I've returned. some thoughts

@SammyG

I’ve spent some quality time away from the whole forum and spirituality community to find my footing in my immediate life because I’ve been putting off the necessary responsibilities of an adult so i could maintain my lifestyle of nocturnal internet and you tube surfing. I’ve built some good habits like resistance training and preparation for my university undergrad in the humanities. I have short, mid and long-term goals to look forward to. Regardless of if the fields are fake or real, i knew i was using them as a crutch for things i need to confront head on. I was only 19 and suffering tremendously at school from social anxiety and the associated isolation and avoidance that comes with it. So I’ve returned with a sharper mind with more knowledge and wisdom. The forum itself is filled with all kinds of interesting topics of inquiry that has genuinely shaped my life and intellectual curiosities for the better, so i am grateful for that.

Since i began listening to fields, I’ve always maintained a level of skepticism. I was invested heavily in this community for a while a year or two ago and i believed in it with a healthy and necessary level of skepticism. This skepticism had me reasoning on both sides: ‘Are the fields real? Or are they not real?’. I would watch hours of videos on theoretical physics and metaphysics and videos by Rupert Sheldrake; I’d meditate on the fields to feel their effects; i would read into or watch videos on spiritual traditions to understand the worldview they put forth; i would listen to out of body experiences and experiences of psychic phenomena from people.

The list goes on… i spent so much time doing this alongside daily listening to the fields in my pocket and playing at night. I reasoned that with all I’ve learnt outside of the forum and what i’ve learnt about the process of field-producing, it may genuinely be real. And i am open to the idea that the fields have helped me get to where i am at now without my knowing. Perhaps they’ve been working in a super subtle way that i didn’t register…

But even since developing a really strong worldview that allows for psychic phenomena to be real, this still does not mean the fields are real, much like if a cure for cancer is possible, it does not mean the dodgy salesmen in the alleyway holds it. And with my months and months of daily listening, i was not blown away by the results. Sure, you could say my expectations were too high, this is true. And in fact on some occasions i did feel like i experienced effects. But it always fell short of giving me certainty or a strong belief for it’s legitimacy. I Always maintained the thought that the human mind is capable of fooling itself in amazing ways… For example, the album on the patreon with the steroid fields were said to have limited protections placed on them and yet i did not feel any overt effect like i would if i injected the real thing. And with inverse gateway, one of the most expensive fields, i have not seen too much of an overt effect from this either which is disappointing.

You, Sammy, seem very down to earth and genuine, which is coming from someone whose read through a lot of your posts and comments. The man himself, Dreamweaver, though, behaves in a way that makes me question him—which is not to say i think this makes him a liar or delusional. Again, I’m a skeptic who is evaluating things from both sides. If my skepticism comes across as bias against the fields, i don’t mean to insult. This is just my experience and i really do want the fields to be genuine because then they’d be an invaluable resource.

I’d like to have an open dialogue with whoever about whatever in the comments if you see this

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All I know is that I don’t use my meds, including the Inhaler.

Research what it means to feel constriction and to not be able to breath when having an allergic reaction,
Then conclude what you want,
Since hgf and other fields help me all the time.

On the other hand, for my mom,
Somehow, the fields couldn’t save her.
Still, some results were visible,
Including in blood tests.

Again, conclude what you want,
My friend.

Are they all powerful or helping everyone, all the time?

No.

Can they help and do they help many and alleviate suffering?

Yes.

Conclusions are yours to take/have.

My advice: use whatever works,
Questioning often doesn’t do much, on the practical side.

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Im not trying in any way to criticize you, I think your perspectives are truly valuable.

But do you not think you are overthinking things?

Even if you could prove it, what would that achieve? Would you feel satisfied?

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As for Captain’s comments,
Anyone has the right to vent,
To complain.

Why he complained,
That’s not my right to say,
But let’s say that he had his reasons.

What I do know about him,
Is that he helped countless people,
And has much love to share,
Otherwise he wouldn’t have made the fields.

And Sammy,
Yes, he’s an extraordinary individual,
Who also has helped others,
Through contributions such as creating and keeping this forum,
Being a friend to Dreamweaver and
Preaching and Sprading Love and Support,
For many.
And, he’s still here,
Aiding others.

They and many others whom I have met on this forum,
Great souls,
That’s who they are.

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I"ve always been practical/experience based so for me my concerns were:

Do I have a good feeling about this creator, there intentions and products?

And

Can I (me) feel or notice anything that tells me (using my own intuition) that these are indeed effective?

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Yes the mind can convice itself of myriad things, this is true and also a very fascinating area of psychology. But the mind also possesses intuition and the capability and will of seeking truth.

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@toby

I think skepticism is the healthiest mindset one could have. It means you question things and inquire, you wanna know the underlying reasons. It’s a scientific mind that is constantly asking “why?”. I consider that very important.

I like your thinking. Are fields real or fake? Can I ask you first, is life real or fake?

---- insert Morpheus meme ‘what is real?’

So your question is really asking is this world real? And obviously I don’t wanna take away from your experience. It’s your own anecdotal evidence. Age 19 or not, you may have already experienced a lot of pretty odd occurrences. Coincidences that seem to random to explain. Synchronicity. Manifestation. Etc.

The trouble is always that we can’t measure it scientifically. But what is science but the measurement of or with our physical senses? Anything beyond that is the metaphysical and science tends to brush that off as non-existent, not important, or other things, which to me shows ignorance and in fact not a scientific mind.

If you close your mind to one particular system, then your entire experience will be based on this (and never beyond).

I know this is going a bit into philosophy or whatnot. My point is, in the end it’s up to you what to believe. If you believe fields are fake, this is a valid assumption and no one can take it from you. If you believe they are real, the same applies. And actually the same applies to anything in between.

I had that too btw! Some fields just work stronger than others, or more immediate.

At the end of the day, it’s entirely up to you. We could attempt science, it will only lead that far.

It’s a choice really. You look around. You see the people around you same, day-in day-out. Similar experiences, similar routines. We often ask ourselves “is that all?”

It’s this nudge from the soul that’s telling you the truth that the so called ‘ordinary’ life is first of all not that ordinary and second, more importantly, not even close to all that is.

This is why I often considered woven worlds magic one of the most important fields ever because it’s design is so that a belief in magic (sth beyond the ordinary) is a requirement.

That’s why I say it’s everyone’s choice. You choose how and what this world is - for you. Everyone else makes this choice too. And then you live your life based on this. And the beauty is you can update this literally at any time.

To me that’s the true free will.

So that’s why of course you can be skeptic. You should, you must imo. It’s necessary truly. And then you make new choices and update your beliefs at any time.

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I think its good you took some time away. Well done. And welcome back

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Hi there @toby

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Dunno why it reminds me so much of this song :smiley:

Welcome back, Toby, hopefully you’ll eventually find what you’re looking for.

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Hey Toby, glad to see you back and I hope your journey away from it all has helped you grow immensely. I do believe skepticism is healthy. Blind belief can lead one astray and lose sight of reason. I only came to believe what I believe through direct experience and even then I leave open the possibility I might still be wrong.

We’ve had people report healing HPV, lowering blood pressure, lowering testosterone, and more. Thousands have spoken about healing their sicknesses or getting relief that felt godsend. Others made similar content online, yet sapienmed seemed to have the grandest effect on the greatest number of people.

I’ve had dozens of direct experiences with fields that showed me I was dealing with intelligent energy… many that affirmed I was dealing with something real. But there were fields that didn’t work too well for me. Some would and others wouldn’t. Most people would say the same.

As you said, effects sometimes weren’t as pronounced as for others or as expected. I think that’s our physiology and energy interacting differently. We live in the physical realm where thoughts and energy take longer to manifest. Medicine is physical, so its effects are more visceral and instant. A field is intelligent energy that works over repetition and time. A field stimulating steroids will take longer or be more subtle than direct steroids. Energy work tends to be subtle.

It might also be that a field is rejected by your personal field… easier for the subconscious or energy field to reject a morphic field than an injection. Whether fields are real or not isn’t something I can prove. It is experiential. From my limited perspective, we are all energy, and someone creating an energy pattern that directs your energy toward an effect is logical to me because of direct experiences exploring deeper layers of consciousness. I can understand why it wouldn’t make sense without that direct experience.

I’m open to having been biased by my experiences. But at that point… does it even matter? I can listen to an audio and raise my hormones or clear my mind in an instant, and if delusion is the cost… that doesn’t feel like a cost to me.

As for Dream… he’s been doing this a long time. It has taken a lot out of him… making fields, carrying public perception, defending against energetic attacks over years. If he were creating for himself only, it would be a different experience entirely. Creating for hundreds of thousands year after year is a tumultuous weight that would shatter most. He’s still standing. Right now he prefers solitude and to make fields from that solitude without dealing with the public. I respect that. Things could have gone more smoothly, and I can understand becoming jaded. It’s a heavy game to play.

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I would say,
it really takes a certain kind of finesse to know which field will truly benefit you for your purpose.
There’s a wide collection of things — a very wide one.

Let me give you an example.
I had a smoking addiction.
I tried to listening to quit smoking field for months, but it never worked —
because I was still drinking coffee and tea along with it.
The Overcome Addiction field removed this issue from its very roots.

I had deep internal instability that was leading to those behaviors.
So, self-reflection was necessary along with choosing the right field.

And here, in this forum —
I don’t know what kind of results you didn’t get.
Materially?

If your root chakra is weak and not deeply anchored,
you’re not going to manifest things into reality.
The root chakra isn’t just another chakra it’s the key to physical reality and it is the most important chakra and that’s why it’s shunned the most.
So all your wealth, luck, and manifestation fields won’t produce much result without that grounding.

People also ask for fields to remove porn addiction and similar habits.
But until one learns to circulate sexual energy
no field can permanently cure that.

As you said, you were escaping reality —
And were socially anxious,foggy mind,less energy are sign of weak root chakra.
and these Dream fields are highly effective, producing instant results.
However, sometimes we loop them too much and lose our anchoring to physical reality over time.
When you took a break, you became more grounded.
Even doubting these things is actually a sign that your root anchoring has increased.

There are some bad planetary placements that block certain things in life.

Many people here suffer from social anxiety.
The root cause of social anxiety is a weak root chakra — the social fear.
Most people can’t and won’t figure that out.
When your root is weak, you don’t feel like you belong here, and you slip into escapism.
Life starts to feel stuck…

I’ve listened to many of Dreamweaver’s fields,
and every single one worked exactly as described — with pure power.

But here’s the thing:
If you give a beggar a golden magical cup,
he’ll still use that cup to beg.

These Dream fields have massive potential.
Someone who has a working brain, the ability to self-reflect,
a genuine desire to take responsibility for their life,
and a certain seriousness about their future —
without running away into fantasies about future incarnations (pure escapism) or psychic phenomena—
can easily rise into the mythic category.

I loved a girl.
The feelings were so intense that there was a heated longing for her.
I didn’t want to possess her or have a relationship with her —
I just wanted to burn for her.

And as I burned more and more for her,
I began to see her everywhere.
Every feminine face reflected my beloved.
I was dancing with her — not in absolute reality,
but it felt absolutely real.

What does this mean?
Did I achieve God?
Did I merge with her?
What would you call this — insanity or a psychic phenomenon?
Sure it was very escatic.

You’re miserable here and still want to grasp at other worlds?
How lunatic.

In short:
All of his fields worked — and are still working exactly as intended.

If any of them didn’t work before or seems to be.
it was because of me:
lack of consistency, weak grounding, or energetic overload.

Be responsible for your life.
Be serious about your life and your future.
And always stay anchored to this reality.

These fields are a gold mine.

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What would have to happen for you to be sure that the fields are genuine?

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I suppose to have some tangible proof would feel satisfying but i know my mind would explain it away. I have given testimonials in the past vouching for the fields so i am a bit internally conflicted about it

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I see. You say you do not feel the fields working in a way that satisfies you that they are working and working consistently for you.

I can mainly really speak from my own experience.

For example I remember being convinced because I was laying down on the floor in a dark room listening to Heart Restoration - you know the original one? - and my heart physically moved in a way I’d never felt before, and I felt lighter and freer in the chest.

I understand though that when feelings are more subtle it can seem as if your mind is projecting.

Even though I trusted the fields from early on part of me still remained skeptical or open minded for a long time. It is normal to hold opposing ideas.

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Have you tried looping testosterone?

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+1 wouldnt say much, but if u have manly man, use it now.

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why

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I think just because its effects are quite noticeable

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Literally no need for your snarkiness.

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