Discussion on masturbation (Kinky stuff)

If you receive regular sex (twice a week at least) then the urge to masturbate goes away. Men who are sex deprived or cant find a girlfriend; compulsively masturbate a lot and have a very negative view of the act which is causing the mental distress. Couples who masturbate together, have a positive experience afterwards but do it alone and men feel depressed. It’s your view on it and you should feel very relaxed afterwards because it’s stress relief. Nofap is a load crap because it’s just ‘bro science’ and a lot of it is indoctrination from religious fundamentalist’s that put fear to god in everyone so they can control people.

It has no actual scientific data except for one thing; it increases aggression (due to the high libido). Many boxers/UFC fighters abstain to make themselves more violent and aggressive in the ring. Now if that’s what it’s used for then it cant be that healthy can it… especially for society?

Compulsive sexual behavior is just a side effect of sex deprivation and loneliness, so it’s nothing to worry about. If you’re a virgin then your body is just telling you that you should maybe seek to find a sexual partner or someone who is down for a fling with you, which is normal and healthy.

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Is it healthy to release once in a while, as recently my testestorone has been high being a young adult and training 4-5 days a week in gym. As in every 3 weeks for example, can this be detrimental?

dont set a date on when to do it. just try your best to stop it completely.

your forgetting the fact that most people who fap do it with porn. porn is the issue.

Just masturbate whenever you feel the need or want lol. It’s just a pleasurable activity and a good way to de-stress. Masturbation is in fact good for you as it reduces the chance of prostate cancer.

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Well it is unnatural since what we’re doing is the act of voyerism. We are masturbating to two people having sex together. It can make actual sex hard because you get used to voyerism.

Just dilute it a bit if you want and just get off to hot naked women like our previous generation did or just use your imagination. Porngraphy has been going since ancient times or dawn of humanity (porngraphic carvings on walls).

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Because it’s bullshit. No enlightened female or male masturbates, period. Ever. No male or female who masturbates will ever reach the height of heights. Can you still have powers? Sure. You’ll have powers in a dark negative way. Powers that come from the dense heavy ego. Not the Soul and Spirit.

It goes in the Bible something like this: “some will awaken to everlasting life…others will awaken to everlasting shame.”

There are 2 ways to awaken.

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I completely disagree.

Sexuality (either with a partner or with yourself) does not disrupt enlightenment at all. It is a limiting belief that these two cannot go hand in hand together. In fact, a healthy sexual expression can accelerate your enlightenment process.

However, what will prevent your enlightenment (with both, having sex and masturbating) is 1. an overdose of Prolactin, 2. losing to much Jing and Ojas and 3. frying your dopamine receptors.

What will however help with enlightenment is the deep unity you feel in your sexual expression when you have sex or masturbate the Tantric type of style.

Sexual energy is a holy creative tool and it can be used for a lot of stuff, including getting pleasure. After all, the source/god is love and joy. Just because most people don’t know how to use the tool, does not mean the tool is in the way of ascension.

In most cases, everytime you believe something is “either, or”, you are falling for a limiting belief matrix trap.
The truth is, that things can be “both” at the same time – if you know how…

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Not true. At all…you’ll only get prostate cancer if you aren’t transmuting the energy. It’s frustrating to see how much misunderstanding there is on this subject. Bunch of black magicians trying to subvert people onto their path is where this crap comes from.

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Masturbation is in fact good for you as it reduces the chance of prostate cancer.

I see people say this all the time but they always seem to ignore that this only applies for certain ages.

Peer reviewed study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19016689/

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Thanks for your reply and explanation of your view.

What I don’t understand is why you are assuming that lust has to be connected or is connected with ego, pride, anger, greed?
It may be the case for many people on earth, however the issue is then link between lust and this negative stuff, not the lust itself.

There is also lust in the higher astral realms, where it is pure energy and not connected to any body or shape. Just because the aspect of lust is misguided and misconnected down here, does not mean that lust itself is the issue.

The issue is not having control over one’s lust and allowing the reptilian brain and ego construct to hijack the lust as a motivator for low-vibrational thoughts and actions. What I want to say is that it is not the lust that plays the tricks, but that the reptilian brain and the ego are abusing lust to play their tricks.

And finally, the Law of Reality Creation through Consciousness stands above everything. Which means that there is no “energetical and metaphysical rule” that they Higher Self cannot override. Ultimatively, Consciousness can override everything (incl. matter and energy) because matter and energy are created by consciosness.

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Lust doesn’t create pride, anger, greed…all of our thought forms are made up of the Creative energy. Not in the form of semen, as energy. It’s the same energy. But, we empower those thought forms instead of destroy them when we orgasm. The energy descends and empowers the subconscious, unconscious and infra conscious elements instead of the consciousness/Higher Self. You can say the energy empowers the atomic infernos. Im speaking from metaphysical experience, not just something I read although there is much written about this.

Also, you’d have to be ignoring Karma (cause and effect) to say the Higher Self overrides anything. Of course, you CAN override natural law. But the energy will always return to its original point and there will be consequences. The law of invariance shows us this.

If there was no cause and effect, we would all be living in peace and harmony and everything would be going our way.

We reap what we sow. And every religion tells us this in a different way. It’s a scientific fact.

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Just test it for yourself…I mean I have years of experience so I know how powerful the ego becomes when I’m masturbating as opposed to going months without.

Bottom line, it’s hard to accept that the orgasm is horrible. I can sit here for hours and explain how the Book of Genesis is about the orgasm creating the rest of humanity’s imperfections. We aren’t in Eden (Hebrew for bliss- a level of consciousness that is innocent- not a place) anymore because of eating from that forbidden fruit.

I gotta go to sleep. Have work in the AM. I’ll leave it at this:
My life is 1,000x better when I go long periods of transmuting.

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The belief in “Karma” and “Cause & Effect” is another matrix trap and can be overriden as well. In fact this is happening on a daily basis.

“Karma”, as well as “cause and effect” are fake rules inside the matrix game.

They can be overriden with the Law of Reality Creation.

The point where souls usually realize this, is pretty much at the end of the matrix game because it is one of the hardest to realize.

The matrix wants you to believe that B follow A and that C follows B etc.

The truth is, once you have True Free Will, you can decide, whether in your personal reality you want to have B following A or not. You can decide that A is followed by D or E of F or nothing at all.
Energy will do whatever you can make it do – it does not need to “return to you”.

For the Higher Selves, the matrix game and all the other simulations are just that – simulations. Simulations in which they have full control. As we develop ourselves and become more and more aligned with our Higher Self, we also develop more and more True Free Will. And with that comes the liberation of the rules of the simulation.

Think about it, “cause and effect” can only take place in a dimension where the illusion of time also exists. In the higher planes, where everything is now, “cause and effect” are whatever the Higher Selves want it to be.

And with enough connection to one’s Higher Self, the incarnated self can gain this power in some situations and experience what many call Grace – a.k.a. being completely freed of the consequences of something.

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Also, if cause and effect is a belief- go throw a stone into a lake.

I strongly believe that this is not irrelevant, even here at the physical earth level. Because, as I wrote above:

“And with enough connection to one’s Higher Self, the incarnated self can gain this power in some situations and experience what many call Grace – a.k.a. being completely freed of the consequences of something.”

This “Power of Grace” has the power to go down into any dimension and level and do its wonders. This is so because the Higher Self has this power. You do not need to do everything yourself as the incarnational self, sometimes one can simply ask one’s Higher Self what shall take place.

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That is true because I am able to achieve what you are speaking of. But not even close to the point of being completely exempt. Idk I guess you’re a Master.

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The matrix wants you to believe that B follow A and that C follows B etc.

Because this way you will accept all the “tasks” and “quests” that the system throws at you in order to “achieve something”.

How about “achieving something” without the BS that the system wants you to believe that “is necessary to be done first” to get there?

I am in no way a “Master” – but I am embracing the mindset that everything is possible without necessary conditions.

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I disagree, because you and your Higher Self can program energy to do whatever you want it to do. If you don’t want it to “return”, then it will not do so. I have experienced it many times in my life myself.

This isn’t a simulation bro…that’s the point of view you sound like you’re coming from.