Suicide among teens, young adults and the general populace

General Discussion
#1

When I hear that a young guy or girl (usually a teen or young adult) just takes his/her life because his/her girlfriend/boyfriend left him/her (it’s mostly guys taking their life), man, idk, I find it disturbing…

Why is it happening?
How can it be prevented?

Disclaimer: this is Not about me, I don’t feel suicidal; it’s just a discussion that I wanted to start, given how prevalent suicide is today.

#suicideculture :cry:

Is this thread worth it?
Is it even helpful?
Idk…
Sometimes, I just create threads because of a spontaneous thought or observation.

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#2

The pain gets too big and nothing else truly matters.

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#3

Is there any external help or anything which could help them or if they reached that point, it’s almost if not too late…?

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#4

yeah, I’m sure if they got real professional help most should be okay.

but i think, I mean I personally wouldn’t choose that option if it were to happen, that’d be my bad though.

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#5

I only felt suicidal twice in my life and it was both times because of health problems, including depression, so for me, I can not understand how can someone take his/her life if his/her partner left him/her, although it’s probably a multitude of causes - like the fact that they were Not prepared for such an event and, maybe, in a really dark moment, they chose the worst option…

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#6

Unpopular opinion: the ones who endlessly talk about killing themselves are not the ones who end up doing it. Some of them, yes, but the ones you really need to worry about are the silent ones. They put their houses in order and then… gone. They just do it.

This is based on my experiences with the young adults in my life. As long as they talk about it you have time to interfere. Once they go silent - act because they’re about to act as well.

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#7

Unfortunately, I think so too, there were some emo kids I knew when I was a kid too, I found them weird (back then), talking about death and suicide, and as far as I know they did not do it…

#8

Yes. It can be a way to get attention and it is always a cry for help but still the silent ones are the ones in real danger. A young relative of mine kept us on our toes for two whole years, always talking about suicide, and never once came even close to doing it. It was just a way to say, I feel awful and can’t handle my life.

Still my rule of thumb is to keep an eye on everyone who entertains the idea. It’s a red flag for sure.

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#9

Absolutely.

Really uncertain times we live in…

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#10

Aaand I just realised I didn’t really answer any of your questions. Sorry. It is such a heavy and far-reaching topic with no easy answers. Best guess? It’s the times we’re living in. So much uncertainty, media spreading doom and gloom, the pandemic, all the wars and rumours of wars, job markets, inflation… it’s not an easy gig to be a young adult today! Future is always uncertain but the generations alive right now have a very, very uncertain future.

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#11

Perhaps a few solutions would be to:

  1. Raise Awareness - it’s better to know that it happens and that it can happen to (one)self or family members, friends, etc.
  2. Prevent it (as long/much as it possible) - here, it is both the responsability of the parents, tutors, teachers, psychologists, medics, religious leaders, society, But Also one should understand that suicide is a possibility, a Dark one, but especially if an individual sees the early signs, he/she can prevent it, especially early…
  3. Become More SPIRITUAL - including finding “alternative” ways like Sapien Medicine or subliminals or other helpful things; also, sometimes being religious or just believing in a Higher Power/Truth/God can be beneficial
  4. Change LIFESTYLE, BECOME WISER, HEALTHIER, STRONGER (including or especially on a mental level) - thus Vastly MINIMISE The Chance of Suicide

Very easy, unfortunately…

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#13

All those are good and I’d add stronger and more varied human connections. What I mean by that is, we have drifted away from strong family units (Western problem but spreading) and many young people don’t have several generations in their lives. If you only ever spend time with people around your own age you might not get that wider perspective that comes with being able to ponder about life with younger and older loved ones and people from many different walks of life. You are in danger of being endlessly distracted by your own limited perspective, your grief, your next step. Didn’t happen so easily when families were bigger and neighbours closer and more involved.

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#14

One of the best things that happened to me was that I had uncles and other relatives, neighbors, including few who sometimes took care of me, when my parents could not and of course children, my friends - these things changed my perspective, created deeper bonds and helped me value people, life, family and myself more. I still remember some of their stories, what they went through…

My brother is older and we were kind of close, but never that close, because of age gap, he was/is very busy.

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#15

Exactly! Good luck telling someone in their 90’s that you’re about to end it all because your first crush didn’t like you back or someone dumped you. Makes me happy to hear that you had a village around you!

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#16

Yep, I had them…
Old people are gone, including family members, then arrived the health issues… And I isolated myself waay too much.

Anyway, it was/is a GOOD FOUNDATION (mostly good, anyway) (although there were minuses in my family, but I won’t get into these)…

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#17

I tried to kill myself, twice. But ended up not doing it.

5 seconds before I try to do it, I chickened out. I realize that I don’t want to end it yet, I don’t want to die yet but instead, I just want to escape some shit I’ve been on. Most suicides are like that, they felt absolutely trapped on something and they think death is the only escape.

There is also this reason, I have the screenshot of this legendary comment that explain suicides in general

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#18

I don’t think nihilism causes depression.

One is depressed generally when there are so many ideals that were given up and the person feels extremely powerless and sees all those ideals so far away and impossible to attain that they fall into depression.

If you don’t eager for anything (like in nihilism) you actually don’t have any problem and you feel “complete”.

So, you get depressed when everything you value and want it’s so far away from your reality that you feel it is impossible to reach it.

Modern society injects tons of impossible ideals to the population through advertising, marketing, etc. Everywhere you go you are bombarded with “how things should be”, how cool is to be famous, have tons of money, what “good looking people” look like, and all that shit they’re trying to constantly put on people’s heads.

This eventually leads to a depressed society. Because everything that is so cool and so important it is so far away from their realities that they start to feel it.

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#19

I wish this could be added to a noded field like plasma flower that could send out 24/7 energies to counteract this. Unconditional love focused by us would enhance Indra’s Net so that it reaches out to each one in pain.

Also creating Blessed Path items and leaving them everywhere plus adding it as a focus in the mass meditations

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#20

Its love lol
Breakups/heartbreak “blocks” heart chakra.
Its almost as loosing a family member or a close person.
“Blocked” heart chakra then usually means depression or whatever.

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#21

Yeah, that’s a good point. Love in 3D is mostly a human construct. If anyone has ever had good results in love, anyone else can. A change of energy can also assist in the unblocking of the heart chakra and a new (conceptual) realization of what love really is.

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