Discussion on masturbation (Kinky stuff)

It’s a fair question. It’s true, all paths eventually lead to Source at the end of the Mahamanvantara. But your Monad/Spirit & Soul enter with a certain degree of development (Objective Reasoning) or lack of. Then at the dawn of the new Mahamanvantara, you’ll once again have to be ejected out into existence to perfect yourself further. Until you are perfected enough (degree of Anklad) to remain inside the 13th aeon/called the Ain by the Kabbalists (the inner layer of Source). This is what the Gnostics teach and it resonates with every fiber of my intuition.

Objective reasoning refers to the objective ness you need to be a Cosmo-Creator/Master of Creation itself. To be able to be in the hierarchy that controls cause and effect, creating planets, solar systems, galaxies. Such is all controlled by physics/metaphysics. So, there does need to be objective ness for that. IMO, mathematics proves reality is objective at the highest levels.

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I’m happy for you bro. Hope this helps others too.

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I’m glad you brought this up because I’ve been pondering on… rules. If everything is possible then why does our reality have rules? Certain actions have the same repeated results. As you said, throw a stone in the water and see what happens. I have been thinking about this lately as well. As I continually attempt to break down all the walls of my mind, the thought comes to my mind. ‘There are no rules. If nothing is the essence, then rules are all made up.’

So I pondered on this for some time and what came to mind, was that in a way, vibration is rules of experience in a certain states of consciousness. Lower vibration is heavier levels of existence in which you are more plugged into the outer world, by becoming a part of it. Such as us becoming humans in this world. Energy is condensed to a very slow vibration here so the world feels extremely real. For reality to be solid, there has to be rules to keep it organized and in place or otherwise it would be boundless and chaotic. The rules are unique to the world and the vibration within the world you are experiencing.

As we grow in this world, we begin to create new rules through our beliefs. Beliefs create pathways in our life through which we unconsciously follow on a day to day basis. Such beliefs become attachments we hold onto and that keep us plugged into these versions of reality. This makes it even heavier and closed in to the extent it becomes all we know.

So 3D reality is caved in to the agreed upon rules of nature and whatever beliefs that make up your mind (and obviously the structure of the world being experienced, have heavy influence over how reality is experienced). But then the question is, who or what made up these rules? Despite what you believe in, there are certain things that appear inherently true such as the coming of seasons, death and birth. Are the rules of nature universally objective? I wonder…

Of course, the higher the vibration, the less rules there are. There is little to no attachment. Higher you are, the more existence is of within itself and is ever expansive and free. It is more freeform and interconnected. In 3D Reality, things appear to be separate and far apart but in the higher realms, everything is one so all things are closer and easily reached…. at the blink of a thought. Everything is one in the 3D realm as well but the illusion of separation is rather strong so it more often than not doesn’t appear to be so from the perspective of those experiencing it.

So yes, there are rules in this realm. These same rules have been reported to have been broken by UFOs that have been caught in our skies for the past few decades, making maneuvers that break the laws of physics (which is now coming to light finally). So, how objective are these rules if, (hypothetically speaking), aliens can break them quite easily? I feel there is a lot we don’t know about the universe before we can begin to claim we know how it objectively works.

That being said, I don’t know either. These are questions I’ve been pondering on. At some point while pondering on there being essentially no rules, my mind started to break down and get chaotic to the point I brought myself back. I do believe there is a wall within the subconscious that keeps this thing together and in coherence with all other human minds experiencing this reality. I guess this is what Dale meant by one of the veils of the mind (subconscious one I think).

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No bro. I think you really hit on the head. To put it in a couple sentences: the rules change according to the level of consciousness you are at/realm or non-dimension you are in. That’s what beyond beyond good and evil which is more accurately in my opinion ‘entropy and negentropy.’ Or duality. All thing are possible within the Absolute. Less things become possible in the 6th dimension, etc. The possibilities and potential are endless depending on where you are at.

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I think the reason certain guidelines are given here is because that’s what’s useful as a beginning. It’s the most efficient way the teachers see for the average person to ascend to non-duality.

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Very well put brotha! Thanks for condensing my rambling into a simple and more understandable few sentences, with some added wisdom on your part :smile:

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Thank you! You def enlightened me and opened my mind even more.

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Same with you and jaaj. I learn from all ya’lls.

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Man, these kinds of convos deserve articles or threads of their own. But it’s buried in a kinky masturbation thread :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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:joy::joy::joy:it’s unfortunate but hilarious!

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Don’t worry Sammy, everyone reads the kinky masturbation thread :joy::joy::joy:

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I often find myself stuck at the inherent lack of rules in this sort of spirituality when having discussions with friends who subscribe to what they believe is the objective morality offered by their religion.

“If there’s no reason for us to be good human beings who help each other, then what reason do you have to help other people?” - “Because I feel it’s the right thing to do without the need for someone else telling me that”

“The Aztecs felt they were doing the right thing when they sacrificed humans to their gods” - “Well I err…”

Same goes for whenever they ask for an example of a person who was able to achieve material success in the real world, using spirituality.

Errrrrr… Genghis Khan? :sweat_smile:

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Mate, that is basically exactly what I said above when wrote that the “Law of Reality Creation through Consciousness stands above everything.” :wink:

Consciousness IS absolute and absolutely interconnected.
As Sammy wrote, here in the physical realm, it only appears as being separated.
And consciosness is the only ultimate truth with everything else originating from it.

The whole matrix game (astral world + physical universe in it) has been created by a collective group of Higher Selves of the Higher Selves to play and experience.
This might be difficult to grasp from an incarnated human perspective.
This has even been confirmed by Robert A. Monroe in his astral travel books and also various other high-end spirtual material.
Since the game was created by the Higher Selves and since they have absolute power about the game and its rules, you are ultimately able to bring down their power into the physical realm because you are not really disconnected from them.
See the passage about the “Power of Grace” above.
This is also why the Revision technique from Neville Goddard works.

Matrix rules are being broken all the time – but only by the brave and open minded ones.
That’s how our souls outgrow perceived limitations :man_playing_handball: :flying_saucer:.
The rules are there to be broken and overcome.
This is how you develop True Free Will – by making a conscious decision of what you want to manifest rather than what the game offers you.

PS:
Instead of breaking “rules” in the physical realm, another solution to have a ton of sex and masturbate is to do it while lucid dreaming or via astral sex. You lose almost zero energy there but stuff can feel even more real than in the physical :slightly_smiling_face:
People on semen retention often forget about these options and I bet for some dudes it will be easier to learn to astral travel than to go completely cold turkey :joy:

A perfect example of what we discussed above actually. People guided by their reptilian brain “to read about masturbation” and ultimatively stumbling upon spiritual stuff :joy:. All roads lead to Rome…

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Yes, if instead of a few dozen people on this forum there were a few dozen million convinced that the pandemic is over, there would probably be no trace of it in a short time. Staying on the subject, look at what is happening after the majority of people have realized that the origin has been in Chinese laboratories instead of those local markets.

…or Berlin! :laughing:

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What’s everyone’s thoughts on orgasm without releasing?
Is that healthy?

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like a wet dream?

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No like having an orgasm, that energy going throughout your body rather than being released through ejaculation, kind of like transmutation i suppose?

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You only re-absorb the semen and lose slightly less Jing and Ojas.
But you still lose Jing and Ojas, affect your dopamine receptors and flood your brain with prolactin.
Coming without releasing semen, means you are still losing 90% of your “nofap benefits”.

Semen is the least important part in the whole “coming equation”.

PS: Sometimes you need to have an orgasm, otherwise you will have stuck energy in your energy body and will develop neuroticism and other worse stuff.

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am curoius are we born we kinks deeply in our minds without us reaslising it or are they more your up bringing?

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