Thanks for the insightful discours here enjoyed reading itđđž
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Agreed 100%
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Here Iâll fix everything with an overall conclusion 
. Basically, we canât really judge each others beliefs because we each have done our own research and have knowledge about different things. I for me personally am on Gnosticâs side as I have done research on both the side for the vaccine and against the vaccine. Well to be exact the most current one. In all honesty, we each have our own beliefs and circumstances that led us to believe certain notions and limitations to our beliefs.
However, I personally think Gnostic gave very good sources. Itâs hard to dig up sources when the sources are continually buried and deleted by agenda minded individuals thus, Gnostic has to work double as hard.
However, at the same time I canât disregard what Dr Manhattan. He is a smart guy pretty sure he knows some stuff we donât know as well, but they do say smart people sometimes are less receptive to the truth but once they know the truth they consider everyone else wrong.
Tbh, not everyone who took the vaccine has had a vaccine injury âyetâ. Now I put yet because I for one believe it will happen sooner or later. I believe the environment plays a detrimental role in vaccine injury as well. Maybe even morphic fields that have to do with genetics. As you said natural selection survival of the fittest. Sure thing, this can apply to this scenario as well. We grow to adapt eating junk food, we grow to adapt being more tolerable to junk food ;thus, it doesnât really affect us as much as it should. Maybe the same applies for the past vaccines. Maybe some people more severely reacted to the vaccine because their genetic composition did not have the capabilities to adapt to a new substance a new rna to conjoin into their bodies. Who knows. Maybe itâs all the fields that made you lose all the years of adaptability for example BOL could potentially do that. But one thing is for sure this vaccine the MRNA vaccine was a new Type of vaccine. Usually it would take years to prepare a vaccine but they hurriedly brought out the vaccine claiming it was experimental at first. Not only was the vaccine a foreign vaccine compared to the other previous vaccines, but it was a underprepared vaccine. I mean what could go wrong? True, every vaccine has a side effect, but thatâs only when to take into account that they are well tested, but the current Covid vaccines werenât well tested.
Which explains the numerous deaths and side effects. Usually animals would be our trial and error but this time it was humans. But why? Well, Bill Gates a man who has no scientific background, who doesnât have a degree anywhere near the medical field said these vaccines were safe. These vaccines were for population control. These vaccines were for genetic engineering and these vaccines were specially recommended by him a rich man with no medical or scientific background. I mean what could go wrong? I suppose his plan being a success. He made mandatory vaccination very possible. Not just him but the globalists made it that people now have to living in the norm of having heart attacks and stroke without realizing the actual cause. I mean what a world eyyy. Sometimes when one person says one thing wrong, they focus on that one thing disregarding the other 99% of points made so please do not do that.
Anyways what Iâm trying to say is that. Every scenario played to produce to mandate to even force jab individuals has perfectly been planned in a synchronized pattern. Itâs really not rocket science. Simple google searches arenât enough to give you valid sources as they are mostly liberal sources. Biased sources. Thatâs why when you search up about the vaccine you canât find a single source that says the vaccines are dangerous on the web instead you get fact checkers on Facebook and on Instagram which aims to denounce everything that seems to be against the vaccine. Hey you never know though the vaccines could have actually been good and the liberal fact checkers are just doing their job to keep the people safe from knowing the side effects individuals had to experience. Cruel ainât it?
Unfortunately, thatâs the world we live in a cruel world. Eat or be eaten. We need to stick up for each other because there is always a predator seeking to destroy you. Thatâs life. Life became absolutely difficult to grasp. Pain and suffering became a norm. Death and sorrow became a cold nail to the heart for many. And life still goes on but not the same anymore. Itâs different. People are different. Thatâs not the life I would want someone to go through. Deep inside I know they are in pain. Wish I can help but it is out of my grasp.
I live for the truth and fight for the truth. We are all humans, we all had our ups and downs. Most of us all have a family we dearly love and want to protect. All of us were once innocent kids who didnât know the scare of the world. I mean just think about the past wow hasnât it been a wonderful rollercoaster ride? For some itâs been difficult. Itâs been hard. I know. For some itâs been a blast. Easy life easy world. But in the end we are all just humans. We will wither away like the dust of the sand. For now the world changed us to become something we see in the mirror hideous in blind sight. Applies to many. Letâs not make it harder for each other. Iâm sure Gnostic gave specific sources out of love and wanting to show you guys, âHey out there; there seems to be this kind of information, letâs not fall victim. I just want to let you know just incase.â Life is already hard letâs not make it harder. I mean fuck my lifeâs already a mess because of the vaccine I wished someone would have warned me back then. I just want to turn back the time.
But if you really want the MRNA vaccine it is your choice. Let your conviction tell you what to do. But ask yourself this can I take 10 boosters and be fine? If you can then go for it.
I myself will never and am 100% sure Gnostic will never as well. But do what you think is right. We canât force you to believe in a certain way. We canât force you to not take the vaccine. We can only warn you âhey this happen to my family and this kind of information seems to be floating around.â But In the end itâs your choice. Just be smart and itâll be fine.
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Just going to leave some data and documents here:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/
SEE HERE 
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf (Some of the Pfizer documents)
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777417
Article is data of of 05/2022 :
From 2021-2022. This here is also old and has been growing.
Epidemic Of Heart Issues In Athletes
Also very old
https://www.rwmalonemd.com/deathreports
Regarding âisolationâ of the virus
The vax does indeed change your DNA, when they said it wouldnât.
Former Pfizer VP of RRD, explains the scientific data exposing the reason for large variation range of Injuries & Deaths from the experimental injections. There is clear evidence that the Batch contents are different ! He describes this deliberate difference between the batches as ⌠âThe Calibration of a Killing Weaponâ
Just want to hightlight these again as well
Now, some episodes from the Sequel To The Fall of The Cabal series, which I highly recommend everyone watch every single episode of. Keep this in mind when watching.
Now, here is the documentary Died Suddenly. I want to be clear, there is some stuff in here that is not true, such as some of the videos in here of people dropping dead were actually previous to the vax rollout, so canât be attributed to it. But most of this documentary is verifiably true!
Just something extra I wanted to share thatâs bizarre. Sheâs one of many who think this way too.
I can just keep going. There is so much data out there. Most of it is collected, analyzed, and distributed by independent/citizen journalists because the mainstream sources lie by omission and social media companies censor it, as they censor whistleblowers and the literally thousands of doctors around the world who agree itâs a depopulation weapon, including my very own doctor. But now that Elon Musk owns Twitter, people are finally speaking freely again and now the masses are awakening to the truth about these shots.
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Oh I forgot they are planning for another plandemic that kills a lot of children this time.
And I donât want to hear bullshit like this when the motivations of the cabal are very clear. The macro is whatâs important. Big picture. Fact checkers = cabal. We are dealing with an elite international crime syndicate who openly calls for a complete surveillance state, mass depopulation, vax passports, CBDC tied to a social credit score, which is already in place on the corporate level with their ESG scores, smart cities, etc. World Economic Forum agenda implemented worldwide.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-catastrophic-contagion-idUSL1N3351YU
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Maybe that is true for some lower level players involved. Of course not everyone involved knows whatâs going on. They are pawns and puppets. But I believe the higher you go up in the chain of elites, their plan was clearly much more sinister. If you want, go through the massive post I did above. I have such a high level of conviction because what I posted above is a fraction of what Iâm using to form my opinion. There is nothing new under the sun. The nazi and other totalitarian archetypes didnât just come and go, theyâve always existed in the world of archetypes and always will. Same as the holy archetypes and everything in between. We are dealing with the same âspirit/psychological blueprintâ operating through much of the ruling class. The World Economic Forumâs rhetoric, agenda, and behavior is 100% nazi and psychopathic. Just read Klaus Schwabâs books. Watch the things Yuval Noah Harrari says. They are telling us what their plans are, yet no one wants to believe them. I find it bizarre. They even carved them in stone on the Georgia Guidestones in Elberton, Georgia. We are dealing with the rise of the 4th Reich when it comes to the WEF and whoever is above them. Which reminds me, research Operation Paperclip (declassified CIA program that brought nazi scientists to America). The scientists and the media (research Operation Mockingbird) are KEY to their plans. This is spiritual war. When people fail to see that, itâs hard to understand why anyone would want to depopulate and enslave the world.
This is an article from PrussiaGate substack. I suggest you read the entire âPrussia Gateâ series too.
https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/reichswef-23-death-squared
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Gigi Young does a fascinating presentation of the type of ideology and people we are dealing with in this:
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On which scientific base do you make this claim?
Most cases will never be officially reported because it is not easy to do so. Most of the time doctors will tell you âit has nothing to do with the vaccinationâ without any proof or explanation for their statement (2 such cases in my family).
Under the influence of mass media they either cannot believe the holy vaccine could do any harm or they dread the work of reporting the possible side effect.
In Germany a medical doctor needs around 30 minutes for a single case report of possible vaccine side effects to Paul Ehrlich Institute. The doctor does not get paid for that. Only very enthusiastic doctors want to do this unpaid work on a regular basis. I understand that.
But the result is of course under-reporting.
I have seen a TV report where one doctor hired another doctor for his doctors office to fill out this reports full time - from morning till evening. I applaud this doctor for his strong ethics. But how many doctors do you think want to pay additional doctors from their own purse to get these reports done?
The result is that there is no data on which you could scientifically claim that these vaccines are safe.
On the contrary:
In Germany there is data of all compulsory sickness insurances from all of doctors diagnoses. (Even if doctors do not report side effects, they want to get paid for the visit/treatment and therefore sign a diagnose).
The analysis of this data shows a strong increase for certain diseases known to be associated with mRNA vaccines but more important it shows a strong increase of sudden deaths without any explanation. Starting in 1. quarter of 2021, shortly after covid vaccination started (middle of december 2020).
As always: correlation does not mean causation but it is a strong hint that something important is going on and as a science based country you should explore that.
A hurried explanation why this data would not be valid was given by officials to media. This explanation has already been debunked, but of course this hasnât been mentioned by media. Everyone has to believe these shots are safe.
To repeat it: There is no explanation for these sudden deaths and nobody cares. And the dead cannot protest.
(Graph from a press conference of data analyst Tom Lausen. As you can see the last 5 years before mRNA vaccines, even whole 2020 where corona ruled everything there is no real incline in sudden deaths. Then 2021 it explodes. More than 1000% more sudden deaths. Absolute numbers of sudden deaths per year are the numbers under the graphs)
Or if you want a graph with numbers from single quarters, it does not look any better - the rise in sudden and unexpected deaths starts in 1. Quarter 2022:
If you want to know what R96.1 means you find it on the website of the German ministry of health: ICD-10 code: R96.1 Death occurring less than 24 hours from onset of symptoms, not otherwise explained
âThe person died suddenly and unexpectedly. The cause of death is unknown.â
The original press conference seems now to be censored on YouTube, if you understand German (or just want to check the original source of both graphs) you might watch it here Tom Lausen - Pressekonferenz: Schockierende Zahlen zu Impffolgen 12.12.2022 (360p)
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Very well said
this is what my dadâs doctor tells him. My dad doesnât believe him. And my dad was a pro vax as one can possibly get before his injury.
There is also this from 06/22 that I forgot to share.
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Obviously I was talking about vaccines in general, most of them have been studied.
As for Covid 183,000,000 doses have been administered in Germany alone. At least 60,000,000 people have received 1 shot.
So even if you double the number of reported death 8,000 (which I do not believe are all strictly due to the vaccine for many logical reasons)
Thatâs 16,000 death (double the estimate remember).
Thatâs 0,02%.
With double the death count and a lower number of total vaccinated people. The real number is probably lower. We could also have removed the normal number without covid vaccine (but instead we doubled it).
Thereâs been 165,000 covid deaths, the German population is quite old and vulnerable.
While the vaccine is not working 100% we know that it does improve the odds and the death count would have been higher. Post vaccine death count crumbled.
Thatâs with early, few months old emergency vaccines.
I can keep going, but I feel that there is a lot of
emotion going on and even though I hate the government, I hate being force to do something let alone ingest medicine. I agree about coverups, lies.
But then there is a silly conspiracies fueled by emotions.
A lot of the stuff you guys quotes donât pass the smell test.
Like I read some of the articles that have been shared and i feel exhausted just reading them and thinking about having to explain basic distinctions.
Letâs say Iâm just not as motivated as you guys or Iâm flat out wrong.
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I just gave you massive amount of data. The deaths are far beyond what youâre saying. 8,000? I know you didnât look at one thing I posted cuz I can see they havenât been clicked on at all. Millions are dying from this shot worldwide. Believe what you want. Avoid really looking into it.
That doesnât even include whatâs itâs doing to the blood of people who donât even know theyâre injured yet. We have still yet to see all the damage and death.
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He showed me Germany, I took his own data. From his graph
But like⌠I said it was from Germany quite a few times. You should read
Like I said I replied to @steeler with his own data, I actually clicked and read some articles of yours, it doesnât show the count.
I was ready to reply to the first 3 articles but then it kept going and I gave up
But again even with 0,001% of the population getting sick out of it, with a mass vaccinations on billions some millions will die thatâs why itâs only used in case of real or perceived urgency.
I wouldnât call it a genocide or say that big pharma loves having its drugs failling.
Theyâve forced us to put together the pieces. If youâre looking for an authoritative source to tell you the actual worldwide death count, which we may never get, youâre going to be out of luck. You gotta do the research yourself. I gave a lot to start with. You can first go here and in the article, click on the link that says ârevealedâ to get to Pfizerâs own documents that they were forced to release by a judge. Thatâs a start. We are lucky we even got these at all.
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You can study the VAERS system too.
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Is this what you find shocking ?
@Gnosticmedic27 is this your problem ?
Viagra can fuck up your health in a worse ratio and it doesnât save lives.
Again, Iâm sorry to break it to you but ALL medicine can have side effects and will be dangerous to a low percentage.
Thatâs your take away from the documents? Not the alarming amount of diseases, injury, and death? You didnât even read them.
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No, actually any vaccine with the amount of injury and death as this one is supposed to be discontinued.
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Again, you say itâs alarming, I say it was to be expected by anyone with basic knowledge of pharmacology.
The rest is politics.
Were the decisions made the right one ?
I donât think so. They fucked up, but a depopulation scheme ?
With the trillions we lost, the reputations and crisis to kill the equivalent of the population of a small country indiscriminatelyâŚ
Faced with the urgency, Pharma companies have been absolved of responsibility so they actually release it fast. There was a global threat.
And at this level even a worse ratio, face with so many possible casualty all of the sudden with a lack of information. It made sense.
People were complaining the gov wasnât doing anything, there was international pressure with other countries waiting on developed countries for a solution.
Again, urgency and risk taking. The bigger the problem, the more downside in a solution people accept. You wouldnât cut peopleâs arm to fix a running nose but you would to prevent deaths.
The danger was overestimated and people panicked.
Did it have the benefits of increasing government control, yes, any crisis does.
still covid vaccine gotta be the lamest attempt at depopulation.
Uhhh no. This is only one dump of their documents. There are much more. Have you even looked at the VAERS system too? Nope.
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