’d knew I’m wrecked. And I’d have no hesitation pointing fingers. I know it would most likely fall on deaf ears, but welp.
What could I do to these guys? They are far too powerful for me. But they’d probably attack in a way that stops me from changing their reputation. That’s something I probably could still do.
And besides that I guess my life from that point would be about healing the damage they caused and disconecting from them fully. They’re too powerful to do anything else. They can do it and they do it. I think no matter their power or tricks they know, eventually they’d experience the consequences, or their entire business would be wiped out.
There are only 4 creators that are popular afaik and one is Dream so…tough luck. At least, I never got around to listening to them much, but I guess I have some huge cord on me now.
How do you know it was the creator’s intention and not some other spirit using their fields as a trojan horse to deflect anything coming their way to that creator? Since it seems some entities/beings can go around any field protections. I know someone for whom fields don’t work including Dream’s and it is out of protection.
Well, for those of us that can’t perceive any of it, all we have is the outward perception of these creators. At this point I’d say a good creator should be someone pretty cynic about people and this world. And I’d stay away from those that are all “love and light”…but there’s like none like that actually.
“Effectiveness is the measure of truth”, or so they say in Huna.
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I have been going to psychics and might be getting bad consequences from getting readings. （eg influences from evil spirits）
Please give me suggestions to remove them.
Thank you.
Can anyone share their opinion on LnL Awakening?
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I no longer remember the creator’s name. They were unfamiliar to me to begin with, I saw they were popular and decided to give them a try. But I haven’t had success in recalling. It might ring a bell to see video titles.
Even then, it would be preferable if there were some anonymous tip jar, lol. I know better than to speak loosely about these things
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I suppose that depends on what protection fields you’re utilizing/what kind and when they’re active.
Even then, some attacks happen in spite of protection if the attacker is wily enough. Requiring various modes of defense and offense. IMO it’s best to be shielded up, protected, and discerning.
There are only 4 creators that are popular afaik and one is Dream so…tough luck. At least, I never got around to listening to them much, but I guess I have some huge cord on me now.
My story is not to make you assume you’re targeted, but it’s good to be aware and make sure of the legitimacy of those you listen to!
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That’s the other thing, things of these nature can easily be waved away as a trick of the mind… even discussing this is uncomfortable for me, because there are so many “possibilities” of how one could perceive what happened with that creator I listened to. I know what I experienced, and that’s all I can go off of. Another individual could be a listener for years and not have the same experience as me. That in itself makes claims, questionable.
Drift, I just noticed you edited your comment with another question for me:
How do you know it was the creator’s intention and not some other spirit using their fields as a trojan horse to deflect anything coming their way to that creator? Since it seems some entities/beings can go around any field protections. I know someone for whom fields don’t work including Dream’s and it is out of protection.
Through an energetic process of investigating the source. You can determine exactly what you’ve asked through careful/thorough scrutinization utilizing the aspects of your “Self”, does that make sense?
Thats what occurred for me at that time.
Well, for those of us that can’t perceive any of it, all we have is the outward perception of these creators. At this point I’d say a good creator should be someone pretty cynic about people and this world. And I’d stay away from those that are all “love and light”…but there’s like none like that actually.
Well the cynic occurs after times of being burned, lol! The cynic may have been a creator excited to share value with the world at first, and then pummeled by perceptions 
In this digital world it’s even more pertinent for others to learn to access their innate sense and “check” the fields against their outward perception, things are so easily manipulated these days. It is a process but it may cut back on incorrect perceptions and being targeted. But yes, I think ZPF was aware of these things and, although disappointed, he did not take it so personally
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Hello friends, can I ask you a question? Is The Healer servitor still active? I couldn’t find the topic.
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This is what Equilibrium said in his discord:
“Also for those who had access to the healer servitor they will retain it but there will be no more access to new folks who never accessed it before. I might only consider giving access to a few upon request but that’s it. As you know all the threads and posts from third party vendor in sapien medicine has been deleted which also includes that thread as well. And I am not going to write all of that description and info all over again. So it’s pretty much gone for few people as there’s no instructions to follow and what it does etc.”
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Thank you, So it’s still active for us, right?
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Yeah I can still feel its energy somewhat
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