Pros & Cons of Being An Organ Donor

General Discussion
#1

This is something that has been on my mind for a while now.

I myself believe being an organ doner is great and the right thing to do, but a part of me feels like, could we be passing on the trapped emotions which may be stuck in our organs to the receiver and they will have to deal with that emotional “damage” there after also?

Heart: Joy, happiness, love
Liver: Anger, frustration, resentment
Lungs: Grief, sadness, loss
Kidneys: Fear, anxiety
Spleen/Stomach: Worry, overthinking, pensiveness

I know we have all of these amazing fields to help us heal and release all of these issues, but if they were unresolved, and God forbid we passed away tomorrow, would giving a heart for example, which is in good health physically, but emotionally it is so blocked off, would the doner who receives my heart end up having to deal with all of these issues also?

This is where I feel the con comes into place, even though they will hopefully live for a very long time afterwards, I feel somehow guilty of passing on this emotional blockage to this person to have to deal with. If this is the case of course.

I’d love to hear what others feel about this if anyone cares to share :slightly_smiling_face:

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#2

There’s obviously something to what you’re saying, but it’s about relative harms and benefits. People who need organ transplants are in extremis. And they are most likely in the grips of fear and anxiety. Whatever negative force the donors organ brings is probably within the recipients bounds of experience. It’s like a cab driver with a bad vibe—if you need the ride, it’s manageable.

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#3

Seems like a very small price to pay vs dying. I don’t think dying people are that picky.

Now, my real concern would be being saved by a medical team knowing my death would open pandora’s box and release my meat on the “organ market”. If for some reason I don’t make it, lots of surgery, medical bills later it could save 5 people. I’m sure they’d keep me nice and comfortable so my meat won’t spoil. If you can’t save me, keep the pieces you like.

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#4

Organ donation is far from an ideal solution. Even if the organ is completely perfect and with no emotional blockages at all, recipients still have to take immune suppressants the rest of their lives and it could still reject at any time. But, until they find a way to grow new organs in a lab, it’s the best we’ve got.

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#5

Pros:
You are probably saving someone’s physical body, extending their incarnation.

Cons:
When you physically die yourself, your physical body gets dissolved into it elements and the energy connected to it gets released, allowing you to move into the upper astral planes more easily because there are less energetic links between your astral body and physical earth.
When the person whom you have donated your organs to lives much longer with your organs in them, then the energetic link holding you tied to physical earth may remain for much longer in place.

All this is my personal opinion only.

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#6

That is interesting. I suppose there could be an upside as you might be able to use that connection to hep the recipient in other ways.

Of course, there’s a very dark sci-fi/occult direction this could take. Philip K. Dick’s book Ubik comes to mind.

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#7

I have actually read this in this German book on NDE research:

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#8

It would be a fascinating topic for that astral channel you’re always linking to. When I was in East Asia, they were not to keen on organ donation. Maybe something like this is the reason.

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#9

Please feel free to submit it to them.

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#10

When we are organ donors, we aren’t dead when the organs get donated… the body is kept alive for the procedure. *

All are cells are sentient, energetic and have memory…

There are stories of people pucking up a certain sport after they received an organ, and lateron finding out their donor used to love that sport.

Same with a girl that could attest what had happened in an unsolved death, as she witnessed it, well that bodypart was present… she had gotten the irgan from a murder… (so definitely check who you get your organs from, references would be needed, I’d say!!)

*So, another con could definitely be… the fact that the body will be taken away asap, to be kept alive for the doctors to be able to transfer the found matches… That would make the process of saying goodbye, by those left behind, different… as the body is at the hospital… not at home or alike.

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#11

Really? :flushed: I never knew this. Damn. I have been gullible enough to think that once it takes then its smooth sailing from there on out. Interesting.

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#12

I see. I would have assumed that we would still have some type of a connection or cord to the physical body or earth in general until we do ascend to the astral planes, but I thought this would be severed when we do reach it. I wouldn’t have thought that the organs themselves came In to play but it does make sense.

#13

I have heard a few stories of this also.

There was one that used to stick out in my mind about a guy who took his own life by shooting himself and then the person who received his heart started experiencing a series of psychological and behavioral changes despite having no prior history of mental health issues. That guy also ended up taking his own life in the same fashion as the doner.
I think he even married the widow of the donor if I’m not mistaken.

I’ll have to find out more about this, it’s interesting but it’s making me feel uncomfortable even just thinking about it. Damn.

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#14

My understanding is that the goal of organ matching is to get an organ with cell-surface antigens that are similar enough to the recipient’s that the body won’t go all out to get rid of it, but only identical twins have exactly the same cell-surface antigens, so unless you’re receiving an organ from your identical twin the body is going to still try to kill it unless the immune system is at least somewhat suppressed. Usually immune suppressants do the job and it’s pretty smooth sailing afterwards, but in some people the immune response can still be just too strong.

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#15

Does anyone experience after you donate blood you feel like have low vibration?

#16

There is a black market for organs.
I would NEVER consent to give my organs after I’m dead, I have very low trust in medics, now, give them an “OK” (incentive from influential people who need organs) as well, and you might not survive the next surgery.

These things happen in Romania and not only here for a while already.

So the title is Pros and Cons…
Pros: some wealthy guy’s son just got a new liver - Yay, Papa “Took Care” of Everything.

Cons: someone tragically died during a surgery, the medics “couldn’t do anything” …
Oh, he signed that his organs should be donated to others, should something tragic “happen” …

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#17

There’s also criminals that murder or kidnap people for their organs too since each organ can be valued from $200k onward depending on the organ. Whilst rare in affluent Western countries, the victims are usually the homeless (not indexed) or they’re from countries of war and extreme poverty. Not saying it cant happen to anyone in any country, just saying that criminals look for opportunity so that there’s less risk of been caught.

A heart is really difficult to take out under an emergency situation because you need to be partially alive for them to take it out and constant resuscitation has to be aggressive in order to succeed. Once out, the heart has to preserved very quickly otherwise the heart is no good anymore if you’re pronounced dead.

Lets say if you’re in a car accident for instance, you’re getting rushed to hospital and the doctors know you’re going to die, so they commence removal of your heart ASAP. Would you honestly want to go through the experience of them taking your heart out while you’re still alive?

Here’s another thing you should know is that depending on what country you’re from, organ donations are filed automatically without the individuals consent unless you personally make a process to opt out of it. Check the laws of your country.

I’ve read about some cases before of people who have had heart transplants where they’ve developed new characteristics that was once from the previous owner.

For example, I once read this story about this man who received a heart transplant that belonged to a person who use to be very sporty and enjoyed running. This lead to the new owner developing new desires and behavioural traits as such. It was like something out of a video game when you unlock new shit like abilities or powers :laughing:

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#18

That’s exactly my point :ok_hand:

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#19

My sister is waiting a liver and kidney transplant. I read the material for kidney transpmants( she asked me if I would consider donating one of my kidneys) and the survival rate for 5 years is 80% but the survival rate for kidney alone after 10 years is only 50%, so not smooth sailing. After watching the polish directors doco about young children from Poland/ Ukraine being sold for organ parts, there is something about the whole idea that you can f**k up your organs by bad health decisions( even if you gave a predisposed genetic condition like my sister- I have the same one. But my life decisions have been better tha hers, and I know that organs can improve in functiin, if not regenerate like the liver and heart- so there is something arrogant about the whole idea which has left the industry open to ethical abuse.

#20

Ps, if I was blind, I would definitely like a new retina!!!