God-Tier Manifestation track is back on Apple Music
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Captain did say EA was different arrangement so the albums that are on EA were never uploaded on Patreon unlike the ones on Sapien Medicine channel, though one field/album was an exception donāt remember which one.
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Hello everyone (and nice to meet you all), pardon me if I enter the conversation, but since Iāve found these albums on Spotify too (after being notified about the existence of the featured track on Spotify), I came here on the forum to look for some confirmation and found this topic. Iām just a lurker.
Decided to wait to see how the situation evolved, and also so I could do a few research and comparisons in my free time to check if I could find something tangible to justify a minimal amount of my right to speak 
Iāll throw my two cents on what this could be. Maybe this can be valuable Idk.
I am familiar with publishing music on digital platforms through digital music distribution services, as Iāve produced a couple songs for friends and local artists yrs ago, and the Whole situation of songs ending on your profile, which are published by other people who share your same artist name is actually very common. Of course in these cases that always happens by accident and by mistake. Never thought even once that this could be done on purpose, but this situation made me start questioning
Since I canāt explain this mechanism coherently and in details through text (and especially in english), I asked AI to help me organize my thoughts, so the following has been co-written with AI.
Premise
Premise:
Indipendent artists with no labels behind them like Sapien and also amateurs do not upload directly to streaming platforms. Instead, they upload through a distributor (DistroKid, RouteNote, TuneCore, CD Baby, etc.), which sends the audio files and metadata to streaming platforms (all of them at once, including YouTube Music which is why releases are generated automatically also on YouTube).
Those platforms then try to match the release to an artist profile through an automated process.
To upload music on platforms, Dreamweaver has always used a distributor since his first release.
You can check on album one from 2020 on youtube. It says āprovided by DistroKidā.
Itās been his modus operandi from day one. And the metadata of his uploads has always been pretty consistent. This time the albums were uploaded on RouteNote for the first time ever.
They ended up showing on his streaming platformsā profiles, but not on his official YouTube channel.
Iāll try to explain how this couldāve been done by someone else.
Why it showed on his Spotify profile, but not on his YouTube.
Also how all of this still does not proof itās a scam at the same time imo 
Scenario
Imagine I upload music tomorrow and I choose āSapien Medicineā as my artist name, Spotify itself doesnāt know whether I am the real Sapien Medicine or not.
Letās say I decide to upload the music through RouteNote, while OG Sapien still has his account active on DistroKid.
The distributor (RouteNote) sends this info:
Artist = Sapien Medicine
And Spotifyās automated systems then attempt to connect the release to an artist profile.
Sometimes it creates a new profile entirely;
other times it attaches to the correct profile you want the song to be attached to;
and other times it attaches to a wrong profile which is already existing under the same name.
Orā¦ youāre given the opportunity to choose the profile yourself right away, when uploading the track.
ex = I type in āSapien Medicineā and a drop down menu shows matching profiles I can pick.
This is a well-known industry issue.
Thousands of artists have had random music appear on their profiles by accident because another artist somewhere in the world has the same artist name, or because the wrong profile got picked when uploading.
About the metadata:
The metadata is manually entered by the uploader. This means that artist names, composer names, label names, and even copyright information (ā and Ā©) can often simply be entered manually.
In other words, seeing the correct artist name, real name, label name, or copyright notice in the metadata is not necessarily proof that the release was uploaded by the real artist.
Spotify just blindly trusts the info sent by the distributor and doesnāt double check on anything. It only becomes a problem if you recognize it and dispute it.
This is important, because it means that I can check his metadata, see his name etc, and copy it.
(hence why āVishal Rampersadā is not enough of a proof)
Also: the presence of the name of a ālabelā under those symbols doesnāt mean that a proper label actually exists and that it has been trademarked under that specific name.
Me and my friends used to put āĀ© XYZ Musicā just to make it look cool, but it wasnāt anything official at all lmao, i think it meant almost nothing legally. Lots of people make those up, you can insert whatever really. So, again, not enough of a proof, because I can insert āĀ© Sapien Medicineā easily myself.
The trouble is later if or when I get busted using someone elseās name or company name
Context
All of this goes for small, indipendent and niche artists like Sapien, where anything too sketchy canāt be highlighted when inserting metadata and there isnāt much exposure. You can type in āDrakeā and āUMGā in there if you want for example XD, but with those guys it will never come through. The distributor would pick it up and reject it immediately, even before reaching DSPs.
Also: this is a very specific case as it targets someone who is inactive and doesnāt have social media presence, around a very specific niche. Itās very unique (and sadly exploitable) case.
In a basic setting artists usually have teams, fans, real label behind them, etc, and itās much more less likely to happen, as also it doesnāt really make that much sense for someone to even try to do this really. You basically just sign yourself up for legal trouble and instant ban lol
So, in a worst case scenario:
even if in the bad actorās intention it wasnāt planned to actually make the albums land on Dreamās profiles, he couldāve just wanted simply to create a separate profile with the same name to fool people into believing itās the real Sapien Medicine. Not saying thatās how it is, just saying it is a possibility.
So, yeah, thatās how someone else could have made the tracks appear on his profiles and why Spotify/Apple/etc. can be considered ānot enoughā as a proof of legitimacy.
About the YouTube channel:
What was said above does not work for YouTube.
For YouTube I need to create a separated chapter.
YouTube involves a different system compared to other platforms, especially in this case.
Ok, so first:
The releases show on YouTube in video format because uploading to streaming platforms includes uploading to YouTube Music.
Those are same audio tracks and artwork from YouTube Music, which then are then converted and uploaded automatically to video format on YT, so that they also show as videos on OG YouTube.
Nothing manual there.
Process looks like this (oversimplified):
General case:
- Artist uploads first album release with āXYZā as his artist name
ā distributor sends metadata info to YouTube Music
ā YT system tries to match the release with an existing artist profile through metadata analysis ā if a channel already exists under that name and metadata matches, it goes there
ā if a channel does not exist under that name, or if the metadata causes the release to be treated as a new artist entity rather than an established profile, YT generates a new and separate Topic channel for that entity.
ā āXYZ - Topicā is born
ā Future releases will be uploaded there, given that they share similar metadata
This specific case (hypothetical):
- A person (Dream or random) uploads album with artist name āSapien Medicineā through different distributor
ā distributor sends metadata info to YT
ā YT system tries to match the release with an existing artist profile
ā A āSapien Medicineā channel already exists, but it is already been claimed officialy by someone else, and the metadata does not match strongly enough for YouTube to treat the upload as belonging to that existing artist
ā The system treats the upload as a separate artist entity
ā āSapien Medicine - Topicā is born
ā Future releases will be uploaded there, given that they share similar metadata
ā If this was Dreamweaver and he wants the album to be moved to his channel, he just needs to submit a request, verify his identity through google login, done, wait days for it to complete.
ā If this was a scammer, he canāt do anything, he would need access to Dreamās google account, the releases stay on the separated channel.
Ok, so: why? What is it about YouTube? And why does this differ from Spotify, Apple, etc?
Because
āSapien Medicineā is an Official Artist Channel claimed by Dreamweaver.
Official Artist Channel (OAC)
To avoid running the risk that your catalog gets spread through random channels, and to let all the releases go automatically onto one specific profile, distributors give you the option to claim your āOfficial Artist Channelā on YouTube.
Basically you can link your personal owned official YouTube channel with your distributor, so that
anytime that you upload, the release goes automatically to your personal channel and everything is well organized and you donāt run the risk that it gets spread through random channels, nor that an homonymous randomly appears on yours by mistake.
This is an option which (clearly) Dreamweaver enabled with DistroKid, since all his releases are right there on his personal YT page.
To achieve this, you need to meet certain requirements and have access to the Google account.
- Spotify/Apple profiles are store shelves. If you write the correct name on the box, the stock boy puts it on the existing shelf. Their matching system is based around text.
- An OAC is a locked room. An OAC isnāt just an automated shelf; it is an active link between an Artist Topic Channel (run by the system) and a Personal YouTube Channel (owned by the human).
When you first claim your OAC through DistroKid, you have to log into your personal Google Account and physically click āAuthorize.ā
The link between YT and Distributor canāt happen if you donāt have access to the Google Account.
What most likely happened:
The reason as to why this album is on an autogenerated new āSapien Medicine - Topicā channel might be (primarily) because this was distributed by RouteNote for the first time ever, interrupting the DistroKid workflow.
Because RouteNote has no connection to the Dreamās Google Account or DistroKid history, RouteNoteās system didnāt pass along any OAC verification tokens.
YouTubeās system looks at the inbound RouteNote track and says: āThis claims to be Sapien Medicine. But the verified OAC for Sapien Medicine is tied to a secure DistroKid token/Google ID. This delivery is coming from an unlinked, unverified RouteNote pipeline.ā
Instead of risking a layout override on a verified channel, YouTubeās automated safety protocol kicks in: it routes the release to a standalone, auto-generated āArtist Name - Topicā channel.
TLDR
The platform did not receive the same artist-mapping information it usually receives for the legitimate catalog and labeled it as different.
Does this prove itās a scam? No.
The separation wouldāve happened everytime anyway, in every scenario: either if this was him or a scammer to upload the tracks.
So it can make you rightfully doubt, but still not a proofā¦
The point is that this is where a scammer wouldāve hit a brickwall though.
He canāt prove ownership to Sapien Medicineās official channel, bc he would need access to his Google account, therefore tracks cannot be moved to the official channel and stay separated.
This can only happen with Dreamweaverās approval.
This is a freaking mess and I hope it is clear to understand, Iām not so sure about that hahaha
Conclusion:
The point Iām trying to make is this:
Without any official confirmation/denial, only thing to look out for is if the album ends up on his official YT channel. That would prove 100% itās him.
If not, I donāt really know, the doubt still remains, honestly. (as Spotify, Apple, etc, and metadata can be considered ānot enoughā as a proof)
With no official claim, YouTube is the one here who really makes the difference in proving 100% its legitimacy or not.
Metadata can make you doubt for sure, but unfortunately it cannot be considered the one all be all final proof that the albumās fake (nor real).
For example: from Mr Milkshakes to STIMS the name of composer is āLucien Faestromā.
For whatever reason he decided to pick a new name last year. So metadata is different on paper.
But no one cared about that change, nor questioned it, because (without an official announcement) legitimacy is proven by the fact that the album is there on his Official YouTube Channel, and that it is then legitimized on the forum, not by metadata.
The thing is that with no official claim one can only assume.
Summary:
To summarize, I see two possible explanations:
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An unrelated person uploaded music under the same artist identity, and intentionally or accidentally caused the releases to be attached to his existing artist profiles, while posing as him. Could get away with posting tracks on Spotify, Apple, etc, but he canāt prove his identity on YouTube, because he would need access to Sapienās Google account.
So the releases stay on the separated channel forever, until taken down. -
Sapien uploaded the albums himself and simply decided to use a different distributor and slightly different metadata, and change his entire workflow after years.
Totally possible, because why not. And perhaps thatās exactly how he wants it to be.
And itās simple as that, so itās hopefully legit and we have a new release to enjoy.
If he wants the album to merge to his personal channel, only thing he has to do is to submit a request, prove his identity by logging into the google account, done, it takes days.
But maybe he wants it to keep it separated this way, and stays like this.
I wonāt push myself any further with other types of assumptions.
Because even then, you could just argue that he actually wanted it this way, and itād be quite foolish for me to think I can make assumptions as if I could read his intentions lmao. I have no idea.
Better to just limit myself to general technicalities and leave it open to interpretation.
Iām just making this post so you know that there could be an explanation as to why this mightāve happened without his consent.
Iām not here to emanate any verdict, nor my intent is to spread negativity or amplify any drama,
I actually hope that all I said about the chance of identity theft turns out to be useless and that the album turns out to be legit tbh 
But, given the inconsistencies, I find the concern to be understandable.
One thing I can feel pretty safe to say is that whatever this is, or if this is actually a āscamā, this type of scam does not require him being hacked, so as far as that goes I can feel pretty safe to say that you can chill
The only solution is to wait I guess, go with your gut, thatās it.
But, as of now, maybe this can give you a clearer idea.
Just trying to be helpful since I saw a bit of confusion, hope this was clear and exhaustive.
PS:
PS:
Want to emphasize again that some things were simplified for the sake of understanding, there could be things in here that technically are not 100% correct literally, but I feel confident that, in order to give a general landscape, I can post this without causing misinformation.
I was already familiar with the process in general, but asked AI to help me to articulate it better, and so that I could insert some bits of technicality in it as well so I could give a full spectrum.
By no means Iām an engineer.
I also took the time to double/triple check before posting, but feel free to do so yourself.
Apologies if there were some grammar mistakes
Peace everyone
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Thanks Zio 
this explains everything really!!
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Can someone summarize this?
AI could summarize that but itās worth a read (and takes few minutes only)
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Sapien normally uploads his new releases on YouTube not just Amazon Music etc. Also, looking at this so called quantum album, many of the titles are repetitive and ai ish, nothing like normal Sapien releases.
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Today I decided to listen to Financial Blockage Dissolution, and honestly, I felt a sense of releaseāas if I were lighter, but from the inside out. I also felt my ideas flowing much better, especially regarding how I communicate with potential clients. After the third and fourth times listening, I felt a cool energy in my head, as if something were being releasedāsomething that had been burning meāand that cool sensation felt amazing. Iāll likely try the others and share my thoughts on them, but I can say right now that I feel incredible after listening to it.
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New Album on spotify back in Aprilā¦couldāt find it posted here.
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Had no idea about these, thanks !
There is another one on spotify titled " god tier manifestation power "
There has been a lot of conversation about these two in this thread. The situation is murky.
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Hi @WonderSum
We have no verification that these are SapienMed releases. There is discussion about this in another thread.
I am going to close this thread and move any pertinent parts to the other one.
Thanks!
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Ygreck number 1:
Ygreck number 2:
Thereās one who uses the Sapien Medicine healing scepter in these videos (and some well-known titles as well)
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Ok Ygrek is false thats for sure
But what about the album??
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Cap dropped a Ragnarok titled album recently.
It seems to have popped up on YouTube.
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Soā¦ this album has been posted on the YouTube channel, does that mean itās an official Sapien Medicine creation? 
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Wow the quantum album is really on YouTube release page!!!
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Yeah, I will not believe a single word of what āYgreckā says until there is actual proof.
There were too many red flags posted above about Ygreck.
The guy even deleted his reddit posts after being exposed.
Where he literally admitted that he/she is only jumping the bandwagon because labeling stuff as āfieldsā is a trend right now.
See the screenshots above in this thread.
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