what will be the time ?
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Not yet
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Hey Sammy, please send me an invite
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Got the invite
he is sending them now it seems.
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Did it already start?
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Yes!
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Really Enjoyed it, although I find it easier to express through text(ing) - Thank You, Sammy, You Are The Best Host and Thank You Everyone for this Pleasant Evening (it’s now 11:19 P.M. In E. Europe).
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And thanks for joining in and being you man. You have great positive energy.
As for everyone else, thanks for joining in as well and making a controversial topic into a delightful and respectful one where it never got out of hand and we all learned something from eachother. Was more pleasant than I expected!
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I now kinda regret doing 5 things simultaneously :D
It was great to hear you, guys.
Getting involved with guy/girl even when not feeling attraction/connection and having doubts about the person, that is a topic we could rly continue here, lol.
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Forgot to respond to this but yeah, I think this may apply mostly to younger guys with little to no experience. I think when you’re older, you have a better idea of what you want in life and shouldn’t settle for what you don’t want.
That being said, I do think a lot of young guys become programmed with porn in a way that makes them only sexually stimulated by those standards set by porn. Now as a man, and this is just me talking man talk, but sex with just about any woman is almost always better than masturbating and is straight up awesome and fun. Big girls too, any race, or face, it’s a dance and you get better at the dance the more you dance it (if you learn to communicate, and give as well as you recieve).
But anyways, I think life often attracts opportunities into many peoples lives without them even noticing. I am talking about the girl that likes you, that you have great chemistry with… that you aren’t sexually attracted to. Often such people in your life match you energetically. In some cases, the same way you don’t find her sexually attractive, other people probably don’t find you sexually attractive. We tend to attract what we are.
So my suggestion was that sometimes it’s worth taking that chance. Chemistry with a person can make that person the most beautiful person in your eyes. There is also so much you will learn from being with someone… about what you actually want out of relationship, what your love language is, the kind of person you are in relationships, how to properly communicate with a partner, ext… But most of all, sometimes you end up falling for that person and them for you. I’ve seen it happen many times. And well, happened to me several times 
(current relationship was her giving me a chance cause of our chemistry)
In fact, that’s how I got experience in high school. Decided I want to learn and settled to date a girl… I did not like lol. But ended up in a relationship for a year and learned a lot about myself and I’m sure she learned a lot too. Now, I know this sounds messed up cause it seems like I’m telling people to use people for experience. Especially if they really like you and expect things to go further.
But all I’m saying is sometimes consider giving these opportunities that pop into our lives, a chance. It can lead to growth and maybe very fruitful relationships. Now obviously, I understand sexual attraction is very important. If you can’t see someone a certain way, then it might almost feel like you’re forcing it. So, this advice isn’t universal and definitely shouldn’t be applied in every situation. It’s technically bad advice lmao 
It really is and you shouldn’t take it if it just doesn’t feel right.
But, I only went into this because I’ve seen it happen many times in life, personal experience and well, I came to learn that it’s quite obvious that sometimes, the universe attracts these kinds of people into our lives for us to potentially embrace and have amazing relationships with. But we just end up too blinded by our own standards to see it. Use your intuition wisely.
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This always buffles me and I never understood this.
For me personally, I only find around 5-10% of women attractive and thus would potentially only have sex with those that I find attractive.
If I do not find her attractive, I would prefer masturbation every time.
Having sex with someone I find repulsive is not “fun” and is not better than masturbating.
Especially in the age of high-end sex toys…
It is impossible for me to get aroused if I feel disgust.
In fact, having sex with someone you find repulsive is a form of unconscious self-rape which comes from being traumatized in the first-place.
I was wondering about this my whole life of why I am not like most men (aka willing to stick their willy into anything) and it seems that I am functioning more like women who also only find around 5% of men actually attractive and would rather be single than settle for a guy they find repulsive. 
Now I have also observed that most men seem to have no standards when it comes to women and would have sex with any women at any given opportunity.
I think it all comes down to low sexual self-esteem and trauma that allows the hormones and limbic brain to play wild and completely take over.
The hormones and the limbic brain do not care about your standards, they are just programmed to procreate the species at all cost.
So when someone is traumatized and low self-esteem, they allow for the biological program to take over.
There is no “veto” from Subsconscious Mind if it believes that you don’t deserve anything better.
Probably because of this, we have a strong simp culture in our society.
Most men would do anything to get laid.
Every girl, regardless how she looks, gets hundreds of likes when she posts a selfie on social media.
Most men are so desperate, it is disgusting by itself.
They are sacrificing all their dignity to receive just a little bit of sexual validation from anything female.
They have no standards when it comes to women.
They tolerate anything when it comes to women.
All to just get laid with someone who isn’t even healthy in most cases.
Or just to get a tap on the head like their Mama did it to them when were “a good boy”.
Then they wonder why they are treated as dispensable by women, the companies they work for, the society etc.
And women wonder where the “real men” have gone since most men act like simps and push-overs.
That’s all just my personal experience.
Sorry if this offends someone, because if it does, then again, it all comes down to fixing your self-esteem and heal your traumas.
Your level of self-esteem is how your Subconscious Mind will determine of what is good enough for you and what not.
Completely disagree on this.
Never settle for less than what you actually desire.
Never engage in behavior that triggers natural disgust.
Fix your self worth.
Do not make dumpster dives in the hopes of finding a hidden treasure down there.
And about having chemistry with someone, in my opinion, you either have it when you first meet, or you don’t.
“Chemistry developed afterwards” is often just backward rationalization of two people coming together who were too lazy to explore other options and sticked to each other.
Exactly! 
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Well, I don’t think he meant like try it with any woman. It was just an example, for some ppl “big women” wouldn’t be as big of an issue as for you. He rather meant when a woman is rather fine, maybe not a model, but is okay, is decent in looks. So I would say he probably meant some rather mild widening your standards as opposed to having it as thin as statistical error.
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I mean, who knows really?
Might as well just have been orchestrated by the higher self.
Sometimes I did think I had used people
Sometimes I felt they used me.
Its all ok, its all good. Its all lessons somehow.
But truth be told, even sex with unattractive ones were / are better than masturbation, no?
But unattrative is clearly not the same as disgusting. To me at least.
You don’t need to.
You can take this as a stepping stone to actually realize what you do want
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I’m actually in agreement for the most part man. Like I said, it’s technically bad advice but I’m speaking moreso to guys way younger than we are. I don’t think people should settle for what they don’t want. But younger guys don’t know what they want or who they are or what kind of lover they are, ext… and sometimes the universe attracts opportunities our way to learn these things.
Sometimes being a yes man allows the universe to actually work its magic in our lives. Especially when you are young and don’t know anything. We are just learning after all and none of us are gaining any sexual confidence or knowledge from sitting around masturbating. In fact, it’s setting most guys up to be minute men.
But yeah, I didn’t say to take a chance with girls you’re repulsed by. That’s a strong word and that’s not at all what I meant. Moreso, someone you really connect with and that is into you but you’re not into sexually. If you mesh well with someone’s energy or are even atrracted to their emergy and not physical, that chemistry often translates very well in the bedroom.
And well, to me personally, I don’t find sex to be that big of a deal. The universe is sex 24/7. Everything is exchanging energy and in the lighter realms, everything is merging into and out of eachother. It’s all sex. It’s all dance. But that’s just me. I definitely understand why people take it quite seriously (stds, sexual trauma, getting judged, ext…).
I grew up dancing reggaeton/bachata/merengue and I wouldn’t only dance with the girls I was physically attracted to. I’d dance with anyone in rhythm. Sex is a dance and when you vibe with someone, you’re already merging with them rather deeply. Sex is just taking the dance to an ever deeper and more pleasurable level.
And the more you do it, more you learn your style. The more you gain sexual confidence.
You say most guys are willing to stick it in anyone but I just don’t see that. Only when they hit college and get drunk at frat parties. That’s the guys penises doing the thinking for them. I’m speaking of making conscious choices.
I think it might be a cultural thing though. Like, bigger girls tend to be ignored but the blacks and hispanics I grew up around didn’t say no to having some fun. And with experience, you learn to dance and find more comfort expressing your attraction to people you are actually into.
That’s a very important thing I rarely hear talked about. If you don’t want a casual relationship with the people you are actually attracted to, you have to be able to express your sexual attraction rather confidently. That confidence is rarely if ever going to be developed without any sort of experience.
And some guys never get the experience because they chase girls outside of their league without ever elevating their confidence to meet that league’s standards. It’s possible but many these guys aren’t really putting in the work or getting much if any experience to do so.
As for limbic system theory, although I think that’s likely accurate in some cases… I don’t think that’s always true. In the same way people find masturbating to porn fun or dancing with people fun, sex is also a very fun activity. Not everyone just wants to have sex with just anyone because they have low self esteem. I think that’s ridiculous. Fun is fun. Pleasure is pleasure.
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Yeah… I’m not saying lower your standards to the point you’re picking up meth heads on the side of the road lmao. Just saying consider lowering your standards for the people you deeply connect with or that want to have fun with you.
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I need to ask this:
Is it fair that you have to pay (to) your ex (is it alimony? Idk the term)?
This is the law in certain european countries (maybe in America too?) where feminism is too powerful; if/since women are our equals, why pay them, especially after breaking up (i’m not talking about kids)?
Are they not independent?
How do you guys find this?
I even heard that you have to pay her for life?!
I dont know if that is accurate though.
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IMHO society is really slow when it comes to laws.
My advice is do not get married. Ever.
Marriage is a way in which the state regulates procreation and bonds between people.
I don’t trust the state to do that lol.
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Me neither. 
Us: I have a nice relationship with that woman.
The State: OUR Relationship
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with you and that woman lol, and We dictate the terms.
The True Alpha Male, The State!
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