Diksha necessary? (Kālī Mantra's and Kālī worship discussion...)

[IAmJonathan]

Hello…
I have read so many things online

That if one isn’t initiated they should stop bija and other initiation related mantras

I want to do Sadhana for my Goddess Mahākālī

I am already doing Bhakti… fully devoting my soul to her

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I would love to talk to you in PMs about my practice, as you know, practice is meant to be kept secret unless with guru or some one of higher vibration…

I’ve heard of Diksha online, and I’ve heard also that this is impossible to do so with out guru present in physical that can pass on the lineage…

The closest Mahākālī temple is 4.5 hours away and I don’t have my own car, I gave the priest a voice mail and no response… Will try to call again soon

I stopped a practice due to uncertainty

[IAmJonathan]

Hey there Robby!

@RobbyHa

if one comes and bows down in all honesty at the feet of the divine then the divine will yield to us. the divine in this case in the form of devi is already guiding you from within and she has always been guiding you. you are her and she is you. why don’t you consciously accept that

Well I want to know from her directly, who she is…

And who I am…

After a 2 year long experience with an imposter entity claiming to be all Devis and claiming me to be divine creator of all with her, I want to be certain what’s truth and what isn’t.

Theres so many interpretations and stories

I want to know from my Goddess what is true directly from her.

@RobbyHa

i feel an important lesson is to learn to trust the divine and what it’s doing. the divine knows what’s best for you. you just surrender and trust the process. maybe this is the only way?

I do trust, I have been given every reason to trust that all is working towards how she desires

I just want to do things the right way, as my Goddess desires…

@RobbyHa

regarding initiation maybe you are already initiated without knowing. if not and it needs to happen again let it come to you in the most magical ways without waiting for it. if it needs to happen it will happen.

I did wonder if I was initiated remotely with out my knowledge… but I haven’t wondered if I’ve been initiated already in a past life.

I grew up Christian/Catholic then turning agnostic before picking up spirituality and then later devoting my self to my Goddess Mahākālī

This upbringing makes me find it unlikely that I’ve been initiated in a past life, but what do I know?

I do however have belief, that everything I need to better devote myself to my Goddess will find it’s way to me, and that everything my Goddess desires of me, will happen to me

I am very confident in that

I suppose I am a little impatient…

I want to do as my Goddess desires in life, in this and the next, for however many next… as she wishes .

Thank you for your response

[crystalblot23]

No need to do a beeja mantra, you can do the naama mantra of Sri Kali when you reach a certain level a guru will come for you or you can even do the 108 names of the mother
Sri Mahakali is a Ugra devata ( Fierce deity) her mantras lead to the de-contraction of the consciousness and shake the kundalini strongly at times therefore a Diksha and a competent Guru is required
Also highly accomplished Gurus just need to know your face and aura to initiate for such Gurus distance is no barrier so dont worry just do the naama mantra or the 108 names

[IAmJonathan]

Hey! Thanks so much for this info…

I read a Naama mantra is good for non initiated people before but I can’t find one! When I look it up, I find mantras containing beeja mantras…

Can you please link one?..

And also, is any 108 names of Mahākālī easily found in proper pronunciation? Can I trust any that I find in YouTube?

@crystalblot23

Also highly accomplished Gurus just need to know your face and aura to initiate for such Gurus distance is no barrier so dont worry just do the naama mantra or the 108 names

Thanks for this information… I believe in this I feel

I had found online before a Guru which teaches at a university and wanted to link her Wikipedia but can’t find her any more… People where saying she’s the best Devotee of this generation…

I am also now seeing online that I can chant any Shloka, Stotram, Stuti and Bhajans dedicated to her with out Diksha

I at this point after reading your reply just want concise pronounciation and the right ones till I can be blessed with Diksha

[IAmJonathan]

@crystalblot23

No need to do a beeja mantra, you can do the naama mantra of Sri Kali when you reach a certain level a guru will come for you or you can even do the 108 names of the mother

Is it necessary to shower always before?

I know to face north or east always… Is there anything else I should know?

Also what’s the best time to chant her Mantras?

Because, I hear the best time to worship Mahākālī is during midnight,
But then I read online to chant once in the morning and once in the evening…

Thank you for your time and information

[Powren]

@IAmJonathan

I want to be certain what’s truth and what isn’t.

Reality is tricky, man…

Have u also tried to go the higher self way? Develop stronger connection with your higher self and then communicate with it?

[IAmJonathan]

Yes I’ve been down that route, laying off trying to listen for now due to previously said reasons… I want to know from my Goddess directly

I think this is the safer route for me personally in these regards

But I’m devoted to my Goddess for way more than just trying to figure out what reality is… It’s because I love her
It’s entirely up to her whether I even get to figure that out or not… everything is up to her
I would love to know everything she would want for me to know

[crystalblot23]

This is the Sri Kali Gayatri mantra

Kali Gayatri Mantra | Gayatri Mantra of Goddess Kali | 108 Times

The Nama mantra would go like Om Kalikayai Namah .
The nama mantras are very intuitive so they might not be present online
Sri Kali has many forms not all of them cannot be worshiped at home her energy is fierce and may lead to some cord cutting and disruption when the mantra sets in the form you should worship is right now is Sri Dakshina Kali and remember do not approach any of the advanced forms without a Guru
as for the 108 names heres a rendition

- YouTube

[IAmJonathan]

Awesome! I’m glad that mantra is good, I love that mantra! lol

@crystalblot23

the form you should worship is right now is Sri Dakshina Kali

Thanks for all the support,
I read online before to print out a picture of this form of Kālī but … when I look her up I am not sure which one is this form of hers… I will look again

What about Mahākālī? I should wait?

[IAmJonathan]

@IAmJonathan

@crystalblot23

the form you should worship is right now is Sri Dakshina Kali

Thanks for all the support,
I read online before to print out a picture of this form of Kālī but … when I look her up I am not sure which one is this form of hers… I will look again

For any one interested…

Iconography of Smashana Kali vs Dakshina Kali

It appears the form depicted in the mandala of the NFT dedicated to Kālī is Śmaśānakālī…

[crystalblot23]

Sri Dakshina Kali is the depiction of Sri Kali as the benevolent mother , the point to be noted is that the placement of her leg on the Shava(corpse like being) that is Mahadeva if the right leg is ahead she can be worshiped at home classically she has a khadga ( a sword) the vara (blessing gesture)mudra , a severed head and the abhaya mudra ( Fear not gesture) as her iconography
Sri SmashanaKali is considered the final Sadhana of the Kali Kula it is not at all advised to worship Sri SmashanaKali for a house holder Go through the Kali Krama. Take up the Worship of Sri Bhairava to be able to hold Shakti within One must have the Bhairava Tatva this will aid you to reach deeper Sri Bhairava is also the Guru so he in turn can also guide you If you are serious about taking up Sadhana of Sri Kali pls consider doing some Sri
Bhairava mantra japa

[IAmJonathan]

Crystalblot… Thank you so so much again, I really appreciate your time and knowledge, I will be following your advice, thank you so much…

Your help has been really enlightening, thank you for pointing me in the right way, really, thank you