Do you think earth or “this realm” could be transformed into “higher plane” if enough humans would be in oneness consciouseness, or earth would remain as it is and those humans would just reincarnate in higher planes?
Thank you.
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I don’t know but I thought of this and I think so.
There are also planes not so much higher than this one where humans exist (like the pure land). They are not populated by many people though.
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Thank you Sammy.
This is a very helpful answer.
Okay, I think I see what the challenge in this is.
For most souls it takes an eternity to make their own unconscious conscious and face the shadow just for their own soul alone.
Now you are asking me to embrace ALL souls in existence and accept everyone’s shadows as well?
#NextLevelChallenge
I would assume it is easy to be in oneness all the time when all the beings that you’re surrounded with most of the time are also all super high vibe themselves?
They only encounter low vibe beings when they are trying to help those in the lower planes (like humans)?
That’s what it feels like when you and all your parallel incarnations merge back into the Higher Self. All the acquired personality structures are still there with all the individual pieces of consciousness, but at the same time it is the feeling of total blissful reunification of all that the soul has been longing for while being incarnated on earth.
The longing for “home” is the longing for oneness with our Higher Self and all our parallel incarnations.
From my experience there are only a few ways to make the pain of this longing more endurable:
- Increase Self Love
- Astral travel to your Higher Self
- NEW: Incorporate Oneness?
This still sounds very abstract and non-tangible to me but I will try to understand.
Now that sounds like an actual benefit to me.
Speedrunning and skipping boring game levels 
Is this one of the higher astral plane areas around the earth?
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Hmm, interesting question…
Some religions and spiritual paths (some Christians and maybe some Jews, Idk for sure) believe in a Paradise on Earth and that God/The Divine will bring His Presence Fully Here, on this Plane (or maybe just our Planet, maybe, Idk), or, to use your words, thus realm would be transformed into a Higher One (besides Christians, some Spiritual folks, from New Age, to certain Yogis and Gurus and maybe others too, talked about a “New Age” or “A New Earth”)…
Interesting Concept…
Since We Are Part of Source or Source Itself/One With The Source (anyway), then This too should Be or should Become a Possibility - Personally, I would LOVE IT!
IMAGINE EARTH WITHOUT SUFFERING Or with limited/minimal suffering and a Real State/Quality of Oneness, felt and lived by People…
I wouldn’t care about any other realm.
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But isn’t that the logical consequence of integrating your own shadow? That you can accept, love and forgive other people’s shadow bc you have already embraced your own ?
Everything that irritates me in others, has been done by me at some point, somewhere and vice versa. When I heal and start to understand and forgive myself, I can do the same with others.
That doesn’t mean that I have to tolerate anything.
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One thing to note is that one does not seek onenees in the path. You don’t think ‘I want oneness’ and work towards it. You just keep working on yourself, dissolving your limitations and raising your vibration and then this question comes up naturally in a way that easily resonates.
By the time you reach this question in the path, you understand why this is to be done to move forward. You also feel capable of doing so. It still is the hardest decision to make ever and even feels like you’re going to actually die. It becomes a block for lots of people and they return to egoic consciousness after. When you do let go though, you realize how there really was nothing to fear.
From the perspective we are at now though, it seems like an impossible thing to do. And thats understandable. Most of us are still fully dealing with our shadow self and other people’s toxic energies to us. That should be our focus.
In fact, a great example of how oneness is not for people still developing is kundalini awakenings. The reason many of these awakenings go wrong is because they spontaneously happen while they are still developing and fully in ego consciousness. The mixture of oneness and fully attached ego is very distorting and causes all sorts of problems.
Yes, for sure. It is basically effortless. In fact as a human being, if you happen to be in a room with high vibe humans who are in oneness, you will be in oneness too or some form of it.
Pretty much. Low vibe beings don’t mess with high vibe beings but high vibe beings do sometimes go down and affect low vibe beings… like humans.
Great way to put it! That’s wholeness/oneness. Life would be very different if you had conscious access to all you have ever learned. And you do actually. Its your intuition. Our egos (beliefs, limiting beliefs, triggers, ext) limit our connection to that higher intuition.
The longing for “home” is the longing for oneness with our Higher Self and all our parallel incarnations.
Like I said, I think oneness is a bit misunderstood in that it means that we have no individuality. It doesn’t. As you say, our higher self has the accumalation of all our past lives/parallell incarnations. The higher self is a: fragment of light that the universe/god/tao focuses in on. You are god in that fragment of light having an individual experience that is still meshed/a part of all other individual experiences. Everyone elses experience is still yours as well. Everything is everything.
I think part of what that pain you speak of from longing to be home is a matter of feeling disconnected. We live our lives consciously disconnected from source by focusing in on our egos and no exactly in tune with the world/universe. We wear this mask so long and get pulled in all sorts of directions, and it begins to feel tiresome. Like something is missing. Like our actual face lol.
Returning home is a matter of doing what you are doing. Dissolving your limiting beliefs, attachments, accepting what you reject of yourself and the world. As you do this, your higher self becomes more available in that… you become more of your higher self.
The thing is you don’t have to astral travel to your higher self. You ARE your higher self. The higher self is here, having a human experience. That is the ‘self’ under the mask. The higher self is the universal version of you, from the focal light point of your awareness.
Hmm, something came to mind. We are all the same person, split into an infinite amount of versions of the same person. Experiencing ourselcves in totally new ways and growing in a totally new direction as each version.
Lol speedrunning is a good way of putting it haha. Yeah, it’s a matter of besting this game and moving on to better levels.
Actually pure lands is still rather 3 dimensional. As in like vibrational frequency of 3.4 or something like that (made that number up but you get the ideal). It is very close to us. There are planes right above us that are still very physical and beings that are physical that can see us but you can’t see them. Like for example, in the forests, there are physical creatures that exists in planes riiight above this one.
Can you ask questions as to how it sounds abstract and non tangible? I agree that it sounds abstract and non tangible and questions help me find ways to better conceptualize these kinds of things. Honestly, when you all begin having these experiences, you will all realize how seemingly impossible it is to put into words. There isnt language for it really 
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Im really grateful that you take your time and make effort to explain those things to us. Thank you
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yesterday i was observing my 1 year old little sister pushing hard trying to “get inside” my dad, as if she was going to complete herself by forcing her head into his stomach.
i’ve came to the realization that this artificial seek for completion is what desire is.
an artificial and material subtitute for the completion and oneness we are longing and precedes our existence. the negative side for the actual completion that emptiness and void is.
this is why desire is led by difference and vertical relationships of power.
meanwhile oneness is led by indifference and horizontal relationships of love.
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I agree, the desire itself seems to be caused feeling of not being complete. We as a humans often tend to try to fill this void with “outisde” things, which appears as a big mistake to me and as a result of the illusion.
We are all complete as we are right now.
There is all divinity and bliss inside of us every moment, we just need to accept it.
The feeling of “lacking” something is an illusion and a part of “matrix”
We are all complete, wonderful and perfect every second, every moment, we just need to open ourselves to it.
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I sometimes wonder if visualizing, fantasizing, imagining, listening to subliminals, dreaming about others is violation their free will?
It may not even be specific person, some techniques involve re-imagining past happenings, and by imagining something that involves other people might influence them, similary, some affirmations include others either in broad or specific sense, like
“my boss wants to give me promotion” or “my coworkers like me”. You may influence other people this way, yes?
But then again, you are"only" changing your believs or daydreaming, right?
So is it violation of free will, or not?
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Whether we use affirmations, visualizations or we are just kind to our bosses, it’s still self interest at work (first of all), same goal, different ways to achieve it l, although I can’t answer for sure and maybe we are infringing on others free will, but again, that’s what you want and it’s not like you are harming anyone, you just want to manifest a higher salary - protesters (workers in any field) are achieving their goals through passive violence, which is obviously against their superiors will.
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I believe here it is the intent that counts.
When god thinks about you, his/hers intent is that of pure love and you are fine with it, right?
Your intent consists of what you consciously choose to think about someone but also, and more importantly, what beliefs you have about that person stored in your subconscious mind. Your intent is the sum of both.
Either way, the person you are thinking about has to at least subconsciously somehow to agree to receive your intent in the first place to be affected by it.
If you try to force your intent onto someone, this will create resistance and negative emotions in them towards you.
You cannot fake your true intent, because the Subconscious Mind (yours and theirs) always know the truth and the true intent behind something.
And then also, every intent has its own vibration.
If you are high vibrational being, then it is unlikely that intents from low vibe beings are able to reach you or affect you. You will simply subconsciously reject those.
The more loving your intent is, the more likely it will be accepted by other’s subconscious minds (unless they have severe blocks and trauma who reject any love energies).
So, I believe that intent and its vibration is everything.
Is your intent directed towards negentropy or towards entropy?
As I often mention, all consciousness decides collectively with each other.
All just speculation of course…
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Amazing answers! I spoke with Dream about other topic and took occasion to ask similiar question, He said influencing others even in our own layer of reality, in an entropic action and will have repercussions.
So I guess its better if our visualizations/ affirmations/ fantasies etc only involve us and not other beings.
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No, I think influencing others is fine.
Again, your true intent counts.
If your intent is coming from a genuine place of love and desire to help (consciously and subconsciously), while also respecting other’s free will, then it is fine and will most likely be subconsciously accepted by the other person to play along, and then co-manifest the new reality.
All manifestation is co-manifestation with others.
For this to happen, on a certain level they have to agree with your input.
But you are responsible for your input (intent).
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Your intent comes from your own vision of reality which not always coincides with the opinions of another person / or facts
This way you may see X thing as something good for a person while in fact it’s not. This will be considered as an imposition
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If your intent comes from a place of love and respecting other’s free will, it will be automatically be focussed on manifesting a reality that is of a positive outcome for everyone involved.
Of course, if you are not aware of this, your intent will be mostly what your ego believes is right, and this will create backlash from others.
Humanity is basically egos clashing against each other all the time and co-manifesting misery instead of true cooperation.
All consciousness decides collectively with each other.
Most of this consciousness is the Subconscious Mind, that’s why most people aren’t even aware of their own intents towards others.
“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will manifest your reality and you will call it fate” – this quote also applies here 100%.
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Technically you would be already violating their free will if you already have beliefs to influence others to dislike you.
I don’t think there is free will at all, unless we are dead and our bodies are gone.
While we are in this life we are limited and determined by others, because if our freedom starts where the freedom of other ends for a civil society we are already not free and parasited by our projected limits and demands of others, aswell as others are parasited by their projected limits and demands of us.
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I am pretty sure you guys are misunderstanding what Dream meant by that.
If “influence” = manipulation or force, coming from a place of separation and incongruence between the conscious and subconscious intent, then yes, it is an entropic action.
If “influence” = cooperative co-manifestation, coming from a place of oneness, then no, it is not an entropic action, as everyone’s free will is respected.
It is impossible to not influence your environment and co-manifest with others.
The only factor that matters is by how much you are aware of what you are manifesting. And then the ability, with your free will, to choose a more negentropic manifestational outcome.
Also, we have the Pure Influence NFT…
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