So interesting learning about other cultures
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I know it sounds like tips are extra, but servers get 2-4.00 an hour. If the tip system didnât exist it would be minimum wage at $15 but only in a handful of states. Minimum wage is $7.20 in most of the country
Minimum wage is not paid because the servers are tipped and thats understood-
If they were paid $15 an hour tips would be extra.
But itâs not extra. They are actually grossly
Underpaid if theyâre not tipped
And yeah like youâve said I guess if restaurants were like Europe then they would pay them
Minimum wage.
But, they wouldnât make as good of a living either
So itâs just different.
Tips are extra if people are already making minimum wage which they likely are if they are a host and youâre ordering takeout. Hosts make minimum wage, and they get tipped for hanging your coats. Their tips are extra. Servers no
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I know minimum wage has gone up.
From $15? Wow
Well some states are higher than $15, a handful.
Many are below that.
(Sorry Jen, my brain misread your post.)
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Shouldnât a job that requires minimum skills also be at minimum wage level?
Literally anyone can do the job of a waiter.
You donât need to go 5 years to University.
You donât need to spend 3 years learning a craft.
You donât even need to finish school.
Waiters get minimum wage in most countries because the job itself requires minimum skills and minimum intelligence.
Again, this is not to offend anyone, just stating how the job market works.
For jobs that require high IQ and high skills (for which you have often to learn for many years) are also paid more and have more negotiation power with their salaries.
A pilot gets paid much more because most people cannot do what the pilot does.
The pilot went to school for many years and carries a huge responsibility when doing his/her job.
A waiter can be trained in a few hours and carries almost zero responsibility.
Thatâs why it is a minimum wage level job in most cases.
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Well⌠here they get less than minimum wage and youâd be surprised what it takes to be good at waiting tables. Try it :)
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Youâre pushing for low standard man.
Cafeteria system everywhere, no skills.
I donât know if youâre thinking McDonald and Pizzeria waiter or proper restaurant waiter.
It takes a surprisingly high IQ even McDonald chef, millions of people canât do that. You have to keep going all day.
On the scale of the USA with 300 million folks, tens of millions are not capable of being decent waiters. Thatâs not even considering the ones with disabilities, low endurance, bad shape, trouble walking and balancing stuff.
There are low regulations but high requirements
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Isnât it called âminimum wageâ because the law requires this as a minimum payment?
Are restaurants exempted from the law?
I am not buying this.
I have probably eaten in restaurants 500+ times during my life time.
This job requires minimum skill and intelligence compared to other jobs.
Maybe some basic social skills, but thatâs it.
It takes a lot more than that,
And I donât know how they get around minimum wage but they do
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I was speaking about regular waiter jobs in regular restaurants.
Not about McDonalds or similar food baracks.
Most of the staff that works here in Germany in the McDonalds restaurants canât even speak German (or English). You have to point with your finger at a picture to show them what you want.
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What ?
For real ?
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Agree with you and @DR_MANHATTAN A pretty good working memory is necessary along with good information encoding and retrieval pathways for optimal service.
Heâs surely downplaying it lol.
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Germans have had very low birth rate and worker shortages for decades, they import whatever.
Lot of them are not permanent.
He may not be wrong if he says they lowered the standards that much.
They canât be picky over there.
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But the job market dynamic says otherwise.
If being a waiter would require actual skills and knowledge, they would have a higher negotiational power with regards to their salaries. If they have none in most cases, it is proof that the restaurant owners can simply hire new waiters at any time without giving in to any requests from the existing waiters.
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Yes, last time I experienced this was a week ago, when I ordered a vegan burger in one of the McDonalds here in the city where I live.
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I guess this all becomes subjective tbh. A good waiter or waitress compared to a bad one. Also depends on the speed of the environment and the even the amount of customers.
But I do believe there are easier jobs for sure, such as bagging groceries at a grocery store lol. Much less âIQâ required.
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Is that an actual job you have in the US ?
I think Jaaj is saying it rough, but itâs not just about the intellectual demand, itâs also about how much people are willing to pay to get that value.
Apparently Germans are being tactical with the labor difficulties they have and decided it was not a priority.
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Yes. Literally. They stand there, bag groceries, and go clean up a spill every once in a while if someone drops milk or something.
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They can hire them. But the turnover is so fast because those who are going to turn over waiting tables (not last) are probably going through a transition, or they suck at it
Itâs an interesting job- because it does require a lot.
You need processing power like Jojo said. You have to juggle- fast. You need to be somewhat good at guerrilla warfare because requests are popping up all the time especially if youâre busy. You have to be in decent shape most time to handle a rush. You need to keep calm. You need to address not only the class of people sitting down but also the class of people in the kitchen and on the floor with you. All of this is happening, all at once. And you have no time to think very long- with a smile. Itâs performance. Itâs demanding, and the market doesnât always determine what youâre paid for how difficult your job is. Artists have a difficult job at times, mostly they arenât paid what theyâre worth. It can be subjective.
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