A theology discussion

Is there something like the devil? The opposite with powers to destroy creation?

I like this thread,

My small humble views.
God is genderless, it is completely ridiculous to think it is either male or female
but it begs the question, what is god? in a limited human perception that sees the world in male and female, its easy to assume a gender. Oh woe be to the Hermaphrodite animals and creatures that even exist here.
this is all a limited perception, how can you know more if you cant see past the limits you have put in place yourself.?
It always easily to state something you read with a intellectual understanding. (ah it must be so)
but a realization is far more than an understanding of course.
I would state it leads to a complete understanding in reference to the absolute.
the absolute being not a abstract perspective, but one that transcends the limits of reality including the stated Planck distances and the function of relativity within our movement towards different spaces controlled by time, of course its folly to think time and space has any effect in other ā€˜realmsā€™ of existence beyond ours, much less a gender.

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gender is an illusion. Learn to see oneness in all. :grin:

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The masculine/feminine energies exist regardless of gender, they are another duality. The male gender is a mix of both energies, generally in an 80/20 ratio favoring masculinity. Same for the female gender being a mix of both, but heavily weighted towards femininity.

In the same way, ā€œGodā€ would have and express these energies as well. The masculine energies of ā€œGodā€ have been understood as God the Father, and the feminine energies of ā€œGodā€ have been understood as the Goddess/The Holy Spirit.

That doesnā€™t mean that ā€œGodā€ is either male or female, itā€™s just a human conceptualization to try and understand spiritual energies.

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Beautiful @SammyG and very much my experience. I have a question, just a nuance on the shiva/shakti embrace. Iā€™ve never quite got my head around the feminine aspect as passive vs active. Just in my mind it seems like shiva as the passive, the container, the unmanifest and shakti as the active, everything thatā€™s manifest, everything in motion. I know theyā€™re just labels in the end, but I have a curious mind haha would you expand a little?

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Great question. Because trantric yoga does refer to shiva as the passive and shakti as the active. The shakti is is the energy, the power. It is energy in which is active. Shakti is the driving force behind shivaā€™s actions and power. It is like the feminine is the behind the scenes while the masculine is the manifest.

So itā€™s a matter of perspective. Both can be seen as either passive or active which they both are depending from where and how perceive it. Itā€™s like the yin and the yang, they are both one in the same.

I tend to see shiva as the active because it represents consciousness. But others may see it the other way and they arenā€™t wrong either.

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Adding to this thread. This has been coming up for me for a while now and I would like some additional insight from others.

Question - Itā€™s been stated in many books that our destinies have been already defined and cannot to be changed. We live the life that is written in the stars and we follow it as is.

Wellā€¦ if thatā€™s the case, then how do wearing dog tags/ listening to morphic fields fit in?
Arenā€™tā€™ we changing ourselves and our destinies? Our paths have changed courseā€¦ correct?

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Maybe listening to morphic fields and acquiring the tags were part of that predefined path.

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@mgsjarvis Trueā€¦ that is possible.

That opens up the bigger question about a predefined path. If your path is already laid out then does that mean you donā€™t really have any control over your lifeā€¦?

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Maybe those books are wrongā€¦
Find better books :slight_smile:

Yes. or was it your destiny to find SM and use his things :woman_shrugging: :wink:

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hmmā€¦What would you recommend to read?

If that is so, then I really donā€™t have any control of my life/path. Everything is already planned out in the bigger picture ā€¦ ? The choices that Iā€™m making are not really choices then. Thatā€™s a depressing thought

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If only there was some technique you could use the integrate the seeming polarities of Destiny vs Free Will. :thinking:

Pretty sure thereā€™s a ā€œOMā€ reading list around here somewhereā€¦ thought even in this thread but I might be mistaken.

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ahhh yesā€¦thanks for reminding me. :) I feel the question might still be valid even after reaching neutrality. :thinking:

Yes, there is one somewhere. I didnā€™t know if it tackled this subject. Iā€™ll look for it.

Thank you!! :pray:

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If you havenā€™t reached an answer that satisfies you then it hasnā€™t been integrated completely.

Meh, it should be beyond Neutrality. See our PMs about that.
True integration should leave one in a state of bliss, if not momentary ineffableness.

So, either thereā€™s more ā€œpolaritiesā€ around the subject that also need to be integrated (which is very common with most issues)
or
the technique was taught to you inadequately.

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Itā€™s only depressing if you view it like that. Iā€™m quite happy just being an observer of destiny. An observer of not just what will happen to others but also to me.

There isnā€™t anything I can do about it and whatever I have done and will do has always been part of destiny.

Although I have to pretend I have free will to function in society as a human. Stillā€¦I understand that destiny might be all there is. Could be completely wrong though.

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Iā€™m familiar with Grumpy Cat, but what is thatā€¦murder cat?!? Yikesā€¦

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There is a term for that ;

Slave.

Are you a slaveā€¦?

Wake up man, nobody gives two fuks about some human on earth. We are so insignificant in the grand scheme, I sometimes wonder how our egos manage to convince us we are special.

There is no destiny, only growth.

Only thing keeping you in chains is yourself.

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100% disagree

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Sure thing snowflake.

Play vibes of transcendence and tell me how special you are :roll_eyes:

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