I know it might be a bit tacky to talk about for some but I must ask, what you guys think about the side of the youtube spiritual community that talk about the “matrix” things like the shadow government agendas and stuff about new earth and rainbow children etc…
I was wondering if anyone had anyone had any insight about the future for everyone?
Someone’s going to be in for a surprise when they dig deeper into the forum…
ok Ive seen the dec 21 post :)
the youtube spiritual community was my introduction to more information that assisted my conscious awareness.
i got bored of watching the spiritual influencers as i felt that i couldn’t contribute into a sense of community like here on this forum.
they definitely had some great ideas to explore and i’ve met a few of them in person.
they’re quite loving people and they know how to market.
in a manipulative way?
All marketing is manipulative.
depends on one’s perspective. duality and non-duality. i felt that they were honest about their prices and never pushed the issue if i changed my mind about their service.
the influencers i’ve met were one of the most giving (generous) people i’ve met in this spiritual community as a whole.
i’ve been in the financial sector for 6 years as my previous career. i also dabble in marketing and entrepreneurship and they are nothing like some of those in these fields that can be self-centred.
one of my degrees are in marketing and it may seem this way, but when we learned about it, us marketing students always had the customers and clients best interests in mind.
it wasn’t a practice of manipulation, it was a practice of understanding who we didn’t understand.
your perspective is fair though, i just wanted to share my experiences.
I mean…what?!
Someone needs to lose weight lol
In order for you to more effectively convince that person he needed something he did not realize he needed until he saw your advertisement. 
I do not know that I have ever seen an ad that aimed to inform without clearly trying to drive the customer towards a conclusion and an action. Even the recent (last 5 years or so?) trend of ads where companies just present wholesome messages or talk about disaster relief or something like that are clearly geared towards appealing to certain segments of the market who will make purchasing decisions under the illusion that those companies are their friends, part of their community, “the good guys”, etc.
One could even argue whether there is a way to produce an ad that is not manipulative, just as one might argue if it is possible to present unbiased news (though there are clearly ways of presenting less biased news). What is and is not said, how it is said, when it is said, what tropes are played to or subverted, and all of the subtle cues… all is aimed not merely to present information but get the consumer to a conclusion and an action. And all have been intensely studied to know just how to get the desired reaction.
One could go even further and say that all communication, even the communication you and I are having right now is manipulative, as we are both seeking to make points, not only with facts, but through conscious and unconscious rhetorical devices, and the use of things like emojis.
Quoting this again, because it reminds me of the analogous idea people have of using “dialogue” to solve problems. Politicians, activists, professors, etc talk about the need for “dialogue”, but you can see clearly that it is just another tool in the tool box for getting what they want.
We’re all here wrestling on this Earth. I am not really trying to demonize manipulation (though the extent of research marketing companies, news organizations, and governments have at their disposal does make it feel more insidious), I just like to be honest about this battlefield.
Of course, stark honesty is itself a tactic, as you probably know.
I think that OgaMike was referring to this concept (I don’t adhere to, nor have much idea about all that, so others will inform you better. Schematically, the chronological appearance of these children are claimed to be in this order: Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow and Diamond?):
yes, there are marketers and companies who go for this practice.
yes, you are also right on this. i personally don’t watch any commercials and will do my best to not support a site that pretty much forces me to take my adblocks off.
i like to see it as how news is portrayed in other countries. everyone’s take is different. i also like to see it as food. everyone will have a different perspective on the same dish. a marketer can only do their best to present their own way of reaching others in their most integral way (or not).
yes, i agree with you on this. even my ‘nice’ side has an ‘influential’ type of energy to it. i can only do my best with my part of the interaction to be open to your ideas and display mine with no expectations of how you will perceive them.
yes i agree with this.
yes ‘honesty is the best policy’ as many mentions. competition is great for growth and innovation. there can also be a yin-yang/balance with competition and co-operation.
the beauty of duality is that it works well when both sides complement each other.
i’d also like to add the emotional aspect of marketing. it is up to the marketer which emotions they want to ‘bolster’ with their campaigns. i have been recently interested in hawkin’s consciousness chart and it is quite helpful for me when i was to figure out if an ad is trying to bring me to different states.
The way I see it is everyone creates some kind of framework for how their reality is “governed”.
Some people take a more fearful approach, some a more purest loving approach, others a mix of the two, etc.
I dont see a whole lot to be gained from saying one way of thinking is “right” or “wrong”, but it can be interesting to look at how different opinions and perspectives overlap in theme and other concepts.
Personally I think there is definitely a large authority that is above most countries on Earth that operates in the shadows. I dont get to specific with details because it is a rabbit hole that isnt fun to go down, but I just personally believe its a little silly to assume that there isnt another tier of mega wealthy god-like elite that pull the strings of society because they have been in power since who knows how long.
It’s a rabbit hole that keeps going, I only poke my head in every once in a whole to feel like I have some idea of what might be going on
Yes.
Your future is in Your hands 100% of time.
It always was and always will be up to You how Your life look like.
Dont let Yourself be bamboozled into thinking otherwise ^^
Its a term I’ve heard b4 being used to refer to the spiritual children that are already doing “supernatural” things or have spiritual mindset
yes, I think its clear for those with the eyes to hear and the ears to see