Life is Eternal and There is No Such Thing as "Death"

I kept looking through the topic search/history “did I post in here” and then I remembered the conversation. Awesome!

Some further NDE YouTube Channels:

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I have watched a lot of NDEs… almost all of them come from Christian faith. There are so many NDE channels on YouTube now a days. But I am yet to discover one that truly covers people from all faiths. There is a remarkable religious aspect to NDE and thus it becomes really necessary to get to know the accounts of people from all religious backgrounds like Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Islam etc. What happens to them after they die? When we get enough accounts of other faiths as well then only we can have a 360 degree perspective on life after death.

I am aware that astral plan is a thought responsive dimension and it gets consistent with one’s thoughts and beliefs. Thus it becomes even more important to get to know the experiences from all faiths.

So such NDE that show other deities besides Jesus or people from other religions … did they also see Jesus or did they come across other forms of God. If you come across such NDEs then do share.

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https://www.nderf.org/Archives/exceptional.html#

This is my favourite site to read ndes, and probably the biggest. It has over 5000! I reccomend reading the exceptional ones. It’s mostly text, but there is a search option if you are looking for something in specific.

https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1mira_s_nde.html

This one was written by a person with a Hindu background (very beautiful btw)

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Thanks for sharing… yes I have come across this website before but couldn’t find the specifics much. But maybe I will dig deeper. Thanks for the link

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I think there are certain religions where people are simply afraid of sharing their experiences. They are afraid for being called “crazy” or for “being involved with dark forces”.

At the same time the people from these cultures and religions are not speaking the languages in which most of the NDE material is published, or they don’t even have access to internet and libraries.

It makes mathematical sense that you will find the most NDE reports where people have access to these materials, speak the language, and most importantly, are not afraid to share their experiences with others.

There are still countries on this planet where even owning a simple book about astrology can get you stoned to death.

Additionally, most of these countries are also poor and underdeveloped with medieval hospital equipment, i.e. not many people are brought back to life to report their story in the first place.

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I am aware of all these factors and that’s why the reports are so disproportionate. And yet those are important cases to gather to have a wholesome view. I am always on lookout and will share if I find any. Actually most viewers are also Christian so they don’t bother about experiences from other backgrounds. But I guess eventually others will catch up

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Yeah, Christians are often very selective and seeking specifically for NDEs that would confirm their narrow religious worldview. But then in the process, they discover that there is much more to it and not according to Bible and Church lol.

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Also, Near Death Experiences, are not actually “near” to death.

This term comes from the misconception of the medical establishment who are not realizing that there is no such thing as “death” in the first place.

So they think it is an experience “near to death”, because death means no consciousness. They don’t understand that consciousness is eternal and cannot cease to exist.

A more correct term would be “Returning Home Experience.”

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I like your terminology :slightly_smiling_face:
It indeed is returning home experience

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That’s a really good one btw. Quote from it:


"I asked, ‘But if this Consciousness alone is real, the world was an illusion? Then where did it come from?’

It replied, ‘Like all manifestation, the world too is the creation of the great illusion or great delusion, which being the Creative aspect of this Supreme Consciousness, or the Lord, is the divine movie-projector of life, in the all-powerful play of the realm of Creation. Just as a mirage in the desert disappears when viewed from a certain perspective, your life as Arti on earth has disappeared, when viewed from the perspective of the Divine Self, where you are now. Only the eternal is real; and from the viewpoint of that Reality, all that is non-eternal, disappears. Yet of course, you, being eternal Atman (the soul) can still view the ‘world of illusion’ if you wish.’

"I asked, ‘So my life as Arti never really existed at all, it was an illusion?’

It replied, ‘Oh, it existed; just as a dream exists, or a movie, or a mirage.’

I continued questioning, ‘So the world, was just a figment of my imagination? How did I create it? With my thoughts and desires?’

The reply echoed all around me, ‘Y-e-s-s-s-s!’ as it reverberated within my being."


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By the way, the materialist argument that “the experience is a hullicination happening all inside your head” is easily debunked by the fact that people who were born blind, can suddenly fully see when they have a NDE or when they go out of body.

Just one of many articles about this:

https://medium.com/@stuartz2727/the-clearest-evidence-that-near-death-experience-nde-is-real-comes-form-ndes-who-are-blind-from-779ae180d4b9

…and also deaf people can suddenly hear when having a NDE or OBE.

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Blind people with vision during OBEs

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I have also experienced 360° vision by myself when being out of body.

The physical brain does not even have the circuits and neural connections to process visual perception with 360° field of view!

But the astral brain does, and so it is really fun to see/perceive the whole room all at once.

I an way, your visual perception becomes something like based on this :joy::

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Discovery of a Third State

Scientists have discovered a “third state” beyond the traditional boundaries of life and death, where cells from deceased organisms can continue to function and even develop new capabilities. According to a study published in Physiology, this groundbreaking research challenges conventional understanding of cellular biology and could have significant implications for regenerative medicine and our definition of death.

Xenobots and Anthrobots

In a paradigm-shifting discovery, researchers led by Professor Peter Noble at the University of Washington and Alex Pozhitkov at City of Hope National Medical Center have identified a “third state” that challenges traditional notions of life and death[1][2]. This state emerges when certain cells from deceased organisms continue to function and even develop new capabilities under specific conditions, such as the provision of nutrients, oxygen, or bioelectrical stimuli[2][3]. The findings, published in the journal Physiology, suggest that the transition between life and death may be more complex than previously thought, potentially redefining our understanding of cellular biology and the boundaries of existence[1][4].

Potential Mechanisms Explored

Researchers hypothesize that specialized channels and pumps embedded in cell membranes may act as intricate electrical circuits, generating signals that allow cells to communicate and execute specific functions in this “third state”[1][2]. Environmental factors, such as temperature and energy availability, play crucial roles in determining whether cells can enter this state postmortem. Additionally, variables like the organism’s age, health, sex, and species type influence the potential for cells to persist in this unique condition[3]. While the exact mechanisms remain unclear, ongoing research aims to uncover the fundamental processes that enable cellular survival and transformation beyond conventional definitions of life and death.

Implications for Medicine

The discovery of this “third state” opens up exciting possibilities for medical advancements. Anthrobots, sourced from an individual’s living tissue, could potentially be used as drug delivery systems without triggering unwanted immune responses[1]. These engineered biobots might also be employed to dissolve arterial plaque in atherosclerosis patients or remove excess mucus in those with cystic fibrosis[2]. Importantly, these cellular structures have a limited lifespan of up to 60 days, preventing the growth of potentially invasive cells[3]. This research not only provides new insights into cellular adaptability but also offers prospects for innovative treatments in regenerative medicine and personalized therapies[4].

Blurring Life-Death Boundaries

The discovery of a “third state” beyond traditional notions of life and death challenges our binary understanding of existence, blurring the lines between these seemingly distinct categories. This research reveals that the transition between life and death is more complex and nuanced than previously thought[1][2].

  • Continuum rather than binary: Instead of a clear-cut distinction between life and death, this discovery suggests a continuum where cellular activity and function can persist beyond conventional definitions of death[3].
  • Redefining death: The ability of cells to reorganize and develop new capabilities after an organism’s death may necessitate a reevaluation of how we define and determine death, both legally and medically[4].
  • Philosophical implications: This finding raises profound questions about the nature of consciousness, identity, and the boundaries of individual existence, potentially altering our understanding of what it means to be “alive” or “dead”[5].

These insights challenge us to adopt a more nuanced perspective on life and death, recognizing that the transition between these states may involve complex biological processes that extend beyond our traditional binary framework[6].

Longevity Implications and Potential

The discovery of the “third state” beyond life and death could significantly impact human longevity research and potential interventions. This new understanding of cellular plasticity and function after organismal death opens up novel avenues for exploring aging processes and developing longevity-enhancing strategies:

  • Regenerative medicine: The ability of cells to reorganize and develop new functions in the “third state” could lead to advanced tissue regeneration techniques, potentially reversing age-related damage in organs and tissues[1][2].

  • Cellular reprogramming: Insights from this research may inform new approaches to cellular rejuvenation, possibly allowing scientists to reset aging cells to a more youthful state without full reprogramming to stem cells[3].

  • Drug development: The creation of anthrobots and xenobots could revolutionize drug delivery systems, enabling more targeted and effective treatments for age-related diseases[4]. This may help extend healthspan and potentially lifespan.

  • Understanding aging mechanisms: Studying how cells persist and function in this intermediate state could provide new insights into the fundamental processes of cellular aging and death, potentially revealing new targets for anti-aging interventions[5].

By expanding our understanding of cellular biology beyond traditional boundaries, this research may ultimately contribute to developing more effective strategies for extending human healthspan and potentially lifespan.

Sources
[1] physiol.00004.2024 https://journals.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/physiol.00004.2024
[2] ‘Third state’ beyond life and death discovered by scientists - The Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/third-state-beyond-life-death-33685380
[3] The “Third State” That Lies Beyond The Boundaries Of Life And Death The “Third State” That Lies Beyond The Boundaries Of Life And Death | IFLScience
[4] ‘Third state’ of existence beyond life and death confirmed by scientists "Third state" of existence beyond life and death confirmed by study - Earth.com

Source: Perplexity (curated by ElleMC)

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