Suicide among teens, young adults and the general populace

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#22

I have a little obsession with this thing, in which order do I answer, how do I answer, etc., so right now I’ll answer in the order that you replied:

That’s a powerful screenshot…
“If I am powerful enough to kill myself, I must also be powerful enough to live.”

I personally think that depression can be caused by many things, yet I agree that the driving force is LACKING something or someone and focusing on the pain of not having these expectations or NEEDS met…

That would be BEAUTIFUL, it would be Great if Captain will create/add many such fields, for powerful mental/emotional support, also coming from each others’ love and goodwill…
I think, for now, the best such thing, besides Self Love and mental support fields is that field with our own personal Psychologist or something - I forgot it’s name.

Yes, love or rather our crazy attachments which we call love - or rather, the rejection of our love and our inability to adapt to such a situation/loss, one of the main if not the main cause of suicides…

Good point(s).

Edit: I would ADD This: (sometimes, especially in such times) One Needs STRONG MOTIVATION And REASONS TO KEEP ON GOING…
Mines were MY MOM (not wanting to make her suffer) And the Fact that I HATE TO LOSE, I HATE BEING A LOSER, SO I WILL FIGHT UNTIL I BECOME A WINNER, IN ALL AREAS!
These Were MY Motivations (SORRY FOR CAPS).

Also, when one understands that most probably he/she will continue to exist, beyond such grim decision, and will perhaps suffer even more, well, that might also help one to choose LIFE…

SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS STARTING IN/WITH THIS LIFE, IN/WITH THIS VERY MOMENT!

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#24

I’ve always wondered, you know, what it’s like not to have any awareness or a point of attention. I cant really imagine what it’s like to experience nothing at all or the void, as some would say. How do you measure what the void or emptiness is if it simply means it doesn’t exist? It’s not like closing your eyes completely shut and seeing darkness like when the lights are out or the idea of the void being this plain white empty space around us, as most humans would typically imagine it to be based on their perception of reality and understanding. What I am trying to say is, even if you do, you’re still consciously experiencing some kind of reality.

Where is consciousness when you can’t see, hear, feel, smell, taste or think anymore? It can either sound like a horror story or a blissful and peaceful one, but that all depends on the person. Although if it was to disappear forever, what was the point of it even appearing to begin with? Maybe death is just another experience or reality waiting for us all.

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#25

existence is a negation of inexistence not the other way around.

we negate inexistence, and cling to existence, that’s why we have all this stuff going on. everything is a excess, an extra that came to be through our desperate desire to exist and for others to exist too.

by embracing inexistence, we become more peaceful and aligned with the world.

but suicide as a result from depression is also an “excess” or extra, of trying to cling to all sorts of existences.

depression is caused by desiring stuff that “you” “know you won’t be able to achieve”, too much of desiring stuff out of your reach leads you to that position.

if you desire and you can move towards your desires that is not depression.

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#26

Because you can and you should help souls who have sunk that low…
I went through such a phase, where I contemplated suicide and nothing made me want to live more than the thought of my mom suffering hell because of my lack of strength…
All The other thoughts - “what would people think or say” etc., it was ALL Extra, but the terrible image of my mom being desperate beyond measure, that terryfying Realization Made Me Stop…
It was a dark dark time of my life, but then it became better, Life has its ups and downs (and it can only go bad until a certain point, then it goes up), but It IS a Journey, You cant See The Good Or Reach The Destination By Exiting the Journey, nor can Anyone Reach THE PEAK of Their Own Being (or The Manifestation of that Peak) by Jumping Off The Mountain, My Friend, BUT BY CLIMBING, BY CONTINUING TO GO FURTHER, THATS HOW YOU REACH THE PEAK OF YOUR BEING/EVOLUTION, NOT By Quitting…

I think that We (humans) are like Small Pieces in a Higher Existence/Structure, I don’t think you can escape by suicide, You just move to another place or state of being, and I think that the suffering left behind is The Best Reason not to do it, If you love those dear to you…

But, those who contemplate such thoughts do it out of suffering, the Solution Being to Raise Your Own Condition, to Become Joyful (Again), To Know, Understand and Love Yourself, Unconditionally And To Know, Understand and Love LIFE Unconditionally, These are THE Goals…

LOVE Yourself, My Friend, You Deserve It (And Everyone Reading This, I LOVE YOU, YOU ARE WORTH IT)! :pray::heart:

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#27

I don’t think so either…

There are many complex layers to things. Although I think people have a right to commit suicide if they are in a state of sobriety and genuinely wish to do so… it is usually the case that distress is what prompts suicide.

That in itself tends to create an energetic atmosphere which, at least by Buddhist standards, would give someone a strong direction towards rebirth in even less favorable circumstances since that would have been saturated in that atmosphere at the time of death.

Abrahamic denominations tend to see it as a sin that would put someone straight in hell.

And, of the Hindu denominations I have heard from, it apparently shatters a person’s body-mind. So, if that is correct, a person wouldn’t even move on immediately at death. They would be in a shattered in-between state because they had forcefully disrupted the cycles that were sustaining their existence as well as their karmic repayments. And so there is the massive karmic debt of taking one’s own life as well as breaking contracts from beyond this life for events that hadn’t come to completion.

So anyways, I tend to be libertarian. A person owns their life and if they rationally and un-emotively can say that death is better, then I say that they have a right to commit suicide. But that never seems to be the situation.

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#28

Only a prisoner, someone who is tortured or someone who will undoubtly be killed or die immediately in a horrible way, these type of situations are the only exceptions in my mind…

But everyone who has such dark thoughts is a prisoner of their own suffering (above all else/other circumstances)…

The Only True and Good Solution (in The Absolutely Vast Majority of Cases) is to Fight on, to Love Oneself And Life/Others, to move on and to Improve ones own Condition and Life.

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#29

One of my favorite thinkers is Percy Bridgman… his state generally wouldn’t apply to teenagers. But he was a suicide at an advanced age because of cancer he had been suffering with and he didn’t want to live through the final phases of it.

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#30

I’m not a teen but I would probably class myself as a young adult and I’ve had many thoughts of wanting to die, but it was more of wanting to escape my own problems or adversities in life. I would only consider suicide if it meant I had no options left or there was no other way to escape the suffering I was in. I don’t think I would commit suicide if I had depression though, because I usually tend to self-medication and indulgent activities that mask the pain or help me escape reality if anything.

For me to take my own life, I would have to either be severely handicapped, going through some kind of gruelling daily abuse or horrendous physical pain, whether from some health condition or some deadly disease like late stage bone cancer, for instance. I remember the stories told by my family of when my aunty was on her death bed (I was a baby at the time) suffering from cancer throughout her spine and when the morphine wasn’t effective enough. They could have assisted suicide for people like her, but no, the system allowed her to die screaming instead because of all these stupid oaths that medical practitioners and doctors swear by.

We should never encourage suicide on anyone but shouldn’t we respect their choice if they really just want to die? You can usually tell the difference between a ‘cry for help’ and someone who actually wants to die. Some people just cant endure the pain they’re going through no more.

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