Dive Deep: Male & Female Dynamic (3/2/22 - 1 PM EST)

Never trust the state or the government with your future.

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Truly horrible practice/laws, I mean slavery, it’s supposedly abolished, but not if you can’t pay your ex wife…

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Slavery was never abolished.

It is was moved into the financial system and entertainment industry.

People are being kept down with overly high taxation, inflation, extra complex laws and cheap dopamine distractions (hollywood, netflix, porn, fast food, shopping sprees etc.).

This way they are stealing people’s income (momentum that they would need in order to live off dividends), stealing people’s time (pointless entertainment) and stealing people’s ambition (cheap dopamine, loss of energy, unhealthy food).

All of this is done on purpose to keep people in the artificial rat race.
Always distracted and always numbed and brain-fogged.
Always low energy and always distracted.
Always misinformed and always without any real financial leverage.

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Funny thing about it is, on SR I was getting so much attraction but was so uninterested too many low vibrational women. Porn addict version is totally different i also felt far less “lonely” despite having the same ammount of friends. I think I’ll go monk mode for a while.

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Guys,
What are ways to let men know you are seriously not interested in them. In the slightest. Even when
(1) you give one worded replies, make it clear, but they still
show up, won’t shut up, and you’re getting tired of being polite.
I don’t want to be mean but I’m at a loss,
They really don’t get the message.

would it be so cruel as to block them - I want them out of my orbit for good.

Did you 100% say “I’m not interested, stop messaging me.”? Because that would work for a lot of guys. But if you did blocking them wouldn’t be cruel. If you just sent signs or signals, a good percentage of men wouldn’t know how to decipher it as they lack experience with women. Another good percentage are stalkerish and desperate, so they will try to force themselves by going the extra mile. Not responding period or saying “I’m not interested, please stop messaging me” should work.

I say something along the lines of this, 2 parts-

Thank you for messaging me/ the lovely compliment (if they have messaged a few times)
or
I appreciate you asking me on a date/coming up to me (when they ask for number in public)

But I am not interested, thank you
But I am not interested in continuing this connection/date /conversation, thank you.

Tysm you two
I have.

if he messages again I’m just deleting
him,
it can’t get anymore clearer than that

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I remember some time ago when I was still in high school, my grandad (god rest his soul) once told me that the worst thing a woman could ever say to you is ‘leave me alone’. I kind of think it’s the inference behind it that hits home the most.

:thinking::thought_balloon:… even today I still don’t know what he means by that.

I’m not saying you should say that but it kind of depends on the man really. Either way every man is going to be hurt by your decline no matter how you say it, so you might as well say the above as I don’t think it will make a difference to be honest. You could always lie to these guys and say you’ve got a boyfriend already which isn’t as bad.

(not sure if this is visible to public, might try find the YT link)

I have no good feelings about this video. Especially with some extreme examples he gives. Here is a quote from the video “On the men’s side. You can be as much of a fuck up, unhealed shithead that you want. If you want happiness with a woman, pick a woman who is even a bigger shithead than you, pick a woman who is worse than you, pick a woman who is dummer than you, pick a woman who is more wounded than you. So that this really damaged woman looks up to you.” This is when he lost me. Of course he is saying this to get a point across. But come on, what kind of example is this?

Some thoughts: why make a relationship between a man and woman about who is in charge and who is the leader?

And why ask the men to be the leaders and be better than women? If anyone should step up their game, it should be all of us - no matter the gender! If we all work on becoming the best version of ourselves (and I think especially our community here in the forum is interested in personal and spiritual growth), wouldn’t this improve relationships over all? Don’t put this high expectation on just one gender!

It’s true that someone who leads should, in the ideal case scenario, be wiser, more experienced, more compassionate, more reasonable and skilled in what he (or she) is doing. (Wish we would also see this in our politicians). But asking men to fulfill this leadership role in a relationship puts a lot of pressure on men, especially if the expectation is to be “better” in multiple categories.

What attracts me as a woman to a man isn’t exactly him being better than me. Rather I’m attracted to masculine qualities among many other aspects. What mostly attracts me isn’t even easily categorized as “male”. What I want to say with this is, I don’t need my partner to be my leader in order to feel happy and attracted to him.

I think the key to a happy and healthy relationship is collaboration and not competition as in who is the best. If you think of a leader you most likely will associate someone being the head of a group and leading multiple people. If you think of a couple, as in two people in a relationship then that makes me think of a team. And what makes a good team? Each team member brings in their skills, knowledge and qualities into the dynamic. A successful team respects each member and knows the strengths and weaknesses of each other and the team members step up when their skills are required and usually take turns in taking charge and also keep supporting and learning from each other. A team gives me the association of equality and a feeling of closeness. In the dynamic of a leader and a follower you get the sense of a gap between the two of them and that the one “higher up” should be more in command and more respected.

Now, this is purely my personal experience and opinion: don’t go into a relationship asking yourself who is better and who should have the authority. Women and men are different so they can complete each other. If you feel like there needs to be a leader, then they can take turns in being in the lead, depending on their strengths and weaknesses.

Here are some words that I can relate with from the book “Closer to Love - How to attract the right relationships and deepen your connections” by Vex King: “True love feels like freedom, emotional liberation, a chance to be loved exactly as you are and to love another for exactly who they are.”

So, if we don’t think about who is the best in various categories, what could we focus on instead? Why not focus on what is the best for our partner? And how can we support our partner in various categories to reach their best potential? Wouldn’t you wish to receive the same love and support?

„The real kind of love never quits. Someone who loved you would do what’s best for you; they’d stand up for you and sacrifice. Someone who loved you would face any inconvenience willingly. You didn’t know what love was until someone was willing to give up what they loved the most for you.“

I highly can recommend to read “Closer to love”. It’s a fantastic book and taught me a lot about a healthy and loving relationship. I can already tell you the core advice of this book: it all comes down to self-love and inner healing.

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These are focused on polarity relationships.

Much of women’s physical attraction to a man is when she respects him and admires him. All the women I have ever had conversations with on this topic (which is many) all admit that when they don’t respect him and admire him, their physical attraction to him diminishes, even dissipates completely (note: this is not basic human respect, this is a different kid of respect).

That respect and admiration are deep innate drivers in feminine beings nature. Often unconscious and subconscious drivers that women are afraid to admit. What is wrong with desiring a competent, capable man?

Everyone wants to be loved “as they are”… and in many cases this leads to people never doing the inner work, never stepping up, never fulfilling even a little of their potential. And continuing low consciousness behaviour and patterns. We are in a sad world of mediocrity.

Women and men are not equal. Never have been and never will be.
They are complements. But equals, never.

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Perfect quote imo
We need to complement one another to strive together

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Man, how times have changed, and obviously not for the better, when it comes to income and value of the money…

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i agree.

according to psychoanalisis, men who seek to lead and be #1 all the time are insecure and negate symbolic castration, which makes them even more castrated and submissive to authority (because they resist it).

if you don’t care who’s leading and you feel free to let anyone take the lead including yourself you’re on top of your game.

trying to coerce women into your leadership is just a childish move as a man.

Esther Vilar’s books provide great insights on these topics.
Her books are from the 70ies but still fully up to date.
She is a German author and her content was so controversial and triggering that she had to flee to South America in order to not get killed by feminists.

https://www.google.com/search?q=esther+vilar+books+english&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=565946763&ei=UeYFZbzLItuhi-gPq7G4qA0&ved=0ahUKEwj8t4it1K-BAxXb0AIHHasYDtUQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=esther+vilar+books+english&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGmVzdGhlciB2aWxhciBib29rcyBlbmdsaXNoMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFI6BJQ8wVYmw1wAXgBkAEAmAGlAaABjAeqAQM0LjS4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIKEC4YigUYsAMYQ8ICBhAAGBYYHsICCBAhGBYYHhgdwgIHECEYoAEYCuIDBBgAIEGIBgGQBgU&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1

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I think that in the end the person that ends up leading is the person with the greater manifestational power over their personal reality, which comes down to personal level of self esteem and self love.

The person with the most self love is the most “alpha” or the “leader” because others naturally, out of their free will, decide to look up to and follow someone who already deeply loves themselves.

You are right, true leadership cannot be enforced because it is a sign of low self-esteem. True leadership comes from naturally inspiring others to follow you.

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yea, authority and resistance to authority comes from a place of lack, fear and power dynamics.

psychoanalisis does not explore high vibration because its concern is low vibration and how it determines us and affects mental illnesses.

although it could find some useful tools if it did. sadly most psychoanalitic thinkers are also trapped in lack, fear and power, so, they can only see the world and its theory through those lenses.

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Just to put this in perspective but there were MANY people who didnt own a house in the 1940’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, etc… (in the U.S. and also worldwide) Where I grew up in NYC, we all lived in apartment buildings. (That includes all 5 boroughs.) Many people did not grow up or live in the suburbs. Apartments with only cold water in the bathroom, sleeping on bunk beds (one bed on top of another) , were common.

I finally had to post about this because I see this repeated over and over, it simply wasnt true for MANY people…

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