Discussion on masturbation (Kinky stuff)

Haha, I don’t suppose the forum will go back to no fap mode in January?

It might depend on 21-12-2020

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FOR MEN ONLY:

I can’t speak for the women here. But as a man, I will say this. When I am in confident mode (when I’m not anxious at all), I have no desire to masturbate or even think about it. These urges, diminished as they may be with my 102 day streak, seem to return only when I’m depressed or in a low mood. Make of that what you will.

And from a strictly biological point of view, it makes no sense to me either. Auto-stimulation is basically exploiting a loophole in our body’s physiology. Those chemicals are only supposed to be released when you have actual sexual intercourse. Otherwise it’s just randomly releasing chemicals like any other recreational drug would do. It’s undeserved pleasure.

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Sorry if this comes across as boasting. It’s just to demonstrate the reduction of urges with the length of the streak. I am well aware that some members of this forum have been celibate for decades, and 102 days is nothing to brag about.

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dewbob1998 I watched a video in which it was explained the evolution perspective

  1. We humans are on this earth to have sex, its out highest priority to reproduce and so we want to work hard,get rich just to attract the opposite sex.
  2. When you dont have sex/masturbation for a long time your brain is like "I AM NOT GETTING LAID AND NOW I HAVE TO WORK LIKE HELL SO AS TO ATTRACT OPPOSITE SEX " And so we are physically,mentally,emotionally motivated to do whatever it takes to become the best to get lots of money and so attract the opposite sex
  3. This is why when people start masturbating/have sex they get too much satisfied and they dont feel like working that hard because you are satisfied anyway so why to work like hell now?
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Exactly! Hit the nail on the head there! The spiritual consequences in terms of the loss of Ojas/Shen energy may be negligible but we’ve still got the physical aspects haven’t we? These chemicals are motivators.

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I think the forum didn’t, it’s different people :D

Regarding the “kinky stuff”. I think aversion around this anal stuff (kinky!!) comes down to conditioning. I would think a lot of people view anal sex as rather desirable when it comes to women (conditioning from porn) when actually, it’s men who have an organ khm… accessible from there. Yet men being on the receiving end is considered to be much more kinky.

the association with homosexuality is also an interesting conditioning - what a person enjoys sexually is separate form WHO they want to experience it with.
I have heard a gay woman complain when time and again they meet a guy who tries to convince them he is so good he can turn them straight if she just gives him the chance :expressionless: basically she said that before coming out, when she had a boyfriend, she thought she just didn’t enjoy sex / was asexual… then later when she was with a woman for the first time it was completely different because she was finally actually into it. The 2 ppl could have done the same motions and she would have experienced something completely different.

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Haha now that you mention it, that does make sense. Although a few people have definitely switch sides lol.

But yeah, got nothing against homosexuality or prostatic orgasms. I personally don’t even view anal sex as desirable even with a woman (or even oral for that matter). I’ve always had a natural aversion to these things.

Thank you! These are the kinds of responses i love to read.

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Well I found this thread after 165 posts

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Damn… i want prostate stimulation field :eyes:

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Yes and I’ll add another piece; when you are in confident mode, not only do I have no intention of wasting energy on those things, but I don’t even pay attention to the attention of women, and this is a really important point, because with cleaner male energy (so no p * rn) you are whole, confident, with a great desire to do, which attracts a lot of female attention, if that matters. Being detached from anxiety / desire the effect is multiplied, but basically you feel good and attract more positive experiences.
This is my personal opinion

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I laughed so hard at this coz this is one of the things I plan to do in the future

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Lol, I hope you’re joking.
In case you’re not, please don’t, that’s the type of guy us girls speak very very poorly about in unanimous understanding.

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I agree with this as well. It’s the reason why I think masturbation for men is more difficult to do casually, on an every now and then basis. It becomes addicting way too easily and it’s too draining… especially with all the great porn out there.

And if you aren’t in a good place as a man, no women and no confidence… the ejaculation is falsely rewarding the self and weakening the willpower. No fap is healthy.

That being said… no fapping doesn’t mean that you’ll dramatically become a better man. I’ve noticed that some no fappers (not in here) do no fap with high expectations that it will make them more attractive, confident, ext… It surely makes it more possible but it’s still something you have to work on.

Like if you’re magnetic but give off a negative vibe or don’t know how to interact with women, you’re not getting anywhere. It doesn’t take away the fear you get when approaching a woman. It doesn’t change the limiting beliefs you have about yourself. It also does not make you better in bed.

When you no fap and then get laid, it’s likely you’ll have a bad case of premature ejaculation… and even when 2nd round comes, lasting long enough to satisfy the lady might be a problem.

I mention this because it’s something I’ve noticed in some no fappers. Don’t put such expectations on anything. Any field or any practice.

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I can relate to absolutely everything you’ve said.

I know for sure that if I were to start masturbating again, porn would undoubtedly come flying back into my arms. In fact I miss porn more than I do the actual masturbation itself.

Exactly. That’s me right there. No women and no confidence. Additionally, no fap has made me realise the things I need to work on in my life. Without it, I would have had this false sense of security with myself forever. That’s a scary thought honestly.

100%. I thought I’d become this confident alpha male. Turns out after 103 days that I’m still very anxious and nervous.

This is gold! What’s interesting is that women definitely seem to like my presence. But my anxiety makes me just as bad as I was with them, only they’ve got a higher tolerance for me.

This is the only thing I haven’t gotten to yet haha. Wish me luck.

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Had this realization a few months ago. Really opened my eyes to how I blindly believed in the benefits.

I still practice Nofap but there is no expectation of becoming a social god, confident alpha, etc.

Just to focus on important things.

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Not in a serious way like you may be thinking

And I’m gonna do it with strangers.

So what do I care about what those women who are strangers think of me, lol.

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C’mon bro women are not some saint goddesses that “they’ve got higher tolerance for you”

They are your equal.

Stop putting them on a pedestal

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i see where you’re going with this. if two consenting adults agree and have NSA (no strings attached), then i feel this is a confident way of approaching sex.

agreed! we are all equal.

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