A New Way of Approaching Community Projects?

Community and Side Projects
#30

I understand.

To be fair, the profiteering hasn’t been and isn’t limited to community projects. As far as I can tell, the profiteering has existed long before I joined this forum. It seems to me (I hope) that the large part of the profiteering has been driven by the pirates who continue to plague Sapien and over whom Sapien has limited influence. Sure, some of our forum friends have decided to get in on that gravy train, too, and that gives a more succulent pie for the pirates.

If we can shift that compensation piece away from a resale market, there’s a possibility that we can create a solution that satisfactorily compensates the creators (including Team Dream) while only leaving crumbs of the pie for the pirates.

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#31

:point_up: Important!

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#32

That could possibly where re-minting comes into play, maybe by batches of 10/20/50/100 depending on how popular a NFT is.
Maybe each batch could be a different colour variant like what Dream just recently did with the 9 Financial Points.

So First Edition mintings are for group members and will have their own special rarity like a collectible. So still keeping lil bit of that spicy NFT game value.

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#33

I reckon there have been proposed NFT projects that’s original aim was for this very reason . So you know, instead of selling it exclusively, just publicly.
True, the ones suggested/submitted were deity oriented, so they aren’t Divine Gong or Astral Walkie Talkie like, but still, it’s a start?

Poseidon could be another :woman_shrugging:t2:
(Persephone, Isis, Osiris, Aphrodite, Parvathi were submitted)

But its interesting. Because sometimes when it’s announced for public sale the desire to obtain said nft diminishes, drastically.
Why, idk but it’s deff a thing.
For persephone I think only 4 people reached out lol
We weren’t that stupid to know that it would have been such a higher bandwagon had we said something like “10 members. 2 copies each, only”.

So the exclusivity is what fuels the nft desire design.
Which is why I dont think it works, unfortunately

&
I cannot believe im about to say this bc i sound like a freaking dwight but

I dont think forcing the whole do the 20/60/100 release is a good idea.
I cant help but think it’s like forcing the implementation of a Marxist economy on a currently happy go lucky Capitalist one

The idea is freedom of choice.
By some of us actually wanting “hey lets make this all equal”
You take away that important characteristic capitalism holds; exclusivity. And fundamentally, NFTs only work because of that; it’s really just another capitalist school of thought just clothed in fancy digital terms.
If you take that away, well then perhaps you are taking away the customer, too.

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#34

Unfortunately true :sweat_smile:

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#35

I think everyone should just re-read what our guy said back at the major blueprint thread.

I think if some of y’all see it from that perspective, it might help

Just focus on this part:

Remember, you are disliking the fact that something that you were not aware of, and never existed was made and now offered for a limited sale

^I mean yeh.
Idk. Dont throw rocks at me. But yeah lol

I think we just need to change the outlook. It’s really cool. You can always save up to eventually get it or better yet make another. It won’t be the same! It can be similar sure but rest assured everyone can still get a lovely piece of cake :slight_smile:
When there’s a will, there’s a way

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#36

I think the the why here is the crucial part. Personally I believe this is partly due to people not buying in order to sell.

Also, more often than not the desire to obtain doesn’t diminish. Look at Black Panther and Tuaoi Crystal for example (both semi-open projects). They both sold out in a day. Look at point of no return. Look at solidifier. Heck look at BOL, Plasma Flaunt and all the other non-NFT releases.

If people are interested in the product, and not the potential future monetary value, they will buy it.

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#37

Now Chessie this is important to realize.

People- many people are interested in NFTs. Part of the appeal is the rarity; part in its unique design.

And i am not even speaking on the whole schpeel on reselling right now. Thats just like pixie dust to all this. I mean even if one couldn’t resell not every one of the 400 members can fit into the 20 NFT slots

You see its about understanding
In life we cant always get what we want

We offered a few possibilities and that in itself is pretty cool
There were only supposed to be like 12 NFTs anyways

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#38

I understand that.

So then this sounds like a fantastic solution, right?

Seems to me this would work out great for people who are interested in owning a rare collectible, as well as for the people who are more interested in the specific utility Dream’s NFT’s have.

Think of it like Pokémon cards. You could have a charizard that’s worth $10k, and mine could be worth $10. But in a card game they would both have the same strength and abilities.

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#39

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#41

I like you bless up b :pray:t5:

#42

Could be due to the nature of the NFT itself, instead of being on public sale. take Solidifier as an example.

#43

I don’t see how there can be freedom of choice with lesser copies made available.

#44

She is saying anyone can make any project they want with any number copies they want = freedom of choice

People coming and choosing the number of copies on your project for you = less freedom of choice

And she is right, this is smaller scale debate about how to distribute things in society, it’s the same debate happening in every country and political system.

People want to suggest or flat out choose things for you for themselves to keep up with their biased self-serving version of “fair”

Is it so hard to get it…
People are so caught up on the fomo it gets hard to have a convo

This is why this debate is useless, some want socialism (literal socialism, no prejudice) some want laissez faire.
We won’t get an agreement and Captain makes the law and he wanted it this way.

If you want things done your way, go talk to Captain and he will decide how it should be done

Flash news: he already came out a bunch of times speaking his opinions.

PS: I didn’t get any NFT for over a year, but then I realized it was gonna stay and made my peace with it. I suggest those who haven’t yet accepted the reality get to terms with it.

I applied for a bunch of groups and haven’t been selected, lot of NFT I want out there that I won’t have. Same for everyone.

I make my own projects and feel gratitude for what I have. Making the best decisions I can.

But right now, you are missing a lot of opportunities to do something

If you need help making your own, if you want a co-leader, ask for it.
If you want help coming up with ideas, you group will help. If you ask, people will show up.

Or keep this debate going into next year and the year after and the year after. It’s already been going on for 2 years. Why stop now

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#45

Also, if everyone gets your project, how will you trade your copies for another project if everyone got your project already ?

Happened to me trying to trade my copies and people had it already, how can I trade ?

We’re supposed to trade collectible cards and have fun, making better NFTs, more original.

Take responsibility, trade mine for yours, create our own little world and economy.

People will eventually trade their copies when they had all the benefits.

This was supposed to be fun.
A fun constructive game for the community.

People don’t want you to be in their project, make your own with your friends… limitless opportunities

But people got caught up in “I didn’t get this and that boohoohoo”

Maybe Dream wanted to build something bigger than himself with people fixing the prices (btw, he has his own copies that maybe he will sell later), creating their equilibrium and culture around it.

If you think Dream doesn’t read and doesn’t know what you guys think, keep writing.

If you think your idea of right and wrong is not just your beliefs but the absolute truth… keep writing

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#46

why would there be a need to trade if every project was made available to everyone?

I didn’t know this was the purpose of NFTs. I always thought it was about us benefiting from our collective brainstorm of ideas as a community.

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#47

Jeezus…

Because… it’s a freaking game !!!

That’s what Dream wanted, to add a little fun

Did I just write two long post for nothing !?

My fault, I bothered trying to explain

Available to everyone, it used to be everything should be free on YouTube

Why would I need to pay my car if it was free ?
Jeezus, I keep buying things to get them. I forgot the commie revolution happened and everything is unlimited for everyone because they exist and they deserve it all

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#48

Well, if you don’t know, now you know :slight_smile:

#49

I said “available”, not free.