I think one of the problems is that there’s kids here
Like @josh he’s only 12
lol
And the majority of people here come to learn about spiritual stuff and fields
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Sapien Med is a brand too.
In everyone’s screen corner it shows up in big letters. If people are uncomfortable being on the forum of the sapien team or worst people screenshot it on Reddit to show how bad they are that’s bad for the Sapien Team, it’s some people’s full time job.
This is meant to heal as many people as possible.
Doesn’t matter if it’s really that bad, as long as considerable amount of people think it is, that’s how it will be treated and there is a simple way to avoid all that unnecessary hassle. Private messages, discord servers.
This is not mean to be a free speech plateform, it’s a sapien medicine field plateform.
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Now my own unpopular opinions.
(1) There is no such things as free speech, every word as consequences, words have a cost.
(2) Freedom is overrated and absolute freedom sound childish to me. Like a tantrum. We live in community however one may feel about it.
He who wants to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants can go live alone in the savanna
There are plenty of lawlessness territories in the world, that’s the places most people flee from like the pest.
That’s literally a criteria of backwardness and poverty.
PS: I lived in one of those ghetto piece of crap countries for a few years when my mother was playing the international doctor in poor areas.
We had 5 months without cops, total anarchy, that’s not as funny as people think. I leave before the cops leave trust me.
I’m not afraid of the Illuminati or elites.
I’m afraid of mobs and masses. Uncontrolled herd lashing out sinking to the lowest common denominator, rejecting all responsibilities.
I take the facist police state over the anarchy, power to the people society anyday.
People who want order and cleanliness go to developped countries, those have the most restrictions too.
If you want absolute freedom, how about you take a one way flight ticket to: Burundi, Somalia, some parts of Afghanistan, latin america, Congo is great too. Rural brazil too, beautiful.
Freedom guaranteed.
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I believe a balance is most optimal lol. While the positive points you raised with regards to order and control is indeed true, anything in excess is bound to be detrimental.
For example, Singapore is one of the most orderly country, high GDP, law and order with Low crime rates etc etc, sounds good from the outside maybe but there is a reason why the people here are one of the least happy according to multiple surveys lol.
PS: I live here and it’s a general sentiment amongst quite a lot of the residents as well
Def places with anarchy sucks, u can die tomorrow from being robbed or wtv. That isn’t really the pt of free speech tho is it? Feels like you’re just presenting us with 2 extreme ends of the options here, no offence.
Basically I just wanna say a balance between law and personal freedom is better than simply law or simply freedom, neither taken to the extreme is good.
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Absolute order= Military camp for everyone
As someone who was forced to sacrifice 2 years of his life by LAW- including every other male in the country, where simple incompetence or unintentional slip-up will result in severe punishment for something we didn’t sign up for, I can say it’s not fun lol.
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I’m not for either extremes, I’m answering to people who think they are so oppressed because they can’t do anything they want, take any drugs they want, not obey anyone and fuck authority and fuck the police.
That’s how you get absolute freedom.
Now, Singapore is very extreme too.
I’m not for any extreme, including extreme freedom.
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Fair enough. Just a little wary against strong arguments for order given that I live in a country that police our body and actions even overseas lol
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I know I’m biased though, I experienced more the lawlessness side and the most strict country I lived in is my own France 
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It’s easy to see how authoritarianism is bad, everyone gets warned about it, but many don’t seem to see the problem with the hippie dippie fantasies. The same police they attack is the reason they can have private properties, enforce contracts and have systems that work.
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Maybe many times people confuse freedom in whatever way with lack of responsibility for their actions.
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This couldn’t be more blatantly lies.
These aren’t FREE countries, they are places where the laws are flaunted.
Go to any of those places and armed government agents will still be enforcing laws that have no right to exist.
I am committed. I will utterly destroy human authority in all forms from the face of this planet or die trying.
There is no cost too great to pay.
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There will always be authority, that’s how humans are, best you’ll do is create a power vacuum where even worst people will take over and they will be more ruthless.
Or the street will be filled with junkies and street hookers and we’re back to everyone for themselves.
You give almost anyone the chance and they will use their powers and another thing, people comply. They fall in orders and they live through the tough leaders.
Empires and government or religious authorities have been the force driving globalism/ uniformity and peace through their world or regional orders.
Pax Romana, Pax Americana.
Instead of attacking authorities, you can try to break the cycles and elevate people’s consciousnesses.
Comes from somewhere, when a couple people order thousands or millions.
I just share my subjective opinion
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I disagree and I will see it destroyed no matter what.
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I respect the intention but I think the focus is misguided.
You’re fighting humans nature, you remove one bad guy, someone else takes his place.
These people come from the same tribe they oppress, these politicians are a product of our societies.
Plenty more waiting in line and they’ll say “oh that bad guy forced us all, the millions of us, it’s all his evil machination”. But we all know they were in on it, enough of them.
Still, I can’t and won’t stop you
You can remove one, but plenty more will rise to take their places
You have no idea what I do or the nature of my magick.
I will eradicate human authority from reality, step by step, completely at all levels.
I hope you do, but you’re right. I don’t know anything about your magic.
I’ll just be relying on 40,000 years of human history, fallen prophets, despots and emissary victims
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Last point, seems I ignored that.
That’s my point. I believe it’s the closest you’ll come to your authority free utopia.
There’s never been a 100% free society. Whether it’s traditions, father or mother figures, elders even the most remote tribes have authority and you’ll never organize billions of people, go to space, make hundreds of planes fly across the world without some form authority.
I said it all 
That’s not even going to the more extreme where we can’t tell children not to play with a chainsaw because authority is bad or forbid crazy lunatics from wandering the streets because they are a danger to themselves and others.
Neurologically, genetically, subconsciously, even on an hormonal level we are wired that way.
Huh… why do we need another one of these threads? Let’s keep this in the random thoughts thread.
Chaos and order are symbiotic. Both need eachother. Too much freedom just doesn’t fit with human nature, as we are still driven by primitive instincts and get far too chaotic to function properly. Even if 98% of people are well balanced, all it takes is 2% to mess up the balance for everyone.
Order is necessary to maintain our chaotic nature. Otherwise, we’ll cease to function as a population.
I’ll believe in full free speech when humans have matured. I don’t know though. Maybe some one here can convince me that we are mature enough to exist without rules.
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Seriously. Convince me. I keep hearing people online complaining about free speech but don’t ever give good arguments for it. Like at all.
Seems that people just want to be able to say and do whatever they want to do without consequences. Life doesn’t work that way.
But hey I can be wrong so convince me that I should just let people say and show whatever they want in this forum.
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big difference honestly
we need rules of course, but speech can only do so much damage and shouldnt be as restricted unless its a threat or something similar
just my opinion of course
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True. Big difference between the two. Didn’t mean to equate them being the same lol. So, sorry if I did.
But that’s what Elon Musk thought as well. He was a big proponent of free speech and said he was going to make twitter free speech friendly.
When he took over twitter, not even 3 days passed before he atarted enforcing rules on feee speech and now he’s banned kanye.
The thing about words is that we really underestimate the powrr they have. Words have instigated wars, rebellions, suicides, religions, massive shifts in consciousness and so on. Words program our reality in a way most people aren’t even aware of.
Now look, I’m not against free speech. I’m not for authoriarianism at all. Despise it. But I am about balance. And a part of balance is understanding that words do have an impact on the people around me and to be weary of that. I think the problem with freedom for humanity is that we still mostly only think about ourselves (and our own) and don’t consider other people’s thoughts and feelings.
Many of us expect people to be accepting or strong enough to take on our thoughts and feelings even if they are very disrespectful to them. I agree that people shouldn’t be so affected by words either and need to break out of that spell. But we humans are so in our egos that for the time being, words have power over us.
It’s interesting also that I’ve come to notice that some of the people who complain about people being sensitive are so sensitive to people who are sensitive. And when words are used against their thoughts and beliefs, they react just as strongly. Humans in general are very… sensitive to words.
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