When I first discovered these audios I thought of them as a tool used to help others but now it has strayed far away from that. This forum is now hidden behind a paywall, you are not even able to get a description of the audios you’re using for some reason it feel’s like this community is turning private and completely trying to disappear from the public eye. I don’t understand why this is happening, If its about money then are we supposed to assume its always been about money and nothing else? I know no other creators that can compete with sapien medicine, the only thing lacking is marketing but the quality of the audios are incomparable. I believe things can get better and this solution that the sapien medicine team have created is not going to work long term. There needs to be change to this, I’m going to forget I ever discovered these audios and go back to my normal life.
There has been a lot of discussion about the choice to make the forum member supported. I am sorry that you feel the decision is not of benefit to you. There are still many open threads that can be read by all. The forum costs money to maintain and for the last years since its inception the admin have been covering the costs. Given the situation to either keep the forum going or shut it down, it was decided to make it member-supported. There are still many no-cost options available via YouTube, Odysee and others. Also discord
It is not mandatory to take part in the current forum configuration and I hope you find other options that are more to your liking. Thanks for being with us up to this point.
I kind of agree with you. When captain was still around and the forum was open to everyone, I used to visit everyday and have discussions. Now, there’s nothing. I know they have to cover the costs, but still, it feels like the era of sapien medicine is gone
It may feel like it, but options were rather limited and we may be rather grateful that it’s still here.
But also, Captain is making fields and slowly reviving the channel, so I believe things are working in the positive direction, so maybe things will get much better before you know it.
And also, forgot to mention (but important) that you didn’t rly seem to consider that in addition to the access to forum areas and functions, Sammy did step up and started offering even extra to it.
Not gonna spoil anything, but I can tell you, it’s way more than just ‘worth it’.
A bit of his monetization contributed to the running of this forum before he became semi-retired. Nothing is really going to go back to how it used to be. The only next step for him now would be to eventually become fully retired from making fields altogether one day. The only thing I can say right now is to enjoy the new albums he’s bringing out, and hopefully we can look forward to the next best thing in the future.
I’ve been on this forum for many years, and I’m still here… because I don’t really have anywhere else to go. Although I’ll probably wont to be hanging about here much anymore, since both the forum and Discord server feel completely barren now. So I’ll be making my departure whenever once I’ve found another place.
I feel you and all the fields on Odysee still have descriptions and if you are worried about the new albums released this year, their descriptions are not even here, no one knows about exactly what each one does but to make out from the names of the fields.
Sammy has been offering a lot for the patreon membership, way more than the paid amount so far, at least for the one I took. But if you are not in a position to afford then you are not losing out much because the old fields are there on Odysee and new fields on YT. So, don’t worry.
Given a choice that contribution is made voluntary to meet the forum costs, you already know the answer.
Before you go, have you made this place all that you could while you were here - have you left testimonials on all the fields and NFTs you have? There are tons of people who drop by and just read. Each one of them is a potential member. Think of it - you can be the person that shows them another layer of SapienMed magic by giving your words and energies to encouraging participation. I highly commend you in wanting to find your soul tribe, just consider that while you are here, you are a part of ours.
Now that the feedback of this post and other comments have been kind and understanding, here I come like the Kool-aid man to not be so understanding because… fair is fair and i stand firmly on it.
tell me how is this your perception when:
1- youtube channels has still quite a few albums plus Captain has been uploading new ones despite his desire to retire completely, he still pushes himself and comes out of the hidden place to continue helping others
2- all energetic alchemy audios which are of immense value are still up and running
3- All Sapien Medicine and Dream Seeds audios are on Odysee
4- without loging in i checked what treads are open that shows SM still wants to help others
I was quite surprised, it has a lot still open:
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Mass Meditation for a Better World (i hope you join that one every time someone announces they are going to meditate, cause that is our duty as well to help others, i get help, you get help, everybody helps. as it should be)
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Share your Results has a MASSIVE data of people talking about all types of fields, best ways to use them, testimonies etc.
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Rquesting Healing (what an amazing way this community helps others)
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Social Lounge: almost all threads are open to the public, at least 5, to chit chat, to discuss about anything, to entertain if people feels lonely, bored, depressed etc… big way to help others imo. no one feels alone in those posts, mood uplifter for sure.
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General Discussion: I mean you can find anything you can imagine and not in just that category, open to the public. with lots and lots and lots of public posts.
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Random Thoughts… a literal place to be yourself, express yourself, look at the word with whatever view you want, a lot of gems of info in them too.
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Audios Category is open!! hundreds of threads about audios discussions are there to help!
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Spirituality! lots and lots of posts to help navigate this life and all its things. that is a big help the forum offers… public.
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New comers help: there is always people willing to help the newbies about SM, fields etc
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NFT all are open, with all info and discussions and if you want to get your hands on them you can also check the NFT buy and sale thread! because… its public.
i counted how many threads are open right now to have discussions on… going back up to just Dec there are 170 threads you can join and discuss.
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Perception… its just that.
My only advices for anyone ever will always be, adapt to changes and flow like water.
always always focus on the good and positive and youll see more of it, and enjoy what is there, while is there.
forward always, always forward
what is normal life?
are you sure about that?
youll be back, once that normal life reality hits you hard. ;)
and you will be welcome. always.
edit: to be fair @SilentPhantom did participate in other posts that are locked (i didnt see them when i checked your profile before loging in)
but there are a lot of places you can have a discussion, also Discord if you cant find what you look for.
All of you are free to leave and I am not going to convince you to stay. Thanks for spending the time that you have here and I give you my love and thanks anyways.
I will continue doing as I do and pushing forward in the little ways I can. I will be posting some of the articles and other such things I post on the patreon to enlightenedstates publicly soon. Obviously will keep some things exclusive but I don’t want to fully gatekeep that kind of info as I think can be helpful to some people.
If there’s a way to solidify value where I can keep the patreon up and running to pay for forum while the forum is still fully public, I would gladly do it. But I don’t know if I’m there yet.
But to those who seek to go, peace and farewell
I resonate with your sentiments mostly.
I also found myself thinking that it would be better otherwise, with an open, free and public forum. People above have explained clearly why it is the way it is right now.
But one other thing:
May I ask why?
Because…
First this reminds me of one of my colleagues who wanted to boycott the usage of a very useful app simply because she heard a rumour about the creator of the app. I personally found that exaggerated, especially because the product (the app) is so useful. Plus, it was just a rumour, not evidence.
And secondly, much more importantly:
Why choose a normal life?
I mean I get it. There’s appeal in it. Some of the most foundational and universal truths can be found in the mundane. I guess it depends how you define “normal”. Since you indicate that a normal life to you implies the exclusion of sapien medicine fields, that means you willingly choose a life without magic.
I mean, for me personally, let me assume I never found sapien medicine, let’s assume I’m back to my old thinking habits, old relationships, old lifestyles etc. I imagine all of that is my current life now.
I would be scared as hell, to be honest. I would probably blame everything and everyone. I would think the world is against me.
Because that “normal” life without magic… Without all the realizations, the insights, the knowledge, etc etc.
It just sounds so sad to me. And scary. And dull.
That’s why I’m honestly flabbergasted at the fact that you even wanna forget you ever found these audios. To me this seems so… I don’t know… Pointless? A step back?
But anyways.
I know it’s everyone’s own choice
Everybody has their own opinion.
Still, highly highly recommend you to at least think about this again.
Self-sabotage at its finest.
The OP is expressing grief and frustration. The logic chopping and nano-refutations are not helping.
There’s nothing wrong with the feelings the OP expressed. I share them—if not the letter, then the spirit. Something very nice fell apart.
To @TokaiTeio027, there’s nothing particularly special going on in the walled off parts of the forum. You’re not missing a lot of current activity. There’s far more discussion about recent releases on YouTube than about any NFT of yore. If you really need a field description you can work The Way Back Machine. It’s not easy, but it’s not rocket science.
I appreciate what SammyG does on Patreon, but I contribute to the Patreon because it’s an easy way to preserve something nice. So many nice things on the Internet disappear. Mostly I revisit some testimonials on the off chance that some fields might come back or read about the few NFTs I have and the zillions I don’t. Just reading the descriptions can open one’s mind to the greater possibilities in this life.
In short, all the real action is in the public, free spaces on the forum. The walled off space is for reading–and nostalgia. Also, I’d encourage you to separate the greatness of the fields from the current activity levels in the forum. Stick around. There’s no in-crowd that you’re being excluded from; there’s not even a crowd.
Observation on the SapienMed side: There have been a good number of new releases lately at no cost. If each one of us plays and gives testimonials on each of them it would show gratitude to the creator and give support to the forum. It doesn’t matter what our numbers are as long as we continue to use and benefit from the new fields Dream is creating and let everyone know so that they can also be encouraged to enjoy them.
Observation on the Enlightened States side: Sammy continues to give us gems of wisdom for meditation and growth as well as a webinar today. Please participate!
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Hostile forces
But there is another difficulty. It is not only those vibrations that come from other people or from the universal vital that cause concern to the seeker (however, it is hardly possible to distinguish between these two types of vibrations, since the individual is only a ground station of the universal vital or universal mind, and the vibrations of these two types are endlessly intertwined with each other). There is another type of vibration that differs from others in its suddenness and frenzy. The seeker feels these vibrations literally crashing down on him, like a hurricane. Within a few seconds, he becomes a “different person”, completely forgetting his very purpose, his efforts, his goal, as if everything had lost its meaning, was swept away by the flood, fell apart. These are what Mother and Sri Aurobindo call hostile forces. These are highly conscious forces whose sole purpose, it seems, is to discourage the seeker and force him to turn away from his chosen path. One can easily notice the first sign of their appearance: joy is clouded, consciousness is clouded, everything is clothed in a tragic atmosphere. Suffering is the first sign of the enemy’s presence.
Tragedy is a favorite haunt of these forces; this is how they can create the greatest devastation — because they involve their old partner in the game, who sits inside us and continues to love tragedy even when crying for help. They usually seek first of all to push us to sudden, extreme and irreversible decisions in order to lead us as far away from the path as possible — this is a pressing, obsessive vibration that requires immediate consent. Or they try with amazing ingenuity to destroy the basic principles that guide us in our quest to prove that we are deceiving ourselves and our efforts will lead to nothing. More often than not, they cause depression by involving another partner in us, whom Sri Aurobindo calls the man of sorrows, in their game.: this is a friend… who is wrapped in seven—layered veils of tragedy and despondency - he would not feel justified in his condition if he could not be terribly unhappy.
All these vibrations of chaos, which we call “our” sadness or “our” worries, immediately cause the protective “snow wall” to weaken or collapse, opening the doors wide to hostile forces. They have many ways at their disposal to attack us—and this is truly nothing more than an attack—and the stronger our resolve, the tougher, more ruthless they are. This may seem like an exaggeration, but only those who have never tried to move forward can doubt it. As long as we walk in a common herd, life can be relatively simple, with its successes and failures — few successes, but not too many failures; however, as soon as we want to leave the common rut, thousands of forces rise up, suddenly very interested in us behaving “like everyone else” — we see firsthand how well our connection is organized. In addition, we learn that we can only fall as low as we can rise—our falls are in exact accordance with our climbing ability.
Satprem. “Sri Aurobindo or The Journey of Consciousness”
The changes in Sapien Med that began last November are a good reason for these forces to shake our resolve. Let’s not succumb to provocations and make hasty decisions.
As for this very topic and the first post…If $ 5 per month can discourage the desire to continue, there was no serious attitude from the beginning.
I get that change isn’t always easy, but let’s not forget that this forum, along with tracks on Youtube, Patreon, Gumroad and etc almost disappeared completely back in November.
Dream was done, probably burned out from dealing with self-appointed resellers of premium fields, piracy, entitlement, and negativity. It was only through collective effort of some members here via SammyG’s patreon that we managed to bring it back.
Now, with no more premium track sales and no new ones being made, the revenue that once helped sustain this space is gone. Yet, some people still expect everything to be free, as if it’s a given. But running a forum isn’t free. It takes time, energy, and money.
Instead of focusing on what’s changed, maybe we can appreciate that this space still exists at all. If we truly value it, supporting it in some way, whether financially or simply with gratitude, goes a long way.