US Elections - Any Predictions?

Floyd · November 6, 2020, 9:56am

Look at the facts yourself:

4am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes 100% for Biden
4am dump/Michigan 138,499 votes 100% for Biden
AZ poll workers forcing voters to use sharpies thereby invalidated ballots
Trump leading in GA, NC, PA, WI, MI and they stop counting before the vote fairy visits overnight…
Not letting republican poll watchers in.
MSM cutting POTUS speeches

Do you need the MSM to tell you there is fraud? This shouldn’t be even about Trump, but the people and their right to vote.

How any rational person can’t see that this is completely rigged is beyond my comprehension.

Besides, it takes time to build a case you know? And if it comes to that, this could go on all the way to January 20.

Nope, it just shows for how long elections have been rigged and why they are so desperate this time.

He first called it back in 2012.
rigged election 2012

Then he called it back in June 2020.

He called it on the election day, as I pointed out before.
(7:30 - 8:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE4_3KQ2Hg

Attorney General William Barr called it too in September:
https://twitter.com/FogCityMidge/status/1324438683336929281

Heck, even Obama admited it.
https://files.catbox.moe/as1l1k.mp4

Do you really think they didn’t know what was coming?

anon20763027 · March 8, 2021, 7:59pm

Seems you tend to believe anything you find in internet lul…I will just debunk all your statement just with this one thing.
Richard John Santorum is an American politician, attorney, and political commentator. A member of the Republican Party, he served as a United States senator from Pennsylvania from 1995 to 2007 and was the Senate’s third-ranking Republican from 2001 to 2007

And yes he is a guy who is in rebublican party also someone who knows better than any of us about politics. And I don’t wanna argue about what happened in past cuz it has nothing to do with the present. I will just come back when it’s all over cuz I mentioned I have no intention for any nonsense argument. Period.

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 4:46am

This just in, CNN says Orange man bad.

Floyd · November 6, 2020, 4:47am

Did this guy just send me a CNN video to debunk all my claims? HAHAHAHAHA.

He didn’t even care to check what I said. Pure brainwashing.

Alright, that’s enough. I’m outta here.

#Trump2020!

anon20763027 · March 8, 2021, 7:59pm

Ya sure cry harder. We can see who is brainwashed. Do you even know the guy who is in thumbnail? If not then stop bothering. And this broadcast is in many other not only CNN lul…I will come back when it’s over as I promised. And not to mention that he even said the election is fraud if he loses even before it started. Rip logic. Same thing was said in 2016.

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 4:57am

The goal wasn’t to get anyone upset @GumayuSi, at least mine wasn’t. But, there is a bit of humor in the dialog between you two, because it’s the same dialog that’s been playing out for much of Trump’s presidency.

Specifically, I’m referring to the difference of opinion between “official narratives” as evidenced by your CNN video and “everyday people’s experiences”, as evidenced by @Floyd’s twitter posts.

It’s just funny that it’s the same argument over and over again, and it really comes down to who you trust - the “average man”, or the “experts” on TV. Since it’s all opinion, and we don’t yet have any court-verified proof either way, we should discuss openly but cordially.

anon20763027 · March 8, 2021, 7:59pm

I was talking to the other guy lul. The guy with trump pic. So don’t worry

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 4:54am

I know you were, but we’re discussing politics so there’s always room for discussions to get heated. Besides, it’s not just what’s posted, but also everyone who’s reading, and anything they may post.

Disagreeing is okay, but I don’t want this thread to turn into a flame war.

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 4:54am

Quiet you! Shoo!!!

Josh · November 6, 2020, 4:55am

I want this thread to turn into a flame war

anon20763027 · March 8, 2021, 7:59pm

Exactly. Say that to the other guy lul. He stated it. It’s kinda immature since we all should respect others opinion.

Josh · November 6, 2020, 4:57am

If your iq lower than 500 don’t talk to me

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 4:58am

How about Consciousness Levels on the Dr. Hawkins scale? What’s that gotta be, over 9000?!?

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 5:06am

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wuMing · November 6, 2020, 6:14am

Disagree. Evidence is not the same as opinion, and to reduce it to opinion is exactly what the purveyors of lies want.

People are welcome to draw different conclusions from the evidence, but to treat evidence as mere opinion is intellectually unsound.

In fact, “experts” trying to hand-wave away evidence without any investigation, while those presenting the evidence are being actively suppressed and banned from various platforms is further evidence of a highly suspicious situation.

Part of having a “cordial” discussion is arguing in good faith, and I would say presenting a single opinion piece in order to ignore a mountain of evidence is in bad faith and fails to address said evidence. If one wants to get at the truth, you engage with the person you’re discussing with and think about the possible weaknesses of your sources.

wuMing · November 6, 2020, 6:26am

“No elected Republican will stand behind Trump’s statement,” your source claims.

And yet…

Governor Krisit Noem

Governor Ron DeSantis

Representatives Jim Jordan and Scott Perry

And even at least one brave Democrat official is speaking out too!

Representative Vernon Jones

But you’re right… nothing to see here!

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 6:27am

I think you missed my point entirely.

wuMing · November 6, 2020, 6:33am

Don’t think so. You put trusting the “average man” on one side and the “experts” on the other while referring back to the two arguments made by two people above.

But my point is that in this instance (and no doubt in others, but not all that fit your observed pattern, which I agree with) it is not a matter of trusting the opinion of the “average man” in the same way one might trust the opinion of the “experts”. We are given first hand evidence, primary sources, if you will. That is not opinion.

No trust is involved unless you believe photos and videos have been doctored, or that numerous people are outright lying. The latter is not an entirely unreasonable skeptical view to have, but it is not the same as there being opinion on the line.

MasterOfYellow · November 6, 2020, 6:38am

This is why I said this:

Both sides accuse the other of lying & manufacturing evidence to support their claims. So, we need an objective review of the claims so a determination as to the truth can be made. Sure, everyone can do this themselves individually, but collectively we rely on the courts for this, or at least we’re supposed to in Western society.

wuMing · November 6, 2020, 6:56am

In general, yes, both do accuse each other of that, but in the specific case here, in this thread, one side presented evidence (which can be impugned as you suggest) and the other an opinion piece. I would say those things are of distinctly differing quality, and an opinion can be much more easily dismissed as “just an opinion” than evidence can. At the very least if one is debating in good faith one ought to lay out one’s case for why the evidence is either false or misinterpreted.

And, to take this all on an even further tangent, since we both are seemingly pretty skeptical, I think it is worth pointing out that the courts themselves are not exactly the bastions are truth and justice one wishes they might be. Humans are incredibly fallible, and never more so than in this age when the idea of virtue has all but been forgotten in the name of pragmatism. Even so far as virtue remains on people’s minds, they are concerned with the ends rather than the means by and large, it seems to me.

Of course, if you (or anyone) want to assault my high opinion of the past, there are of course examples like the trials of Socrates and Jesus, to name but two, where courts did not just get things wrong but willfully did so.