Should have asked a long time ago

[Imogen]

The biggest planet such Jupiter. Saturn. And ketu though ketu isn’t actually a planet. It’s more is Shadow. But ketu rules the entire moska house.

So ketu is important in this part so it’s big part of enlightenment. Any of these planets if it place in these 4 moska houses. Will give you that part of life. Moon too. Because moon is mind. It’s your subconscious so the influence is constant.

Now. Not but some people awaken after their marriage now it’s in the Navamsha. Or after the death of something. Late in their life.

Or they come with any of moska dasha. Such the biggest planet that rules moska is ketu.

Moska or enlightenment take times for other. Sometimes in their old years. Or as early as a baby. And being taught by the principle of spirituality.

In any form.

There are many charts. In vedic. But again. It’s still funny how most. I never seen none of them have no planet in these houses

Even you.

I myself have ketu in 12th

But generally. You’ll see. Once people getting more older they will work toward this thing. The enlightenment. Even if they don’t have any of these planet. Why? Because the time of it is ruled by ketu. The old time. Which is associated with ketu. Ketu is the core. The foundation that you built over time. So after you achieves anything. This naturally come to you. As a small fraction of that spirituality.

[Imogen]

This is no coincidence.

If you look at after each dasha. Ketu is the last.

Now you see Venus. Yes it’s there because Venus is after you finish ketu. And back all over again to sun. And ketu again.

The ketu is the ending. But this is the cycle that never of course ending!

Because after you end this current life. Your mahadasha will keep going and going infinitely.

This is why no one is forgotten. Unless if you have unfavorable dasha. All throughout your entire life… Which is impossible.

[Fire]

What do you mean by either planet? like in having planets in them?

[Imogen]

The most important ones should be Jupiter or Saturn. Moon and ketu. And yes those placements are important. I’m sure you have it as well. Come on. You being around here for a reason.

[DR_MANHATTAN]

I think many people here have found themselves desperate enough to take a step back and try magik, subliminals etc.

Many people have found fields when they had incurable diseases, money issues, unhappy etc.

Many people also thought these were brainwave etc
Others start with hypnosis, law of attraction out of curiosity and end up down the rabbit hole over the months/ years that follow

[Replay]

I can’t remember a time I wasn’t interested. The whole UFO phenomenon, especially the denials that seemed purposely insincere, acted as a giant winking/blinking invitation to go off-road. My impression was that most other people also understood the message, but didn’t know how they were “supposed” to respond to it. The ridicule factor made people hesitate, even as it seemed to confirm the subject of the ridicule was on the right path. It’s sort of like the “tell” of gaslighting being the gaslighting—it’s not the particulars of what someone’s saying, but their insistent, closed way of saying it.

So my take is that people largely know and are frozen. But they also know that life “sort of” works if they “swim” in mainstream, but then something happens that makes Plan B worth taking up and then they call “that” friend to take things further—or they just use search engines. The social tax on Plan B is suddenly worth paying because Plan A has no answers for what they now face. As for myself, I never perceived a huge social cost to unconventional beliefs, but maybe that’s because I didn’t have a social position to lose.

Now I have a bit to lose, but I think things are rapidly changing. I think the internet has problems, but it’s a ready means of confirming the validity of the alternative perspectives and finding ways to make them useful.

[Drift]

Dream put a mermaid song effect in the fields

And a retroactive effect. You didn’t find the fields on your own, you told yourself from the future.

[Fire]

Of course I have them
in western astrology I have a sun-moon-neptune fire trine with neptune conjonction midheaven

[abro]

I have had an experience like this, I remember receiving a massive download on the nature of reality at around 3 or 4… and then spontaneously (and seemingly forgetfully) sending and giving this transmission to my young self just a few years ago

[Drift]

I was joking…but I think this is more active than people think. Retrocausality.

Also Dream said something about how the fields work. He didn’t mention time, but he said it was like making a cake…except we can taste it and have it since the first moment while also making it.

So I think it’s very possible listening to fields at whatever point you do, has to change the past so you find them “soon” enough. We now have revision series so who knows?

[anon8601412]

@Fire

Is it related to soul groups? is it changeable? inevitable? fatalistic?

In contemporary societies we all are subjects of science.

Which means that we exchanged God for Science and rationalism.

This leads most people to believe only in what it can be scientifically proven by mainstream media.

Although this is a very poor understanding on science and how the scientific process works. They just ignore it and place mainstream media as an authority on what to think or how to react to stuff, as long as it sounds “scientific”.

If you are well versed in science you will know that we don’t know shit about anything and we are building castles of sand near the sea.

And 100% of the scientific process consists on trying to refute by all means your hypothesis, rather than trying to validate it, as most people do…

[JAAJ]

@Muse

This is interesting. Why would this bored Souls thing be occurring? What is the purpose of this? For them to then be creative? Why not incarnate somewhere else then?

For the same reasons people are bored on physical earth:

• complacency
• stuck in comfort zone
• not being creative and inventive enough about their own life
• laziness
• not being aware of other options
• not being aware of having the choice in the first place
• sometimes maybe even as per choice and plan from the Higher Self
• etc.

[JAAJ]

I have 6 planets in total in the 4th, 8th and 9th house.
None in the 12th house.
Moon, Saturn and Jupiter are not among those 6.

PS: This is per my Placidus natal chart. I am not familiar with Vedic astrology.

[Bultar]

is there any reason to look up charts if I don’t know the time of my birth. I read house placements change every 4 minutes?

[Imogen]

The planetary can be judged yes. But the time is important to determine your lagna/ascendant sign.

And when you can’t provide the accurate time. This can become hard to predict. Still can be done. Only using the planetary position though. But of course. You want to know what your marriage life would be. How many kids you have. And so forth. And what and how much money you will earn. This can be seen if you using the accurate timing of birth.

This is why. Most moms in India or. Asia in general. always so obsessed when they birth a baby and instantly written down the timing.

It’s a different story in Western side. Not say they don’t write the time they do. But sometimes the delay for 1-2 minute can impact how your navamsha chart looks like.

[Imogen]

@Bultar

4 minutes

2 minutes. For navamsha.

[AlchemicalSTONE]

@Nice2knowU

Smartphones are very crazy if we’re in the 1950s. ( In the TV show Dark, a phone gets sent back to the 1950s and everyone there is scared of it and thinks it’s black magic…go figure)

I notice many people cant think for themselves to at least test stuff and see for themselves but need approval and validation of wider community before even trying it

[AlchemicalSTONE]

Sadly most people just accept limitations of their astrological chart as fate but with right magick each of the planets have to be expressed through all the four Elements, which will lead to an upgraded internal software basically and not be hindered by limitations of planets as much.

[Imogen]

Planets are the agents of God. They’re here to let you learn what you need to do. To outgrow yourself. Of course you are infinite. This is why I always remind people. To never ask directly with the planet or trying to do remedies. To lessen it’s lesson. Why? These planets are aware of what you trying to do. You trying to block the energy? They will put you 10 times more blockades.

They’re here to do what they supposed to do. A mail guy only deliver a mail. And that’s what the mail guy does.

So what you can do?

Do the remedy. But focus on your higher self.

It’s the best remedies of all remedies.

Just simply ask directly to the source. Your higher self. And live yourself and accept the situations. And outgrow it.

And this is why.

Each of Dasha can tell us.

That are we in favorable period time? Or not.

If yes. What we can do? Just enjoy it

If not? Accept it as a lesson. You have to. Otherwise the lesson keep appearing over and over again. Until you finally learn to accept it.

[AlchemicalSTONE]

@JAAJ

But I guess this is also a skill that needs to be learned.
Learning to you use your own creativity in order to decide what you want to do with your life and experience next.

Mind can never know what will eventually make it happy ,the best you can do is not to make choices from the mind but develop intuition to be able to follow in the steps of the blueprint meant for you which we are born with ,follow where it leads you so actions and places you’re in feel deeply right , otherwise theres billions of things to do and mind wont find deep satisfaction picking things at random