Reincarnation of Nations, Nations and Groups of People as Huge Souls, Living and Evolving- - - History Thread - The Many Manly Men of History, War and Civilizations

Well, I meant ethnically, not by nationality. :smiley:

Sometimes have heard stuff like up until the beginning of the 20th century, their, or your, language seemed much more Slav-like, just they did then a lot of effort to further “latinize” their population.

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I will write about that too.
The core part of our language is Latin based, it’s not Slavic, yet for centuries, Slavs either ruled directly these lands or had their religious and cultural legacy still present.

I will come back later.

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I am sold.

When can I finally watch it?

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Well, these were just some of my speculations and some things which I have read …

Hopefully, they will be included, at the very least some intrigue.

Well, heres the small data which I have managed to gather…

There are not nearly enough samples to determine precisely the genetic makeup of the current population of Romania, since it is so genetically diverse.

Do we and Slavs share some genes?
Sure.

Are we Slavs?
No.

And that is because Romanians also share all the major haplogroups, in general Eastern Europe is more diverse than the West.

Here are some maps which I’ve downloaded:








I1 map Europe 1

As you can see, Romanians share genes with almost All of Europe and Beyond, we are quite diverse genetically.

So, again, are Slavs relatives?
Sure. We do have R1a, but it’s not that dominant, compared to Russia or Ukraine, for example.

Plus, all the Slavic countries, whether Eastern or Western or Southern Slavs, they all mixed with the local ancient/pre-Slavic tribes and formed new ethnic groups. Slavs are quite diverse actually.
Look at Poland, lots of R1b (compared to other Eastern Slavic Countries), for example.

We share things in common, but we are not (exactly) the same.

All Europeans share things, from genes, to cultural stuff, to religion, yet, each European population has kind of a unique (ad)mixture of things.

This is my view, of course.
All other views are OK. :sweat_smile:


Now, for the language part…

Using modern letters, I will add a text, from an older Romanian document, from 1521 A.D., since the script was Slavonic centuries ago:

" I pak să știi domniia-ta că au venit un om de la Nicopoe (= [Nicopole]) de mie mi-au spus că au văzut cu ochii lui că au trecut ceale corăbii ce știi și domniia-ta pre Dunăre în sus.

I pak să știi că bagă den toate orașele câte 50 de oamini să fie în ajutor în corăbii"

I can understand the text and it’s quite close to modern Romanian, yet has a few words which I didn’t know, until I read about them.

The language is clearly Latin based, well, that is the opinion of linguists throughout Europe and Beyond.

It had (we still use some of those words) lots of borrowed words from Slavonic, from Hungarian, and less from Turkish, Greek or German, among them.

In the XIX th Century it borrowed A LOT from French.

Also, the Capital, Bucharest, came to be called “Le Petite Paris” (the small Paris).

Borrowing from other languages it’s not unique, especially from French, which was the Biggest European language back then (before English overtook it in mainland Europe).

Nowadays, we borrow a lot of English words.

To get to the basics, we borrowed many words from the Slavs, in the past, but the core of our language, was/is Latin based.

Anyway, that’s enough replying for today. :sweat_smile:

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Although I’m quite Enthusiastic when it comes to all things Roman, I have not managed to watch that show, I barely saw a little bit.
It is definitely on my list.

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This one is really great.
I have watched it 2x.
The actor (James Purefoy) who is playing Mark Antony is absolutely top level :ok_hand:

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Do you want the title to remain the same, or it’s better to add some small changes?

(example: About Slavs and Romanians ; Rome in Modern Fiction - - - History Thread - The Many Manly…? ) (or just History Thread - The Many Manly…? )

  • One Stable Title is Better.
  • A few More Words, which would change according to the latest subjects, it Would be Good to have them.
  • Either way it’s fine for me.

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It is quite an old show (2005), but it’s a gold one. Although you shouldn’t expect it to be like the movie Gladiator, it has a similar dramatisation and feel to that of Game of Thrones, with its complex political landscape, betrayals, and compelling characters. It’s aimed at a more mature audience than a young adult.

I’ve seen it around 3x.

Well, most actors back then were top-notch because they were cast based on talent, skill, and suitability for the script, not diversity. Also, many actors use to bring captivating gimmicking strategies that aligned with their craft so that they could attract the attention of the audience and stand out as a unique individual performer.

You can kiss goodbye to all that.

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James Purefoy was also excellent in Iron Clad.

I fully agree. I think Disney is putting Ariana Grande into one of their upcoming movies. So akward… :laughing:

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Yes, I know, I studied these things.

That was just a half-joke.

It just appeared to me funny how much “nationality” and stuff like that are to a lot of extent circumstantially and politically crafted.

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I don’t think that’s always anything to do with diversity or being Woke; sometimes they just cast other celebrities with huge fan bases to help sell the movie they’re making. It’s a bit like the movies Dunkirk ‘Harry Styles’ and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword ‘David Beckham’. In the past, they usually made cameo appearances, but nowadays, they can play a significant role in movies.

I’ve just seen the trailer and a few clips; it looks like a decent movie. It seems very underrated because I’ve never heard of it until now, but I’ll definitely give that a watch this week for sure when I get time. Thanks for the recommendation :+1:

I’m astonished at how violent and gory this movie is. I was expecting it to be a PG-13 Sean Connery or Kevin Costner kind of family movie, like Robin Hood or First Knight :laughing:… Back in the old days, when the English had bollocks, is all I can say.

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Most famous Roman:

Summary

Russel Crowe

   😂
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They were the Conquerors of Countless territories, Founders of France, Germany and other Countries, and they were The Defenders of Europe and Christendom: The Frankish People.

Here is a Good documentary and Quite Fast Paced, showing their tumultuous Rise and Reign which lasted for Centuries:

Their Legacy is Europe and the fact that Catholicism evolved the way it did, plus, în Western Francia, they adopted the Roman Ways, Language and Customs, giving Birth to the French People.

For centuries, The Byzantines called All Westerners with the apelative (of) Franks.

Their descendandants, the French people, exerted a Huge Influence over England, much of Europe and even the Holy Land, and they spread their culture everywhere, including in the Americas, Africa and Asia, Centuries later.

If they would have been more opportunistic, America (or the territory of the USA) and the World would speak French today.

For a while, the world did spoke French (or rather the Courts of European Monarchs, which conquered the World), the world language isn’t called Lingua Franca (current holder of the title is English) for nothing.

Edit: the History of France and the history of Europe and the World viewed from their perspective is quite a Huge subject and I barely mentioned a few things.

Of course, the Gauls were the first documented rulers of what is today France, and then came the Romanization and then finally the Franks, which cemented the future of France, or rather reforged it.

Feel free to add anything you wish about their history or well, any other subject if you so desire, this is merely my suggestion.

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I want to bring into discussion the idea of Ancient Civilizations, I mean precursors to ours, maybe they Reached Peak Heights both technologically and otherwise, and left Earth or maybe settled inside it, but also there’s the possibility that they Ascended from this plane altogether.

What do you think?
Any thoughts?
Or Any sources you want to share?

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The History of One of THE Most Fascinating People in the History of Our Species/The World…

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@JAAJ Ere I was just thinking about that Ironclad medieval movie you told me about some time back ago on this thread.

I just couldn’t stop laughing at this scene where King John’s shouting at that wool merchant over Magna Carter. “I am the bloood!!.. I am gods right hand!!!” :joy:

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I’ve read this somewhere, perhaps even in multiple locations, anyway, the idea is that Each Nation, Each Group, Each Tribe, and if course, Each Place, all of them have Souls, all of them are Archsouls (sort of) (well, maybe just Egregores, or maybe something more or something else, Idk), they are born, they grow, they die, then they are Reborn…

One poetic example is the struggle between the European Powers, especially Mediterranean ones, esoecially Greece and Rome, on the Western Side, and Carthage and Egypt and Persia and others, all of them returning throughout history, the conflicts are even similar, sometimes…

Carthage was destroyed by Rome, and later, centuries later, a new power rose which humbled Rome, which sacked that Mighty City and put its Empire on its knees, we might say they were the destroyers of Western Roman Empire… and look where that power resided, look at that kingdom, at its territories…, I’m speaking of the Kingdom of the Vandals and the Alans…


Conflicts might go even further than we thought…
They are carried on, even generations later, by the Spirits of the old Enemies, Reborn and ready to battle, again and again…

Different names, different eras, maybe even different languages, yet they continue their wars… (well, I’m not saying forever) (also, certain battles might have ended, certain disputes are long gone, yet obviously not all… )

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Maybe Karma takes care of all aggressors, of all accounts, of all debts…
Throughout the ages.

Nothing remains unpayed (?)…

Individuals have karma, so groups made of individuals should have karma too…

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