Idea for scientific trials

[toby]

EDIT: upon reflection, the following post was ignorant and i am out of my depth. anyhoo, i hope sapien gets the scientific recognition he deserves.

to preface, i am only 17 and do not know very much about morphic fields, psychic phenomena, spirituality and science in general. i am just a very curious mind and would love to see this form of healing enter the scientific realm.

As some of you may have remembered , i emailed rupert sheldrake about sapien medicine.

This was an attempt at getting @El_Capitan_Nemo ’s work the attention it deserves from a respected scientist. It did not amount to much.

An new idea i have is to share a field by sapien that caters to sheldrakes’ needs so that his use of the field benefits him and us by getting sapien medicine’s work on Sheldrake’s radar.

A question i need an answer to before doing this is, would emailing sheldrake an mp3 of a field make it useless or less effective due to compression?

I am hoping that @El_Capitan_Nemo or another member of the team ( @SammyG , @staff ) could provide a premium field to gift to sheldrake to aid in the chances of its success.

of course, firstly i would have to get him on board with this idea and enquire on an issue he may be dealing with that a field could hopefully resolve or alleviate.

The end goal is to get a respected scientist on board to start scientific trials. My hope is to simply kick off what could be a long journey of scientific experimentation.

If you think i should not be doing this or you think i should do it in a different way or you have anything to add then please let me know.

[Replay]

University research is a bit of a reach. There are lots of protocols for anything involving humans or animals. The fields affecting plants shouldn’t be a problem.

Getting a respectable scientist on board is difficult. There’s a big downside for them to be associated with anything outside of very defined lines.

[toby]

Do you believe their is any value in proceeding with my plan?

I understand this sort of thing is a reputation hazard, he is already seen as a heretic for his morphic theory and his research in psychic phenomena so i dont see why he wouldn’t support it

[Replay]

Check your PMs

[Alkul]

This … is not a good idea, at all …

The road to Hades is paved with good intentions, young blood.

[Nice2knowU]

With the right scientific mind and soul, this would be feasible

[toby]

well said

[anon8601412]

Energy fields operate in a very high vibration, which means that there cannot be predictibility in its actions and effects, compared to low vibration activities like surgeons working on human organs.

This unpredictibility gets even more chaotic when it comes to human beings because we are affected by tons of factors out of our control that also affect results from fields.

IMO the best way could be to try fields on plants because they’re way more propense to manipulation than humans or animals.

@El_Capitan_Nemo could create a field to make a plant that grows in shade to grow x2 times faster than another plant that isn’t exposed to the energy field and take samples from both plants after 2 weeks to see what happened.

Both plants aren’t exposed to sunlight nor water.

Then replicate the same experiment 9 or 10 times and publish the paper.

[igem]

Actually the research is underway, there’s for example this company Magnetic field tech captures the ‘song’ of a drug

Also don’t forget Michael Levin.

It isn’t some all encompassing “proof”, that’s why maybe such news aren’t popular.

[anon73693188]

There will be a time for him to shine.

And the world will know all about it.

But this is not the time. The time is not here yet.

The sickly deep rooted Towers and structures have to fall first

The veils swept away

The facades fallen

The stablished quo crumbled

The fear reigning

The hope lost

Full entropy achieved

The Point of No Return

THEN.

The time to rebuild

The time to start fresh

The time to raise from the ashes WILL come.

But this is not it.

This time is to grow, learn, master in the quite of behind the curtains not just him but all of us that have not just had the luck to cross his path but have consciously and purposely met him half way. Let others find him in their heart felt search too. The list keeps growing.

Bravery, courage and scientific burocracy are not needed here, the attention that would follow would actually bring upheaval and blockages.

The Ninjas reach farther being quite than the warriors whose swords are drawn.

The smooth drops of knowledge will get him there without hurring

[Replay]

If anyone wants to do science—just record data. That’s not gold standard double-blind data but it’s not nothing. There’s all sorts of cheap (and otherwise) equipment that yield lots of data. It’s not necessary for a PhD or MD to give you permission. Check out Ken Wilber’s videos on YouTube. There’s one where he just drops his brainwaves off the map and then brings them back. You could record your blood pressure, take pictures of scars/grey hair wrinkles reducing over time, or any number of things. It probably won’t persuade anyone, but most scientific observations don’t lead to much of anything, either.

[Violet]

I think it’s not a good idea, although the sentiment is appreciated
World leaders would not be pleased that their “control” is being threatened, that too by a nonstate actor.
It’s harmful to their safety so I really think its best not to!

[toby]

totally reasonable and logical

[Violet]

But then again
My name is nervous nellie lol.

I really need to do the plant thing. Like the plant audio on gumroad
Just for my own sake, i think it’s just so cool
But i keep forgetting to buy a plant lol