Jesus wasn't enlightened

Spirituality
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I’m not going to get involved in much dialog here, but one of the key ideas associated with Jesus is that he was here to transmute the sins of the world.

Some of the oldest doctrines of Karma do not treat it as a completely abstract thing, they treat it as a form of matter or material. One of the high doctrines in some secret sects of Buddhism is that intentional suffering can profoundly be used to transform and transmute karma.

So, with that as potential context, the intentional taking on of some of the most extreme forms of suffering (even unto death) is a way of externalizing one of the truths of an energetic alchemy. Taking pure evil — malice, destructive and even murderous intent — and transmuting it as a return to the greatest good, the Divine. In the case of the Gospel story, letting the evils of the world cause His own death but rising again through Faith and complete unity with the Divine.

It could be viewed as teaching a rare and esoteric truth through example. And, in a a weakened allegorical sense, it can be seen as a story for how the ego must die through trials and transmutation so that it can be reintegrated into a rarefied and higher state of being.

But everyone can choose what they want to see and what they want to take from the story.

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many spiritual traditions included hinduism interpretated karma as some kind of cosmic law and gave lectures on how to overcome it by following “ways of living”.

i highly disagree with this notion.

mainly because it’s tainted by a right hand-path bias. which paradoxically creates more karma as a consequence of it.

like jewish people, by trying to avoid karma or sin they created more karma and sin in their lives.

christianity have done this to an extreme.

karma is just an organic byproduct of inner imbalances that mirror you back in your life.

these imbalances are created all the time and it’s an ongoing thing unless you’re highly aware of them.

sure, u can do yoga and have a good diet to cover some of these imbalances, and those look like “general advice”.

but dealing w karma is a very personal thing that cannot be covered with general advice like yoguis do.

imo that type of advice creates more karma as a consequence in most cases. like yoguis perpetuating their role in telling people how they should live and shit, that’s bs and karma is biting their asses for doing that, and it’s also creating more karma in the ppl who follow them blindly and always need reasurance from some dude that tells them how to live

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Jesus was a cave man who came to India at the time of Buddha studied under him, went back taught Buddha’s teachings in his own words, so says Jerome Bixby. Can you prove it wrong?

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That was a cool movie I remember watching it long ago

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buddah, jesus are ascended masters of the brotherhood of light, came for a mission, teach us magic. “Miracles” can only happen do much times till its considered science…the romans and muslims eventually removed all secret knowledge , stored in rone

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Oh yes, I have seen it so many times, didn’t watch the second part and I think there is a TV series too. The movie is so good that it is better to remember the way how it ends.

Also do you know where it was shot, which state in US?

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No idea. I only ever watched this first movie, I didn’t know there were more

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if you want a movie that best represents Jesus watch avatar, walking on water is filling yourself up with aor element

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Great movie, it was recommended on a movie account I follow on Instagram. It’s amazing how simply it was filmed, but the direction and script are incredible

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funny how people walk on egg shells when talking about jesus like he’s religious when his own words he says we can do even better then he could become.Rome elite operated by 99lodge, they didn’t want people knowing what Jesus knew, not even a script he wrote…then made the bible latin so no one understands it and had to pay the Priest to forgive their sins, Catholic is still richest church after thousands years of datk ages…universe sent Christ, budda , Muhammad to bring balance but they still found a way to twist it.

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Yeah, a way of living to live the prarabdha karma. There are types of karmas, and this is the type of karma no one can avoid. It’s meant to be. I mean, can you stop the sun from rising from where it’s coming? No. No one does. Not even a mantra or any spiritual tools can do such a thing. It will against the law itself of the cosmic law.

Truthfully The only thing someone can do when dealing with harsh karma is to surrender to God. No one likes this, to be honest. Only 1% of the population will accepet this. You can see those sages. Living in mountains. But 99% of population? No. But that’s how you do it. Even in surrender mode, you still see the reality of the circumstances unfolding because that’s how this type of karma has to manifest. It’s a shooting arrow that keep shooting to hit the exact target.

Mantra or any spiritual teaching is to teach you to balance yourself to deal with the heavyweight of someone karmas. So instead of angry and hating the world. You accept that okay this is my life. And i chose to deal it with peace. This is what the true essence of doing spirituality…not jumping to different time like where you avoid your karma. What the hell lol

Also, speaking of avoiding, even suicide itself cannot remove prarabdha karma. It just adds more to it. The funny thing is, suicidal tendencies itself also part of this prarabdha karma. If someone has this tendency in their natal chart. It’s the influence of free will that chooses to end it. Combined with gochar of certain planet. Bang! It ends.:grimacing:

Your body. Your parents. And things related to your spouse and such are already Predestined i can mention lot but then. I know this will trigger some people. So its best to just forget it.

Regardless of what prarabdha karma someone has, remember that kriyaman karma exists. It exists in the now. We can shape our future reincarnation for better fruits in our next life. Creating good karma and doing dharma is the only way to enjoy those ripened fruits in the future. I mean hey. Anyone can also choose to be an ass too. But remember not many people love to face shit life right? :sweat_smile: its all again back to our awareness to navigate this game of life. Its simple. Just being aware of what we do. Thats true spirituality btw. Being spiritual doesnt have to be wearing certain cloth. Sometimes being a spiritual can also be like a punk rockstar. As long as your heart is good. Youre all set.

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still richest paedo church*

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sounds like a sentence. exactly what yaldabaoth wants.

if we’re gods why not do whatever u want bro,

trying to push an universal and unstoppable agenda sounds kinda paranoic.

i don’t believe in universals, any type of absolutes or unions are destined to dissolution into chaos, same as any form of cosmic order.

if i can ask Apep or Satan to swallow my karma when i truly need it, they’d be fine with it.

chaos doesn’t obey laws.

if chaos wants u to destroy your ego through karma that’s fine though.

but suffering just because the universe wants it, i say that’s bs.

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Remember we are souls yes the essence is eternal

but we live in mortal body lol. We are not the one who cheated the game like Svarbhanu.

( rahu) is the only demon that cheated the game of mortality.

Soeaking of how rahu became immortal

I talked about this in my channel.

They’re not just story. Its a real life event btw. Just to fix my statement in my video.

You dont have to believe any of these to see the manifestation of karma itself. Its already on the moment you walk in this life. And its active until your atma is out. And find its new suit.

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ye, astrological placements seems like a huge chunk of karmic baggage.

demons are highly tied to planets, as they represent the shadow of each planet within the solar system, so it’s possible to transcend astrological karma through achiving a higher demonic state of self.

most ppl live in their low demonic selves, aka: complaining about shit, being cuck slaves to society, etc

being ur “higher self”, as many newage and white magickal ppl teach only gets u so far

true shadow work is becoming a demon and eating all the crap from urself and ppl around u, in our current world filled w so much crap that brings a better homeostatic state for evolution than trying to become a being of pure light

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But you forgot about the 3 main pillar of karmas…which i already explain there up there :sweat_smile:

Sanchita Karma is the karma’s that being stored. Hasn’t manifest yet in this life. You can burn this type of karma through mantra/spiritual practices

Prarabdha karma ( current life) this is the one that no one cant avoid. Its already manifesting. The arrow cannot be taken back once its started. You already live through it right now.

Kriyaman Karma is the karma of the future what i mean future. (Free will) that let you decide to navigate the Prarabdha karma.

Kriyaman karma also can reshape the future reincarnation. Depends on your will how to navigate the Prarabdha karma that is currently manifesting.

So, technically, whatever you have in this lifetime, until your death comes, from there you no longer have ties to prarabdha karma. Its focus is now on the unmanifest karma that’s called Sanchita Karma.

So if you just focus on Kriyaman Karma, which most spiritual people do, they usually don’t care about Prarabdha Karma. This means that whatever life circumstances you face are just there. Your focus is only on the will to reshape for better outcomes in the next life.

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Even shadow works itself cannot undo prarabdha karmas. No one cant…even any lords that has lived through this earth.

How so?​ If mantras or any spiritual teaching “fixed everything” and “were everything,” then no saint or sage would ever have suffered. Yet, we can see Ramana Maharshi died of cancer. Not because he is evil. My lord. He is one of the great person that walked through this life. But how come he suffered? This is also part of prarabdha karma…and Lord Rama suffered years of exile. Did they have the "wrong mantra or wrong spiritual teaching? Of course not. They simply honored the Prarabdha Karma…

Like i said though. This might trigger some people who read this…but the truth is…free will in itself is just illusion. That being created by prabhadha karma…i can actually mention lot of things here too but then again it might really trigger some individuals…

So you know what! Lets focus on Kriyaman Karma…lets make lot of good karmas so that we can enjoy that fruits in the next reincarnation.

Remember everyone is different. Some of us might enjoy that good fruits. And some have to suffer. Its not truly suffering though if you look on the bigger pictures. Its a cleansing…so whatever type of cleansing we went through in this life. Keep our focus to follow the dharma life. :star2:.

You know, it’s like Jesus too, from the Abrahamic point of view. Jesus died for our sins so he could save us. All he asked was for us to love life, even if life itself hurt us… to keep that innocent soul. Then heaven is yours.

So to be completely honest. Is life is already set in stone? The hard truth is. Yes.

As long as your atma live in this budh loka. The praprhdha karma is actively giving you all things. That are meant for you. Even the people. Life. Money. Sex. Partner. Sickness. Happiness. Sucess. Failure. And so many…

Back again to the importance of dashas. ( the set in stone ) These are the one that deliver your fruits. If someone is meant to be successful. In this life. Despite of the hardship. If it is written in the ( dasha sequence) that person will be successful…100% it will be…remember please dont hate me for saying this lmao.

Its indeed the heaviest realization you know. But the good thing about this though. You know all things has its timing and expiration dates. If the “bad” times are set in stone, the beautiful thing is that their end dates are also set in stone. No matter how difficult a Mahadasha feels, the mathematics of the Vimshottari Dasha system guarantee that it will change. It provides a light at the end of the tunnel that is mathematically certain. I don’t say this because to make things look right or sugar coating it. But its the ultimate truth of this cosmic order.

Lets focus again on Kriyaman Karma ( our little free will) much luvs :heart:

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Shadow work is not for clearing karma but to help no new karma gets generated. With shadow work if done diligently people stop reacting unconsciously preventing new impressions or grooves to be formed (if reacting happens often) in brain.

When you do shadow work you don’t just heal yourself you are healing a sandgrain amount in collective unconscious. This is what all gurus mean when they tell to have peace inside when dealing with the world so collectively negativity and evil can be kept in check.

New age people have to sell their products so they came up with the word Light Worker.

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I interacted with a few people on different platforms where they claimed, “Just do shadow work, bro things will change! Forget karma bro. Its just how you see it.”

Really though. If karma itself is how you see it. How come one tries to change it just because one feel unpleasant? Or what? When things feel good no need to change ? Thats karma too!

It’s just funny to me. There are people who genuinely believe doing shadow work will instantly remove all bad karma. :sob:. You mentioned it right about “new age” stuff These are pretty much out of control situations. That is quite misleading. And downright scary.

Also, (the cautious people) the ones who completely avoid past tenses or negative words such as “saying.” ( my life is shit) and if they affrims these it will become absolute in their reality. I mean like what? :joy:
I mean, hey. Being positive minded can help with being positive toward life itself and is actually psychologically beneficial. But words can’t alter the condition of life events, such as altering life from this to another level of living.

Still being positive minded can, for sure, tackle life in a positive way despite the hardship.

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Words have power, words do affect your internal and external environment. Word is nothing but materialisation of thoughts into sound, a happy mind can’t speak negative words and a negative mind can’t speak happy positive words. When your mind is overloaded with so much of negative thoughts you inadvertently blurt or say things which you may regret later.

From one text - when you utter negative words they pollute your immediate environment which will force you to do things that are harmful to yourself and if you are stuck in that cycle your life is on the way to ruin.

Positive minded truly helps but people want extreme results with just words, to reach that level of mastery they would have to do decades of exercises and training like a true magician does. We are assaulted by so much of information as images and sounds in today’s world minds are getting number and dumber by the day.