Feedback for Scam / Counterfeit Reports Thread

[anon73693188]

@Zen

It is not about shaming them or anything like that but letting them know it’s wrong and having faith they’ll recognize and stop performing those actions.

They dont have shame, they are not innocent.

How is that someone is gonna be supposedly buying all kinds of gumroad/sapienshop audios without knowing nothing about them?

But then they create a profile to straight ask to trade audios? They well know what they are doing, they just portrait themselves naive.

I didnt post the ones i got because i sent ss to Divine_Lotus and the profiles were taken down before this thread but there was one with such a sweet talk blessing me and all and using this emoji every 3 words and then after my inquisitive questionnaire he was like i just need help and whatever, so you are telling me youve bought thousands on fields but cant afford the one you need?

Nah bye.

I say. Shameeeeee them and burn them all.

[anon73693188]

On another note @Divine_Lotus how about the bot incorporating a step when someone is new to have to read the main forum threads were this is discussed like the site one.

Just like when we have to go thorugh some steps with the bot before doing anything in the forum?

That way everybody opening a new profile would definitely have seen that trades are forbidden and then profiles can be shut down right away, no warnings no nothing after the 1st message about trading.

[Divine_Lotus]

Reminder for solving this issue: We all need to keep it simple (ease of use) and reliable and self maintained for the long term. Like ideas such as these

@JAAJ

“people vouch for people” voting idea that @Divine_Lotus suggested:

1 Submission form > users pitch in the username(s) they vouch for into the form > results with numbers of repeat mentions of names Instead of everyone having to spam polls for each user, clogging up the thread. Finding a way so it’s more optimal unless this is the only way

With that, everyone can see who vouched for whom.
Then everyone can make up their own mind whom they are going to trust by how much.

[anon73693188]

Yes but i was talking about new members messaging about trading fields.

And going through the process of posting here then you checking then finally booting them…

The bot could do that step making every new member aware that trades are forbidden and messaging others about that would cause them to be instantly permanently banned

Easier and faster

[Divine_Lotus]

@anon73693188

how about the bot incorporating a step

The forum software bot: im not sure if i can systematically adjust the bot myself due to the permission settings for my role. I remember reading somewhere that it must be done on the back end by admin rather than moderator. Looking into it. Moving these conversations to a dedicated feedback thread

[JAAJ]

Additional idea:

PM function is blocked for new users.
They have to first do at least 10 posts, collect 30 likes and be on the forum for at least 1 month before the PM function is enabled for them. Something like that.

[anon3411921]

Yeah you right.

[Powren]

or how about some sort of pre-entry quiz?

NFT and community projects workings
Protected fields
Basics of trading here
Recognition of suspicious behavior

etc.

[Divine_Lotus]

After thinking for a while, not relying on forum software addons which can be unreliable due to many reasons such as the risks of updates breaking things or having external hosting source, this may be the only best way to go

@Alex

maybe we can create a poll, or multiple polls and add each member, and whoever wants to vouch for the member, can vote

based on the votes, the trust badge

@JAAJ

In the voting thread, everyone creates one post for themselves, something that looks like this:

< JAAJ’s post >

And possibly

@Beltloop

a testimonials thread for those who are selling/trading their NFTs.

@Beltloop

The thread would be a simple thread in the classified section. If a user has a positive interaction with another user doing a trade, they can simply post something like “traded X with Y on 2/10/22. Trade went smooth!”

More suggestions in the thread

[Beast]

Some people will never be able to pass this quiz lol

There are some people here who have been active for years and still dont understand NFTs and Community Projects and if they are available and if yes how and where to acquire them etc…

[JAAJ]

Let’s start already
You can create the thread and in the first post explain the rules or what it is about.
Then me and others can start posting below our lists of trustworthy trade partners. Not via voting, but with listing and writing forum user name tags, so that others can use the search function and see how many people vouched for whom and who vouched for whom.

[Powren]

@Beast

Some people will never be able to pass this quiz lol

There are some people here who have been active for years and still dont understand NFTs and Community Projects and if they are available and if yes how and where to acquire them etc…

Then the quiz will send them the links and try better luck tomorrow :D

[Powren]

And also, ppl are often asking the same questions in NFT threads.

Is owning nft all needed for it to work perfectly?
Do I have to print mandala?
How many times to listen to audio?
How do I get the audio?
Where do I buy community NFTs?

etc etc…

Many ppl don’t bother finding it somewhere, even tho it got a bit better lately. So some kind of pre-entry quiz would solve that.

[Zen]

@anon73693188

Nah bye.

I say. Shameeeeee them and burn them all.

Interesting, I suppose I should reserve my love for only those who do no harm (which would be exactly? Have you never stepped on a bug or killed a bee? Is your life worth more than of that life?)

Interesting, interesting interesting…

As Jmmanuel was leaving, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax office and spoke to him, “follow me!” And he stood up and followed him.

And it came to pass as he was eating at home, behold, many tax collectors, ignorant people and seekers of the truth came and ate at the table with Jmmanuel and his disciples.

When the Pharisees saw this, they spoke to his disciples, “Why is your master eating with the tax collectors and the ignorant?”

When Jmmanuel heard this, he spoke, "The healthy do not need a physician but the sick do; and the knowledgeable do not need the teachings but the ignorant do. Those who were not misled do not need the teachings, but those who were misled do.

"Go therefore, and recognize the falseness of your wrong teachings, so you do not mislead those people who thirst for the truth.”

[anon73693188]

@Zen

Interesting, I suppose I should reserve my love for only those who do no harm

Mercy goes hand in hand with justice and justice hand in hand with mercy.

These people have zero sense of respect.

We can def send love to them but after, not just that.

People like them need the embarrassment sometimes to wake up and realize they are doing wrong, being nice and loving from the start only enables them to keep going.

Unfortunately it is how it goes.

They have pushed Dream’s love and caring nature to protect his things and income.

Love alone didnt work. They used it and abused it.

Archangel Michael is fiercy and does not hesitate in drawing his sword, tho he is full of love.

Same Archangel Uriel

[anon3411921]

Have to agree, to do something like this, you have to have a mindset of being selfish and greedy. These types of people need a wake up call.

[Zen]

@anon73693188

People like them need the embarrassment sometimes to wake up and realize they are doing wrong

Strange, cause my dog has this thing for catching mice.

No thought about it, you think if I shame her it’ll change her actions to prevent her from ripping apart the poor animal?

Instead, I noticed it. The mice was there scared for its life. I felt sympathy for it’s life, I loved the mice as a part of me and I loved my dog as a part of me. I KNOW it wanted to kill the mice, but I didn’t try and stop it; I didn’t try and punish it, simply expressed my intention of love for both life and it let the mice go.

I don’t need to shame my dog or hold that over her lifetime like hey you remember all those times you killed the mice?

@anon73693188

being nice and loving from the start only enables them to keep going.

Notice how I’m not enabling the user to continue doing what they are doing. Address it, fix it and move on. Not shame the person or hold guilt over them.

@anon3411921

Have to agree, to do something like this, you have to have a mindset of being selfish and greedy. These types of people need a wake up call.

I can see why some think of things like this, but especially considering we are part of this community where we understand energies and entities are all around us and we can be EASILY influenced by them from dimensions we can’t even perceive as this moment.

But what are the odds, you haven’t been influenced to do something you deep down know it’s not right but can’t realize it cause you’ve been so duped and disconnected.

[anon73693188]

@Zen

Strange, cause my dog has this thing for catching mice.

No thought about it, you think if I shame her it’ll change her actions to prevent her from ripping apart the poor animal?

How are you even comparing this dude. Seriously.

If you want to send them love them we can tag you every time. It works for you good. Keep doing it.

But dont be lecturing us here if we understand why this needs to be stopped by strong measurement.

[Zen]

Just giving you perspectives,

@Zen

Notice how I’m not enabling the user to continue doing what they are doing. Address it, fix it and move on. Not shame the person or hold guilt over them.

The whole point.

[anon3411921]

@Zen

I can see why some think of things like this, but especially considering we are part of this community where we understand energies and entities are all around us and we can be EASILY influenced by them from dimensions we can’t even perceive as this moment.

I see where you are coming from but these types of people who scam, scam because they think it’s alright to do so. To scam someone, means to not care about the other person. This is just my rational mind speaking and years of dealing with scammers.

I don’t know why they scam. Probably they are poor, greedy, love hurting others, etc. I just don’t know, but scamming is a low level that I refuse to give sympathy to.

You can address the issue, you can give sympathy to them, but sometimes it’s just not possible (rational mind speaking).

I am not going to hold it against someone if they rectify their mistake and apologize, but for those who don’t care? No sympathy. Scamming is evil.