The 'yeh alright' scenario

[Captain_Nemo]

I think, i mean yeh its definately wrong,
But i dont really care too much.

Look at it in this light, he is just doing brilliant marketing for me,
while driven but whatever crazy woke ideals or whatever it may be.
who cares?
They dont work if you arent an owner.
He is asking people to smell a perfume card before buying the bottle.
But its a great way to filter.
People who really understand and see instant logic… if i can do this, why cant i just do the opposite or whatever way which ways it goes.
Its my design.
then they will understand there is a vast difference when you own the actual nft.
In this way the crowd is now filtered.
Those who stick to smelling the perfume sticks will never buy the bottle.
So why care really? let him be driven by his grand delusion and market the actual quality into the places i hope it can be.

Cheers

[Beast]

I still dont understand how people think you can make all this magic work

but not be able to create black market protection lol

[heidegger]

@Captain_Nemo

Those who stick to smelling the perfume sticks will never buy the bottle.

personally, i think that many people want to pay because they feel grateful for your work.

i’ve been subscribing to patreon on and off for almost 4 years, and bought the old chakra series because i am able to do it.

but considering that minimum wage in some 3rd world countries like mine is $200 (80.000 argentinian pesos) and taxes for buying stuff from other countries is doubled ($400), it means i have to pay 3 minimum wages for an nft ($275 x 2 = $550) or 2 minimum wages for one of the most expensive SM fields. which means i’d have to save money for a year just to access one field, or not eat, live, pay rent and basic services for 2 months.

i’m not saying that this justifies piracy or shitting on a creator

i’m just saying that it’s not like all people that don’t buy expensive fields and nfts is because they have the money and don’t want to spend it to take advantage from the creators.

meanwhile in other first world countries, minimum wage is 2k and people don’t get to pay extra taxes for buying an audio online, which means that they only pay 1/10 of what they earn. which makes things way more accessible for them.

[kimchisauerkraut]

It’s impractical to expect a field maker to solve the plight of 3rd world country. After all, it’s the responsibility of every man to improve his own country, but not expecting outside intervention. Dream is not a multinational militant and I don’t think he’s interested in ruling the world. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

I feel the pain of not being a 1st world national, and I know what you described is true. I think general accessibility of internet access and many free tier fields on youtube, again being free because youtube hosting videos is subsided by the parent company Alphabet, made people around the world who has some English proficiency know the magic of fields.

It’s the envy and jealousy that drove people nuts. But most people place the blame on the wrong person. It’s not Dream’s fault that many in the world can’t afford to buy paid fields. It’s the malfunctioning 3rd world country governments. Or if we want to be more responsible, everyone’s own fault since we can’t fix our own bad governance.

Everything is more accessible in the 1st world, from daily necessities to luxuries across the board. This is an obvious fact. But why don’t people freak out over the overpriced smartphones in 3rd world but paid fields that have the same price across the globe? Dream’s paid fields are actually more equal than many goods and services you buy in your home country.

I’ll stop the rant lest I get more hate…

[heidegger]

@kimchisauerkraut

It’s impractical to expect a field maker to solve the plight of 3rd world country. After all, it’s the responsibility of every man to improve his own country, but not expecting outside intervention.

I don’t think it is a matter of practicality and utility. But a matter of exhange-value.

If i do the same work you do, i get paid 20 times less the value of a field.

Would you be able to afford SM field if they were worth 4k each?

That’s why many streaming services or games lower their prices at countries in which the original value cannot be afforded by people.

I can pay HBO Max streaming service for 500 pesos, which equals to 1 dollar now (argentinian peso went from like 500 to a dollar in the last week).

Even big enterprises don’t place the responsibility on people from 3rd world countries for their economic situation.

They just try to make it work for the benefit of it all.

I don’t think it is reasonable to expect from an individual to change the whole economy and all the ideological and material substrate from which people think and relate to politics in his country.

[Azin]

@heidegger

but considering that minimum wage in some 3rd world countries like mine is $200 (80.000 argentinian pesos) and taxes for buying stuff from other countries is doubled ($400), it means i have to pay 3 minimum wages for an nft ($275 x 2 = $550) or 2 minimum wages for one of the most expensive SM fields. which means i’d have to save money for a year just to access one field, or not eat, live, pay rent and basic services for 2 months.

What you said makes sense from your perspective however, in my opinion if someone can’t afford something then they don’t have to. Simple. No one is being forced like paying unreasonable government tax or something. There are still expensive stuff in 3rd grade countries like iphone, gucci etc. And only those that can afford them would buy them. To me it seems like people like these who does stuff like this yeah right guy they belive they are entitled or should be given the fundamental right to get these things for free just cuz they can’t afford it or whatever. If the field is expensive it’s for those thst can afford. Very simple. If someone can’t afford it then it’s on him and he doesn’t have to bother with buying them. I mean people definitely go for expensive treatment every now and then even if they can’t afford it and somehow managed to save up for it. And yet these people believes fields should be lot cheaper or free. I mean if someone can’t buy an iphone thry don’t just go into the store or grab on do they? And yet they would treat the fields in this manner for what? Just cuz they are bunch of audios and can be accessed easily? Not saying it’s wrong that they can’t afford them but no one has the right to exploit them either since it’s not their property. And I’m sure people who thinks like that won’t be able to make even one single decent field even if they are given 10 lifetimes belive it or not and it takes unprecedented amount of talent, very long time and lots of effort to make these. In fact when I came across fields for the first time many years ago I wondered how can some fields be so cheap compared to the benefits they provide despite the fact that medicine is too expensive and they come with lots of side effects and requires very long term treatment and so on. And let’s not forget about the cheaper stuff that’s out there as well. Sure premium one’s are better and it has to be better considering the price which is exactly why they are premium. If it wasn’t better than free or cheaper one’s then it would have been daylight robbery. Too bad that there aren’t any laws to prevent these stuff which is exactly why such thing happnes. (And this wasn’t directed at you btw just my personal opinion)

[Dr_Manhattan]

@kimchisauerkraut
Welcome back

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Welcome @kimchisauerkraut

[Dr_Manhattan]

@heidegger

It’s crazy you come from Argentina and push that communist stuff (not in this thread).

Your country was the richest in the world per capita, it dropped to the top 10 and was good there. Then nationalized and subsidized everything (robbed international investors), no one bought its currency nor invested, it became a third world country, backtracked, investors came back it became rich again and it socialized again and crashed to its now pathetic state.

The classic socialist cycle. Your country went from rich to broke so many times. Thought people over there would be educated about it. Economics student from around the world study Argentina.

Anyway, I digress
But man, I was telling you communism fails mathematically 100% of the time and fast. You tell me it might work. Socialism crashed your own country multiple times.

[heidegger]

@Dr_Manhattan

It’s crazy you come from Argentina and push that communist stuff (not in this thread).

Your country was the richest in the world per capita, it dropped to the top 10. Nationalized and subsidized everything (robbed international investors), no one bought its currency nor invested, it became a third world country, backtracked, investors came back it became rich again and it socialized again and crashed to its now pathetic state.

The classic socialist cycle. Your country went from rich to broke so many times. Thought people over there would be educated about it.

Anyway, I digress

I’m not a communist. I do believe in regulation though, because capital tends to accumulate and create monopolies which then have the power to place the rules for the game. As it happens even in scientific researches and how they are manipulated by pharmaceutical industries and how it affects our views of psychology for example, as the DSM 5 was paid by pharma industries to push new drugs.

To me it is crazy that people push extreme capitalist policies which negate the acknowledgement of the unconscious on the name of free contract on a spiritual forum lol

Paradoxes.

[kimchisauerkraut]

@heidegger

Even big enterprises don’t place the responsibility

That’s because they are big enterprises. How big enterprises make profits across the globe is different from individual merchants who deal with global markets.

@heidegger

If i do the same work you do

I observed workers from different countries. From my personal observation, I can say a worker’s real productivity is different from country to country, even if they have the similar qualifications. Of course, I don’t know the conditions in Argentina, since I’ve never been there.

@heidegger

I don’t think it is reasonable to expect from an individual to change the whole economy and all the ideological and material substrate from which people think and relate to politics in his country.

Collectively people can. But of course it’s not everyone’s aspiration to foray into politics. I don’t either.

@heidegger

I don’t think it is a matter of practicality and utility. But a matter of exhange-value.

My view actually is based on value, both usage value and exchange value.

My friend, at least there is something you can do to improve your purchasing experience, right? Even the tax situation you mentioned in your post, that can be dodged away with a vpn. That requires no change of your job or residence. I am sure there must be a myriad of ways to buy in more stable currency in Argentina to hedge against depreciating pesos. At least that’s what I see in 3rd world Asia. People always have a way to dodge crappy gov intervention.

[heidegger]

@kimchisauerkraut

My friend, at least there is something you can do to improve your purchasing experience, right? Even the tax situation you mentioned in your post, that can be dodged away with a vpn.

Yeah, i should look into that, i am kinda dumb at these things lol

[kimchisauerkraut]

@heidegger

i am kinda dumb at these things lol

Use vpn. Perhaps you should also investigate ways to buy using non-Argentina cards. There is a chance that Argentina cards won’t be accepted if you use vpn.

[SorcerySupreme]

I think this is to do with people selling/trading fields for profit and promoting the idea that you get all the benefits from the traded fields (who else knows that total arse who posts on every YouTube video). I understand that some have more money than others, and there are plenty of free choices if you’re broke. I’m not saying no one is talking trash on third-worlders for using fields they didn’t pay for, but I’m certainly not doing so. The guy trading thousands of dollars worth of fields at a time (and charging cash, so he’s certainly not broke) isn’t using fields for the help they provide because he’s broke, though.

[Forumuser]

I dont know if Im imagining things, but I could feel the effects of certain NFTs if I looked at them without owining them focused.
Now I have “proof” that with Ascension-naut NFT effect feels kinda the same, but much strogner when I own it.
Also I feel it working for me all the time, without any action or visualization included.
So, Is it fair to say, that by looking at NFT you can tap in a “demo” of it?

[Captain_Nemo]

Well yes, isnt that understood? I thought this was clear.

[MG95]

Dreamweaver can you confirm that owning the nft will also bypass memory wipes …?

I bought shielding v3 and own it in my wallet but this force pulls a full memory wipe so if I try to remind myself I actually have it, it messes with my frontal lobes and it shows me images of my phantom wallet appearing empty.

Is the field aware its an external force messing and it will continue to work ?

100% serious question.

[SorcerySupreme]

Clear to a dozen of us. Maybe a couple of dozen.

[Forumuser]

sorry, I tend to second-guess myself. I thought its too good to be true

[Captain_Nemo]

Owning the nfts is the legal way i know you all think you can revise it away or convince yourself away. I have long stopped using subconscious guilt. But people assume they can deny my reality and overlay mental illusions to facts.

*shrug.