Well, I’ve been finding the idea of living in the end times quite convincing for a while and recently I ran into some psychics, remote viewers, gurus, etc talking about a radical change to happen in 2032.
Some of those say that the Christ principle will start Satya Yuga after ~4 years of chaos from 2028 to 2032.
Anyone heard such things and if so, what do you think?
I can’t help but think of the Ragnarok album too…
IF an external being (or Omnipotent, Quasi-Omnipotent Being or The Highest Reality Manifested or an Avatar etc.), wether Christ (I’m more familiar with the concept of Christ (since I grew up as an Orthodox Christian), although there are multiple concepts of Christ, including all kinds of literal interpretations and views based on the Bible, Christian Churches ’ Teachings, Occult Sources, New Age and Gnostic Sources and Views among them…) or another Being were to bring the End of the world, I do wonder HOW would that work and IF ANY Judgement would exist, if it would be a Reset, a softer or harder reset, I do wonder if it would be a localized event (Earth) or a bigger or even Universal event…
That’s why my personal view is this, at least now: there is no end of the world coming and at best a reset for life on Earth, although I DO Wonder IF it would even be for the best…
My idea of change is to come from WITHIN, although tbh as I’ve said previously, if I were an Omnipotent Being, the rules Would change on Earth, wars, violence and exploitation would be forbidden, humans would take their energy from the Sun and other Sources, a new evolutionary stage / level would be imposed, I would be quite Dictatorial tbh, but again, that is only and Only If Humans would stagnate and destroy themselves and Nature etc.
IF we are created after the image of an Omnipotent Creator (The Highest Reality), well if we carry that blueprint, then maybe our human impulses can also be found in a Higher Being, like Christ, so maybe He too would be Dictatorial IF we would fail to Evolve and learn to leave in peace and fail to love ourselves and others, nature etc.
(of course this is only if we think or explore the idea that there is a Christ coming to save us in the first place… Maybe no external Saviour Wil come and we are the only ones responsible for our collective fate, who knows, I do not know tbh…)
AI and future tech and social changes can be or can represent (together) a great opportunity for social change , and can be a great opportunity to improve our lives, since I still am an optimist or at least I still see the potential goodness in everything…
I need to watch some yt about those 2 references you mentioned, to be informed about their teachings, so this was/is an uninformed opinion or view, this reply of mine.
Again, IF the Divine would bring an end to suffering, evil, exploitation, current corrupt society, etc., I would welcome that, no problem on my part, however my only remark is that many newer Christian branches, especially from the USA, have constantly talked about the end of the world and advertised or promoted one date or another etc. and so far, no ending, no Messiah (Returning, according to Christian pov) etc.
Of course, the various Jewish and Muslim and other factions / faiths and also new age teachers and Hindu and other Gurus etc. also have their own ideas, expectations, beliefs about the coming of a Saviour etc.
(obviously some, and not all)
Short Answer: unfortunately (or maybe fortunately, Idk), I do not think there is any end of the world, at least not yet lol…
I don’t think the world is ending any time soon either. I have no idea of what’s to come but it does smell like chaos is brewing with AI, worsening climate change, unstable world order (dark path the US is on), social disorder from social media and so on and so on…
The issue is that a lot of what is happening right now is happening for the first time. So we haven’t really a clue. We can only guess at this point but all guesses are rather… pessimistic these days. We are already living in times of global upheaval. So it’s rather clear to me that the tensions we see rising in the world are going to eventually explode in cataclysmic ways.
As for a christlike figure to emerge around this time… I don’t know. It’s a good question to ask. We have had that happen multiple times throughout human history and we can’t undermine the level of influence just 1 person can have over billions of people. It does happen. But… in the age of social media??? Can you imagine??? Lmao, I just can’t imagine it haha.
Cause let’s be honest, if a christ like figure did appear in the world in this day and time… the amount of negative propaganda thrown at this person would be enormous. A person like that is a threat to the old world order. They’ll throw everything they can at this person and use whatever your ideology is to manipulate you to hate him/her too. No offense to most of humanity, but we are for the most part… really dumb and impressionable. A lot of people would fall for it.
Think about it… If Jesus was born in this day and age, would you believe it was him? His videos of him turning water into wine would all be decried as AI. There will be people making AI footage of him doing dumb things to discredit him as well. You’ll have fox news calling him a hippie communist. Like… lmao, it’s a funny thing to think about.
And I can’t help but think of Mamdani a bit here. Not cause he is anything like Jesus… he’s not at all. But I’m actually here in NYC and I see what he’s doing in the city and everyday, it’s becoming more apparent that he really is a genuine guy that cares for the city’s people and is doing what he can to make this overly expensive city more affordable for the working class. I don’t think he’s perfect and he has a lot left to prove but he’s off to a good start with everything he has been doing and appears to be 10x better than what we have been getting recently.
But so much of what I see in the outside world and media is painting him as someone destroying the city and evil communist or deranged muslim trying to bring sharia law to nyc lmao. And people believe it! A lot of people do.
So , that is interesting food for thought honestly, what would a christ like figure even look like in the modern age? Like how would it even work?
A question came to mind while thinking on this though… why do human spiritual traditions keep independently generating essentially the same structure?
Dark age → increasing disorder → crisis → transformation → enlightened age.
Christianity has Tribulation → Second Coming → Kingdom. Hindu traditions have Kali → Kalki → renewal of dharma/Satya.
Buddhism has degeneration of Dharma → eventual Maitreya → renewed Dharma.
Esoteric traditions turn it into planetary initiation or rising consciousness.
The intriguing question becomes whether they’re describing one metaphysical cycle through different cultural languages, whether humans naturally create this archetype whenever civilization feels unstable, or some mixture of both.
I think there is something to that cycle and we are certainly at the cusp of collective consciousness change. That said, I don’t believe in dates. 2032… I don’t buy it. I don’t think we’ll ever guess the date. I’ve heard dozens if not hundreds of predictions set around the past few years that never came to pass. I do believe that we’ll be going through major consciousness change in the next 100-300 years. Next 100 years could mean 10 years too.
That isn’t a long time at all considering the scale of planet earth’s history and human history. Massive change is inevitable with all that’s going on.
So I’d personally hold the cyclical/transformation idea much more seriously than the year 2032 itself.
All good comments. Thanks for joining the discussion, guys.
I also think that the world had many periods that felt like “the end times”. Like world wars and such.
So, on one hand, it’s quite possible that these days are just another period of challenges, but also, on the other hand, I think the real danger may be a clandestine dark order that may take place at a planetary level. The rise of AI and online feeds provide a different type of control to the people behind it, so things may be different this time… there is a chance of establishing a true totalitarian government to rule all and it may violate freedom more than ever. Even worse, an evil super AI may go rogue and harm humans in ways we can’t even imagine. Perhaps that’s when the extraterrestrial higher beings decide to intervene. Like zookeepers or wild-life researchers don’t intervene unless there is an extreme situation. Maybe we’re watched like that.
I suppose it’s like environmental seasons (winter, spring, summer, autumn), but for the collective psyche.
also, it may be like a homeostasis of the cosmic consciousness, taking action to maintain balance whenever things evolve too much in one end…
I think “the archetype” is already out there. It’s just manifesting on earthly planes like a caretaker when there is a need for it. And if you buy into the idea that all individuality is an illusion and there is only one cosmic spirit doing all this, then the archetype is simply the universe itself.
I have a feeling that’s the case… I would hope it is lol. This world becoming a totalitarian state to that degree would be a nightmare. And I’m rather sure at this point we’re being surveilled and for them to just allow that to happen… would be pretty messed up imo lol.
Agreed. Cosmic seasons makes sense as well. It’s the whole thing we always talk about… pendelum swinging left to right… life just being peaks and valleys. over and over again.
And yeah, the archetype is the universe itself. It’s definitely present already. I just wonder if in this age, it will manifest through multiple people at once or through just one person. I’m leaning towards multiple people personally. The world is a lot bigger than it was back then. I think there could be a few such incarnations at once.
Why does the human mind desire so much the certainty/knowing of what is coming? I think a lot of it is avoidance of dealing with more uncomfortable or difficult things or their own lives, so they look outward and get a bit lost in ideologies.
This is such a prominent feature of new age stuff, ever since I first started reading about spirituality people are saying/prophecising things like
“The golden age is coming” either after an in between worse part / “worlds end” or without this.
Sometimes they say that “the difference between groups is widening”, and those who are higher vibrational will ascend, others will “descend” more into material.
but the same things have been said since the 80s? Sometimes they add a bit of spice like “this information is channeled” via psychic and originates in an alien/god/demon/whatever.
but at the end of the day, the world keeps spinning, people keep eating, drinking, working, sleeping, fighting, loving, being born and dying.
You are only on this world for a limited amount of time of time.. just live your life, aim to be in alignment with your higher self and wherever that takes you, and be a decent person to the best of your abilities.
and don’t listen to whatever psychics claim to know, I really don’t think they know anything. They will have a following if the message resonate, but that doesn’t mean anything.
People really want to just follow someone, it is human nature. I think just tune inward and follow yourself and figure out your life rather than the future of humanity.
That’s my 2 cents at least, maybe is sounds a bit cynical but oh well
(And Unconditional, this was not aimed at you at all, just my general opinion about the topic)
(I wanted to reply to a quote but I forgot which one lol)
Also, again, I’ve only recently started really considering this possibility, not that I ignored it before, but I just did not focus that much on it, it could be that Earth was and will continue to be used for all sorts of purposes, and us, I mean the human species/race is caught in the games and battles and interests of beings far more developed (at least some of them if not all those who are in contact with humanity)…
There are probably parallel realities, timelines, universes, countless other different universes, many levels of consciousness, countless beings and races and groups etc.
While I do not necessarily subscribe to the prison planet theories, I do wonder if our gods or angels or those positive ets are actually genuinely caring for us, or just seeing us as we see pets or worse, some viruses lol…
Since there are so many types of beings, some material, others living only in the astral and Upper levels, etc., I can’t help but remember That old Bible saying that goes like this “And no wonder, for even Satan masquerade as an angel of light” “… Is transformed into an angel of light” (or similar translations), and that, plus some researchers using Remote Viewing (Farsight Institute, to give an example), Regressive and other types of Hypnosys, plus other methods, and them concluding that the Earth IS a prison planet and manipulated by dark entities, ets, etc. and of course some people having negative ndes etc. (the VAST majority are positive though), these sorts of things, data, experiences and opinions/views make me wonder: what the heck is going on with our world, is Terra truly used as an experimental or resources gathering planet or for other purposes etc…
Again, the data does not deny positive ets, positive Deities, Gods, Angels and other beings, but it makes me wonder about the scope and level of manipulation, in the seen and countless unseen places, realms, etc. And of course, wether that Deity pretending to be X God or Goddess is not a Reptilian or a Grey (again, probably there are many positive guys from those races or kindred ones, but those guys are notoriously present in many negative encounters, experiences etc.) or why not other entity, perhaps a demonic one etc.
I also question the so called holy books of ours, with COUNTLESS deaths, massacres, genocide after genocide, even of children and animals, and that’s why I don’t believe in any such Deity, that can NOT be the Supreme, nor even a Good one/deity, in my honest view…
And thus WHY no Saviour will come: that Saviour might just be not a Saviour at all, if those texts worshipping such saviors call for the massacre of children (the Old Testament is full of such horrors), whole towns and areas filled with “unbelievers”, etc.
Lunatic behavior on steroids…
Stalin and Hitler took notes from those “Gods”…
So, their chosen “Saviours”?
Expect them to be just as horrible…
Although again, it’s also possible that such an external Saviour or even multiple ones like Sammy said, could be all real and actually positive beings, so Idk…
If I remember correctly, in ceremonial magic angels and demons are basically the same.. like 2 sides of the same coin or opposing faces of the same power etc
(I’ve never been interested in working with entities in ceremonial magic though so I only read about it)
You know.. if you want to have some weird encounters, sit down and ask your “guardian angel” to manifest for you for some time, to have an encounter.
I did this twice, the second time a few days after I was getting off the tram and a random strangely dressed man stopped me and told me to please step onto his feet “with the aim of energy transfusion” (it was very strangely worked in my language too)
I did not lol I was spooked xD
It was something similarly weird the first time as well, and the person who recommended this to me also had strange experiences, which is why I tried
Yeah, this is how I started thinking after I very much believed the Dec 21, 2012 prophecy lol. The whole ascension thing, I fell for it. I was younger then of course but still, I don’t regret the experience. It taught me a lot.
Like, I do believe in the alternate timelines concept. I think once someone puts out a prophecy and a date of some kind that gets any kind of popularity… the collective expectations of it happening shift timelines. That’s an intuition I’ve developed over the years of very consistently seeing prophecies/dates or even just predictions not come to pass over… and over and over again.
I had hoped we’d grow out of this but humans still very much appear to lean into following individuals. To an exaggerated degree at times. We can’t seem to stray away from some of our instincts I guess? I don’t know, but in many ways, it feels like humanity hasn’t progressed much on a mental level in the past 5,000 years.
I love how universal this feeling is. That feeling of when someone close to you dies or something tragic in your life happens (you lose your job, your husband cheats on you with your mom, ext…) and your world feels like it stops. Like it genuinely feels like the end of the world. But, the cars are still driving, the sun still comes up, people blasting music ont heir radio, birds chirping and so on. Life just keeps moving and it’s a very surreal feeling. Like the world doesn’t care that you’ve lost it all. It still keeps going…
Great questions that I also think has multiple answers. It’s the sort of thing that depending on where you are looking from, the answer is probably different. In the vibrational realms of duality, where negative/positive are constantly at odds, I think that yes… this planet has been under heavy manipulation for a long time by other intelligences. A planet that harbours this much potential for life would be extremely valuable to any intelligent speciesround our galaxy.
Some of the manipulation could be positive and some negative. I think some intelligences have more empathy and more respectful regard for us while others treat us the same way we treat animals.
Now zoom out, and those intelligences are just smaller piecse of the pie to the greater picture. Greater beings that use them to play around the human game and learn and expand from it. All of it an extension of them. And when you zoom out of them, there’s something greater as well.
So, yeah it’s a matter of perspective I think. Being on the ground though, and experiencing it all for ourselves… is pretty brutal though. It does feel pretty shitty to be treated like an ant in an ant farm. But I guess that’s how animals feel about humans eh?
The other day, I ran into a video of pigs inside a truck that was extremely hot and you can see all the pigs screaming in suffering and it disturbed me how we do this type of thing to so many animals on a daily basis. It reminded me that we aren’t quite ready to travel the stars and meet other species or intelligences if we engage in this sort of thing.
That’s why I don’t eat meat for almost a decade now (around 9 years actually, but anyway), I constantly think about where that meat came from, the torture those beings endured etc.
My brother calls me crazy for actually feeling empathy lol…
That’s the level we’re dealing with, being called crazy for being vegetarian…
Romanians are crazy about meat, be it pork, chicken, lamb or beef, the people are crazy for meat, they even have a joke that the best vegetable is meat…
I did eat meat a few times though, throughout those years, heck I even enjoyed it after years of not tasting it, felt like the best thing in the world…, but overall, for the most part, no meat and I do want to keep it that way.
I don’t necessarily say I’m better than anyone who eats meat, but man, they lack compassion, like a cousin of mine (well, technically a nephew, son of a cousin) told me that he feels no remorse, no empathy whatsoever for the slaughtered souls…
But he immediately makes a switch in his head about cats and dogs though, as he loves them, and indeed I understand that, but there are places in Asia where they eat them though, no big deal for them…
I do wonder if any of the moral or spiritual rules truly matter, since at one point many people were cannibals…
Our species has a dark dark past…
Still, there is some light in the horizon, I mean human rights, abolition of slavery, animal rights (for some of them at least), this evil species of ours is at least… less evil (yeah, it’s all about pov I guess, since evil and good seem to be quite relative, yet also kinda present/still valuable/relevant, like a peaceful life, peaceful mind, etc. these things help one uncover the deeper layers of self and reality, better than remaining a brute, although again, countless strong rituals around the world which revolve around “bloody rituals” and whatever, etc.; still, I find the “good rituals” and paths those of love/focused on love or/and positivity, introspection, meditation, etc. to be more potent though, at least generally speaking, plus judging from a pov which I first learned from Dreamweaver, judging from a negentropic pov, anything dark is heavy and is for the most part (if not fully) entropic, thus lighter Spirituality is technically “better” etc., since it sustains life, order,… ; anyway, I went off topic (again lol, sorry Unconditional ), the idea was / is that there is some progress, but still when it comes to how we treat animals, collectively speaking, our species sucks… big time.
We have a loooong way to go, to reach the stars, as you put it Sammy.
The average human is not far from the caveman unfortunately…
(lol, I am not that far either lol, I would say it’s all about our decisions, our self control and our paths… If watching Anime ever thought me something is how volatile we are, and how one or a couple wrong decisions could lead almost anyone to at least a darker path…, yet obviously some folks manage to rise even living in a ghetto or even change for the better while in prison, or grow spiritually in the hellish fires of wars etc., so the choice at least kinda still is ours, although it’s not easy at all to do the right thing, ever…)
I never believed anything specifically around 2012, but yes, around that time all the spiritual “groups”/forums were full of this kind of stuff. Probably that’s why I am so dismissive now, for you and me both this 2010-2012 was at the “sensitive” age of becoming an adult in all senses of the word and starting to think and live independently in society.. we were exposed to a lot of these ideas, soooo many people being in alignment and seeing things in their life, “feeling” a change coming, “channeling” information.. and then.. none of it came to fruition and life just goes on.
Also if you are a man in the Eastern European countryside that is vegetarian / has vegetables as a main, you’re basically gay
Or a “rabbit” or “goat”
“I’m not eating that, that’s for the goats” - I’ve heard this so many times lol
Or “this cow was eating vegetables so this stew is vegetarian”
(I’m Eastern European too originally)
I’ve been veggie/vegan before but now I’m more flexitarian (I don’t buy/cook meat but I’ll eat it at other peoples houses or in restaurant bc I don’t eat dairy and the vegetarian option is often with cheese etc) but I’ve been considering reducing this even more as I do feel bad about it when I think it through.
Yeah, everytime I go on my vegetarian phases, I always have to hear snide comments from others lol. It’s just weird and sometimes feels like the existence of vegetarians forces them to mentally confront with the fact that slaughtering animals the way we do… is probably not a good thing. And that annoys them, so they project.
That’s just how I see it cause I don’t ever bring any of that stuff up or try to get anyone to be come vegetarian.
That said, I have my phases. Going veggie has huge upsides for me but some downsides that are hard to manage. Upsides is that I become much higher vibrational, my stomach functions a lot better, I’m more emotionally and mentally free, and meditating is heavenly. I can go on but yeah, in general, I operate at a much higher spiritual capacity.
But the downside is… I often reach too high in vibration and get too sensitive. NYC is too loud energetically to be in that sort of vibration. And I get rather skinny and low testosterone and just… too complacent. I don’t have that much drive to do more cause I’m content. Which sounds great but I got a lot of things to accomplish lol.
I mean, all of us humans are still cavemen really. We still have a lot of biological instincts from that time period that carry on in our day to day lives. But, people like you, me, and others in the forum are aware of so much more about ourselves and reality. We think outside the box to a capacity that most people typically don’t. It’s in that line of greater awareness, that you are most certainly quite distinct from cavemen.
Yess, I remember all those channelings! I used to read them all the time lol. I remember David Wilcock had a blog that I would read quite often as well. Rest in peace to him, as he recently just passed away. Guy suffered quite a bit the past few years from what I heard.
But yeah, the hope from that time period was such a beautiful feeling. I was so hopeful that the human game was getting an upgrade. Remembering the excitement right now is getting me very nostalgic. What saddens me is that… I kind of think we were more ready for that upgrade during that time period than we are now. We had our problems then but we were certainly not as divided as we are now. Europe with immigrants, US with MAGA and so on and so on. We took some big steps back lol.
But I do think everything now had to happen to some degree. We are all being forced to face what we internally reject. Forced to face what’s underneath the surface. Like racism was still prevalent i the US but now managed to escape its mask and become an energy that we are forced to deal with. Like right now, humanity is going through some intense collective shadow work. We aren’t doing too good a job of integrating and dissolving it yet though lol.
The thought that humanity was soon going to enter a higher vibrational realm
ah, this resonates so well with some of the chaos magic stuff I read recently… we sure have built an aversion against uncertainty, but like DW once said, if we want to identify with the whole, we must embody both order and chaos…
all good. I appreciate your thoughts!
well, again, quoting from the Angelic intercession field description, I think it was saying something like “help is always available but we need to ask for it”. So, perhaps there’s like a “no unwanted intervention” type of principle, at least for some of the higher beings.
yoo, I’ve been thinking about exactly that too. even about Jesus sometimes… it’s like good intentions are inevitably affirming the existing of evil… which then reminds me some verses from Tao Te Ching and Bhagavad Gita…
when you define beautiful/good, the ugly/evil gets manifested, etc… (Tao Te Ching)
the highest yogi sees both saints and sinners with an equal mind, etc. (Bhagavad Gita).
but then again… if we fear to recognize “evil”, that too is a type of aversion/affirmation… so… even attachment to “only good exists in my reality” is some type of double edged sword… isn’t it?
I’m being pulled more towards total acceptance of all possibilities… may that be angels or demons… existence or nonexistence… naming any thing is partial consciousness and it kinda makes sense to be fully impartial to truly be free…
then again… I’m just thinking out loud.
has been knocking on my door no matter how much I avoid it… I wonder if it’s happening due to the Architect of Reality field…
bro… I don’t want to turn this into a dramatic thread, but I had a similar depressing epiphany a few years ago, where I observed “our planet” from space and it was basically a massive death machine…
The amount of “livestock” we raise and kill each day is extremely high and we have “mastered” a crazy “pruduction line”… It’s “normalized” in society, but really imagine an alien vegetarian race watching our planet… I can’t argue why they would name it to be in “the dark age”.