What do you think of Free will and destiny ? As per you, are humans lead life through free will or run by destiny or God or any other ideology you have ? If you think its free will - then what is the role of destiny ? If you think destiny then what does free will mean to you ? :) Quite interested to know your views , thanks a lot
My opinion:
Itās all about beliefs unfortunately, there is no rule and one defined truthā¦ because itās all about your consciousness and in whatever you believe it will prophet itselfā¦ whatever it is
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I recommend study of Kashmir Shaivism. Some things we are programmed to do because of, āsamskaras,ā which are impressions and predisposed attitudes and habitual actions left upon us from previous birth cycles. It may be difficult to discern between samskaras and societal conditioning, or rather, the degree of societal condition that an āindividualā person may have. Splendor of Recognition is an excellent book discusses this more in depth.
Kashmir Shaivism is one of the most revered Indian Philosophies because of its universal applicability and demonstrable results.
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I believe we have a destiny agreed upon by our higher self, though it might seem totally bonkers to us at present. We can work to change it if our will is developed to a certain level, otherwise we are at the mercy of the planets or horoscope as they call it
Its Interesting to hear about different perspectives and learn from it.
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From your personal experiences, have you used the OM mantra? and if so how powerful or life changing has it been for you? How do you define it from your perspective? @El_Capitan_Nemo
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I have come to understand the following:
Destiny is the co-creation of the infinite expansion of the Supreme Creator. By expansion I mean experiences, either they be positive, neutral, or negative.
Free Will is the flexibility for the consciousness to make choices of which are options from itās pre-chosen theme for the current life path.
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Maybe everyone used ādestined free willā to reply for this 
, thanks everyone for interesting thoughts.
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In continuation of Free will Vs. destiny earlier question, I would love to hear your expert views on āLaw of Karmaā or anything like that ? Lets say, If we believe in Law of Karma, please explain how it works and If at all can we avoid such karma & How ? Its link with free will and destiny again ? Thanks for your time and knowledge.
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From my own personal experiences, I have come to believe that the Law of Karma exists weather you believe in it or not. I also believe it would only apply in the densities where cause and effect exist. Where there is movement of consciousness causing action. To really avoid Karma, youād basically need to be in a state of non-action 24/7 and in a state of just BEING EXISTENCE no thoughts, no movements, no cause, no effectā¦ hence no karma. This I think would be pretty impossible to maintain in our densities until we merge with the Supreme Creator.
Having said all that, I donāt think Karma is a bad or good thing in essence but rather itās just the mechanics of the environment we are in. So once one understands it and takes full responsibility of their actions, thats when you can utilize this law to work in a way you prefer to experience your existence.
Free Will and Karma work hand in hand itās like they are playing catch. Free will makes a choice, throws the ball to Karma, Karma takes note of itās frequency and sends it right back to Free Will.
Destiny is like the playing field where free will and karma are playing.
Im no expert, these are just the ideas I resonate with the most and find peace of mind accepting.
Would love to hear everyone elseās own thoughts.
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As one gets older, the probability of developing diseases increases, the quality of life and health decrease. In the last few years of old age daily life could become a struggle.
Just because one wants to live longer, it does not necessarily mean they are afraid of death.
Some may want to live to be able to travel to distant worlds or witness the progression of technology. Some may want to live longer to spend more time with their family.
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Iām not refuting anything you say, just continuing the conversation.
It is still an experience and it can beome a lesson if you are willing to take it. Pains never last and itās okay to feel it sometime. Some pains are usefull. In the case of old age, I see it as a transitional separation. Like going beyong the range of the radio signal (think of the space movies). Everythings that was, still isā¦ in the past. You are evolving, youāll move on to something else (maybe to nothingness) and leave your seat to a younger generation to experience what you did.
I sort of get the āwitnessā part, although is technological change really going to change something about you ? You have probably witness much already and their will always be more. At wich point will you have seen enough progress ?
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But some are afraid and willing to do anything to escape it. Most decision in their life are based on their fear of death. Some people are afraid of looking old. I totally understand why nobody wants to die sooner than necessary of a painfull disease , Iām not suicidal.
I have worked in the medical fields and seen desperate people and families spent time and ressources to extend the life of people beyond 80-90 years old that canāt even breath on their own. Whatās the point to live and ruin your family, if you canāt even stand up or follow through a short tv episode. They had a beautifull life, many childrens, loveā¦ Itās okay to die at some point.
They probably had a lot of time with their families, birthday, travels etcā¦ Is a few more years going to change anything ?
It often happens that those elders donāt even remember their caretaker and how they are related.
Another way and itās a little different, do you think one day people will get enough ? Not too much, just enough. There is a pattern of always wanting more food, more money, more time, more speed, more everything. What do you think of dying in peace without trying to fight or extend life ?
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Fair enough, but you can now travel around the earth on a flying machine while drinking coca cola. It was unthinkable at the time, but now mundane even a chore for most. Do you think it will be any different ? If you learned to enjoy what you already have and see the magic in what you do, wouldānt you get the same benefits ?
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Interesting discussion, I really appreciate both of your perspectives! 
It is still an experience and it can beome a lesson if you are willing to take it. Pains never last and itās okay to feel it sometime. Some pains are usefull. In the case of old age, I see it as a transitional separation. Like going beyong the range of the radio signal (think of the space movies). Everythings that was, still isā¦ in the past. You are evolving, youāll move on to something else (maybe to nothingness) and leave your seat to a younger generation to experience what you did.
I can really appreciate this perspective and agree, there can be many lessons and wisdom in the experiences and transitions of growing older, and perhaps itās unique to each individual but can be oneās way to be at peace with moving on to whatever comes next.
I have worked in the medical fields and seen desperate people and families spent time and ressources to extend the life of people beyond 80-90 years old that canāt even breath on their own. Whatās the point to live and ruin your family, if you canāt even stand up or follow through a short tv episode. They had a beautifull life, many childrens, loveā¦ Itās okay to die at some point.
Another way and itās a little different, do you think one day people will get enough ? Not too much, just enough. There is a pattern of always wanting more food, more money, more time, more speed, more everything. What do you think of dying in peace without trying to fight or extend life ?
It is a complex thing, the way this has changed in the last centuries, and the confluence of so many things involved.
For many people imagining simply going on in a state of suffering like that seems undesirable, and life extension wouldnāt be desirable to most people if it isnāt also giving a person more years to experience in good health, if it is just a few more years of frailty and ill health. Perhaps for many people it is also natural once they reach a certain point in their old age and decline to be at peace with passing on.
However, I think it may also be quite difficult for the loved ones to lose someone even though they have lived a beautiful life and are able to go peacefully, so itās quite complex. Perhaps it is natural to feel grief in these circumstances, to not want to lose a loved one, whether or not people choose to let their loved ones go naturally after a good life.
What do you think about living life if a person can become as healthy as they were in their 20s, though? For example if a person lives past 80-90 but with the mind and body of a youthful person, to continue growing and contributing to the world?
Would you choose to live for a longer time if you knew your health in those years could be as it was in your 20s?
What if some of those desperate people and families were able to bring their elderly relatives back to that state of health, perhaps even where there is a zest for life once more, instead of only prolonging the inevitable for a few years?
Many of the life extension fields are aimed towards rejuvenation, ideally to a state of health at peak vitality and enjoyment of life, rather than prolonging an inevitable state of suffering for just a few more years.
As we age, we gradually become more susceptible to many things which can impact our ability to function in the moment. So perhaps it is not so different in essence from anyone ailing wanting to become healthy, find a permanent cure to oneās heart problems, diabetes, etc. if there is hope to return to true health.
I think it is often natural to hope for true cures to ailments and suffering, to want to give our best selves to all we do in life while we are alive. Some people may wish to contribute more to the world as well. So it can be not so much about a person wanting more for themselves but how we are all interconnected and affect the world around us. 
People are also generally happier and do more good from a place of health and peace than when they are struggling with the ailments of old age and illness, and they can start to want less of this āwanting moreā phenomenon when they donāt feel so much lacking and suffering. My personal opinion is that it seems like it is always good to ease suffering and improve things where we can, and this can be one way to do so.
Of course, growing and āwanting moreā less involves more wisdom than just rejuvenating oneās health may provide, but itās all interconnected and lasting wisdom can be much easier to find from a state of health and functioning. Imagine trying to gain clarity and wisdom while oneās aura is full of junk accumulating, and this is similar to the way that the physical ājunkā accumulated in years of declining health can impact a person, because our bodies and spirits are intertwined.
So wanting to maintain a state of health can even be about enlightenment and wisdom, taking care of oneās body the way one takes care of oneās mind and spirit, cleaning and improving it the way we might clean ourselves through practising mindfulness.
I think that from another perspective, extending oneās healthy time alive can give a person more time to bring any of the good things they might bring to the world, so it may not be about wanting more to fulfil a feeling of personally lacking something.
Imagine what Dreamweaver could do if he were alive for another 200 years, and the amount of change he could create, for example!
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Nice answer.
That dude must be way over 200 years old 
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Dream is most probably an eighteen - ninety year old dude.
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Iām counting past lifes too, he said one time he fought alongside Attila the Hun with a smiley. Might have been a joke but at this point, Iāll take it to the bank.
PS: thatās also one of the reason I think getting old and dying is cool. If you get many lives, letās move on to the next movie.
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I personally believe this as well. Predeterminism is attributed to conditioning. Due to our habitual patterns and societal conditioning, weāre all programmed to behave in certain ways so we automatically react to life in the same way over and over again. So I donāt believe most of humanity has free will because most people are just aimlessly following their conditioning. Itās not their fault eitherā¦ Itās just the way our minds work. That being saidā¦
That is partly what the spiritual journey leads to. Free will. To have free will, we must remove our conditioning because it causes our minds to have a very limited range of choices. We always end up choosing what aligns with our current beliefs. To have free will is to be open minded enough to choose anythingā¦ and then make a choice.
Partly why a lot of spiritual practices make such a big point on detaching from the ego is because ego is a result of conditioning. Ego is a thought pattern that becomes the āself,ā but in essence, isnāt the self. In detaching from the ego, one can become the self that is now. The self that is always observing reality as it is at this moment, does not judge and does not have any preference. It just is. This is the self that is of free will. The self that chooses the reality it wants to move towards from the infinite possibilities that spur from every moment. That is freedom.
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Hi sammy!
At this point in your develoment, whatās your take on death, old age and life extension ?
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I guess that is the one run by Leo Gura. Great content. There was a time I used Superhuman Genius twice before watching some of his videos haha.
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It wouldnāt get flagged
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I personally look forward to death. To unbecome this body and be a part of the all again. Ego death sort of gives you a glimpse of what death feels like and if you let go, it is truly a beautiful thing. Body death though is like shedding of the flesh. It is transformation.
These are just my ideas on it though. Iām not dead yet so how would I know 
I still have a lot of growing to do and I think in essence, thatās what lifeās about. Expansion. So as long as I live, Iāll want to see humanity progress. Life extension is one of the major steps of human progress so Iām a big proponent of it.
And while I believe Science is in the process of extending life through physical means, I think itās something that can be done energetically. You can do this manually through certain energetic exercises and we have fields that help reverse the deterioration of the aging body.
We plan to make a post on how you can do this with the many audios we have available. For example, just raising your jing energy on a daily basis revitalizes the cells in a way that should extend the life span by many years (taoists do this).
I donāt know if this all answers your question but if it didnāt, let me know
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