Hope you all are doing absolutely fine. I’ll try to keep it as brief as possible. Last time i ised voc ( vibration of creation ), it was so blissful that i overdid it and it messed me up pretty good, and i definitely dont want that again. I’ve shared my experience of that in another post, it was a few years ago. Im good now, in fact, i had this feeling in early 2025, that i should stop the fields, but i didnt follow through on it. And in december 2025, i reduced my listening to 1 stack that has just 3 fields and if im being honest ive achieved all the internal transformation i wanted in a month than i did with mutiple fields in years of sapien journey. Mutiple factors to it. And in due time i will be letting go of fields completely as my path going forward is a bit different. And i just had this nudge that i should start voc and wanted to come on here to ask you guys, ones who have experience with voc ,
How do i go about it? Do i listen to it on alternative days? Do i do 10 mins of it daily? Grounding after that? Please free feel to jot down.
Omw to be dissolved and detach from myself once again, and i hope this time for eternity🙃
Ps. I might include some hair and youth fields later till i remain a participant in the society, dont come at me in case i make a post for that in the future
Grounding and Detachment for spiritual growth would be enough imo
and maybe every other day? its hard to give an opinion on that since this hits different everybody.
I didnt work with this much after getting Ascension-naut and Universal Om to me they were the after this adding to keep it as natural state still “living”. and once in a while id go to revisit them but Universal Om is what keeps me “in the flow” so to speak.
if you are going to focus on this maybe look for Universal Om NFT and work with both?
Thank you ! I knew about ascension naut and was going to buy it but the experience with voc was so intense, i didn’t paid much attention to naut. I’ll look into universal om as well, i had forgotten about it, been a long time since i came to forum
For sure !
I worked on my nervous system quite a bit or lets say i reeuced sensory inputs of all kinds and started living like grandparents cuz i realised their lifestyle is top tier for balance, yk movement, sun, nature, less screen, simple food etc etc.
I also realised that all i need is 2 qualities for everything and these would solve all my problems, make me at peace, and fulfill all that i want.
Unconditional acceptance ( which includes no complaining)
Gratitude
That’s it. I’ve been making my life as simple as possible, living with detachment while still enjoying it all😊 and the fields I’ve been using are only soul restoration core, non judgemental acceptance and attract wealth so i can increase the flow of money and buy some acres and leave society. At least that’s my plan for now. I also have other plans but we’ll see when the time comes.
Ye it is really hard to say.
For me voc is very physical (it actually impacts my cycle if I loop it to this day - and I’ve had it almost since it came out) but also I know if I overuse it bc then it brings emotional wounds to the surface too intensely.
It’s nothing groundbreaking m, but I’d say start with 1x every other day + grounding a bit and see how you feel. Idk what other spiritual practice you’re doing, they might impact one another as well.
Yeah, for me voc messed me up pretty good pretty far, everything came into awareness all at once, fears were magnified 100x, i couldn’t even drive peacefully without thinking of something bad happening, was literally shaking i was at a relative marriage and none of my relatives would even greet me and nobody talked, everybody maintained a distance and would just stare at me. I started seeing myself from a 3rd person view, out of my body. All this and more in 4 days of 2-3 times voc per day. So yeah, i dont want that intensity rn man.
Im just listening to soul core, non judgemental acceptance and attract wealth. Other than that meditaation or rather self hypnosis and some devi stotrams.
I think to be safe, if i do, I’ll start with10 minutes on alternate days or may even listen to it once a week for a month, then increase to 2 times per week for 2nd months and so on, just to be safe.
VOC has grown stronger over time.
Take care of your nervous system.
VOC introduces very high vibrational energy into the system.
The nervous system must integrate these energies.
Physical rewiring must occur, and it takes time.
You can buy a nervous reset audio, or if you have Plasma Brain of Youth, loop it.
Also, use grounding audios to help integrate whatever gets released.
It’s amazing that you feel such a strong attraction to truth at such a young age.
Also remember, enlightenment must be lived in the physical world, not only in the head.
Consciously learn to circulate your internal energies.
Living life fully is another way of reaching enlightenment.
For example, indulging in a skill trains deep focus, similar to samadhi-like states.
Feminine energies sometimes trigger pure presence, devotional states, creativity, longing, and many other experiences.
Humiliation and betrayal can collapse the ego.
Sometimes truth arises on its own as direct knowing.
Fully living life is another sure path to enlightenment.
Best of luck on your forward journey.
My journey actually started way earlier before sapien medicine. I was a troubled kid and it all started when i was around 12, i intuitively started turning inwards for answers, conversating with the universe, receiving visions of the future events and the knowledge started coming to me, through thoughts, through dreams, i was awakened yet still not stable or at peace. But soon i had this dream, only 3 words in white " meditation and consciousness " and i did that, god into non duality before i even heard the word. But my parents got worried lol and somehow they coerced me into living a societal life hehe. But the knowledge never left me, and in 2020 after i lost everything, career, love, friendship, literally everything, i was forced to go inward again and now im more at peace than ever, living life unphased by the illusion, but yet still to be established in the state.
Im 27 rn, rebuilding my life from scratch, im in no hurry but still i occasionally wonder what would’ve or where would i be if i had not been influenced by my parents. And the funny things is they have started to realise that i was right and come to me for advice on things
And ah yes, I’ve always been dominated by feminine energy, 2 years ago, i started asking goddess kali to take care of my worldly affairs and to return me to the self. but im also curious, how’d you know about this and me being young?
It’s a great thing to empty yourself and then rebuild from scratch. It simply means the old self has died. It feels like standing on the brink between your old life and your new life. The new life hasn’t started yet, but the old one is already gone.
It’s also a powerful time to build a new identity and purpose that truly align with who you are.
I would suggest a few things.
First, build Saturnian-type discipline. Do certain things daily with consistency—maintain hygiene, make your bed, and stick to simple routines. You can also add the Star Exercise. The Star Exercise will take care of daily integrated spiritual growth.
Retention and circulation create a constant drive, ambition, and many other benefits. That will become your foundation.
Specifically, find your own path without contamination from anyone—including your parents. At this stage, parents can sometimes act as a distraction, at least temporarily.
Find a skill and deepen it. That skill should eventually give you financial leverage. A guided-path audio of bountiful harvest, and if you use an abundance audio (for example, from Sapien Medicine), choose only one and stay consistent with it.
This phase is like a pre-expansion stage, and it is very important.
Shoot upward and build momentum. Fully indulge in your life and learn social skills.
And never forget to love women—they are some of the most amazing creatures on this planet.
Explore this planet, because it has an endless variety of things and experiences to offer.
Even our great master Dream fully indulged in life, as did Sammy and other highly respected members.
Yess, exactly, energetically i have entered 85-90% into new life, i can feel it, soon it will be so in physical plane. In fact, your comments are testimnoy of that. Everytime my reality shifts energetically, im lucky enough to see the progress bar.
And yes, I’ve already made up a concept for my parents and called it " divorcing your parents ", although they now unconditionally support me, even when they dont understand. I am conscious enough to not let others knowingly or unknowingly manipulate me, i always make my own decisions.
For sure about enjoying life, my plan is to get wealthy, enjoy whate life has to offer for some years, buy acres and be self sufficient and just be.
And your advice about discipline? Im already working on that spot on advice.
