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@Rosechalice I’ve left plenty of testimonials and have given my support to many users who have needed help on here; whether people found it useful or not, I’m not really sure. Many of them probably went unnoticed since I usually commented at irregular intervals. I might not have left any spiritual knowledge behind and don’t intend in leaving any as I’m not as spiritually adept as many of you lot are since I’m just a follower of your teachings, but I have taken part in the discussion of the fields we use.

I haven’t written anything as of late since the forum went down, though. Since you have mentioned it, I will try my best to chirp in as much as I can whilst I’m here, although sometimes somebody just beats me to the answer before I can even step in.

Well, thank you for reassuring me of that; it feels welcoming. I originally came to this forum (back in 2020) because I wanted to know about the fields I was listening to since the descriptions on some fields were quite vague at times or I didn’t understand them. I never really thought I’d become engaged with the community or expected to stay in such a place for so long, you know. I suppose this forum can also be like a sanctuary for lonely, forgotten souls lol.

I don’t know how long I’ll be here for but I might just stay until Dream stops making fields altogether or once everyone has disengaged from the forum.

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their is so much i wanted to say, but i kept my silence.

I am sitting here, haven’t listened to my audios in so long, am down so so so much money, doubt if i was going crazy and if audios even worked.
Everyone my age was spending money on clothes and the things they like, i thought all this would be an investment.

And then its like a split in the face when am told i have to pay to see the description or reviews for fields that i put over 1000+

am so sick an tired of it all

their so much i want to say, but i am going to keep my silence for the sake of keeping things calm

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@SammyG i notice the patreon is earning 3000 dollars a month? Is it really so expensive to maintain a forum that it warrants this large a sum? By my understanding, it is at most a few thousand annually, not monthly to maintain a website

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@toby

First off, Patreon doesn’t have a cap on number of members, so if it’s earning more than needed to run forum, why not? I can tell u running a forum is quite expensive, even if it’s not 3k monthly.

Secondly, you didn’t account for his time. Managing a big forum like that is not an easy task, energy and time-wise.

Thirdly, as you can see below, Sammy offers much more than running the forum.

So, I believe you have to put together to whole picture before judging it.

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Look, I understand. It’s sure not perfect, but it is needed to see it within a larger context. we pretty much stood between just 2 options:

  • Ending the forum altogether

  • Making it continue together

So we thankfully went with the second one and it works. In not so great situations, we usually have to make some sacrifices. But it’s just 5 bucks and you can save all of that descriptions and reviews, I don’t believe that’s too much, especially considering the context.

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The strangest topic I’ve seen in two and a half years.
"Give it to me and give it everything, but don’t ask for anything in return, otherwise I’ll be offended! But I will not leave like other uncles and aunts, but I will continue to sit here and be offended, clutching my $5 in my fist. "
Yes, this is not a sum at all, for access to all the topics and descriptions here, as well as for Patreon, as it has become today, with all the articles, webinars and unexpected gifts.

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The forum is much more expensive than what you estimate.
Plus, Sammy’s time etc.
Not gonna reveal any numbers here because that is not the point.

The point is that people should rather be focussing on how much value they get out of something instead of thinking about how much someone else earns or does not earn. Focus on your personal value and ROI and don’t waste time counting other people’s money :slight_smile:

For me personally, the amount of knowledge in this forum is extremely high and I have spent at least 3 years reading and learning here every single day.

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A major part of Patreon’s value is access to these exclusive forum sections…that’s why most people subscribed in the first place.

If I unlock the forum after reaching this funding goal, many will unsubscribe, and I’ll be right back to square one.

But Patreon isn’t just about access…it’s also about content. A significant amount of work goes into creating and providing that content, and there’s plenty more to come.

At this stage in my life, I can’t afford to invest time in things that don’t generate income. I have a family now, and my time is extremely limited. Anyone in my position would understand.

My goal is simple: to share what I want to share, say what I want to say, and provide value to the world…while making a living from it. That’s just the reality of how things work.

I want to fully reopen the forum, and I’m actively working on a way to do so. But it’s not something that happens overnight. So while some may frame this as greed, I ask that you at least consider my position.

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Haha :joy:
I can’t deny it made me laugh :joy:

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genuine question: the way you say this makes me think you haven’t got a return on investment, so have the brain fields not worked in any measurable way for you?

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I am benefitting from fields more now because I am not thinking as much about the results. One thing about being online so much is that it can draw you away from your life and creating actual change. I think toning it down a bit has created more balance for me and space to actually appreciate Dream’s work.

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i agree.

we were on a roll non stop jumping from one field to the next cool new one like a whac - a - mole, and there was this energy of never having enough and always thirsty for more around the forum. and the truth is that consistency and commitment are the real winners.

I know a lot of members have moved to other creators, some have even stopped using Dreams fields and I just shake my head… of course not judging at all every one has the right to follow the path they want, i also visit here and there a couple other channels, they were present in my life from before anyway.

but what i wish they knew, find out or realize one day is that the issue wasnt and never will be that this or that creator is gone or stopped creating etc. the problem lies within, the dissatisfaction lies inside, and if that realization never comes, they will always be looking for the next seemingly amazing new cool thing, creator or tool, putting all the hopes in them that “this one thing” will solve my issues… but itll never happen that way.

I chose to find joy in this phase, i feel a knot of nostalgia and some sadness in my throat or chest, with every play of old fields, and i always wonder…

“DID WE REALLY DESERVE DREAM IN OUR LIVES?”

what comes next we dont know, perhaps just a lonely journey within but hopefully growing and sharing with those that remain. and def honoring for ever the gifts i got.

Going back to old forgotten fields and NFTs, realizing how powerful theyve grown, how beautifully done they were made. each one is such a piece of magnificent art, I choose to stay and keep pushing forward even if i dont want to sometimes, and I know really know, its been an effort for most of us, its been hard for Sammy, and the moderators, its been hard to look ahead when there was a different future we envisioned before, but we cant keep crying over the spilled milk. we gotta stop beating the dead horse…

move on already from what was and build anew, there is nothing else but what we can create ahead. thats it. what we have in front of us whatever you see IS what it is there now.

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What a gloomy atmosphere. The captain is recovering, Youtube is coming to life, not to mention Patreon. It seems to me that there is no reason to hang your nose and sigh for the past. I believe that there are many more miracles ahead of us.
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Yes

Yes

Yes…?

Yes.

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The guitar picture is beautiful

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This is my mentality too. Cheers Sir🥂

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it is a rethorical question :)

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Where can I find the discord server?

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I understand that you left maybe a career to help dream build on online platform and maybe you felt hurt when he stated that has not creating new products anymore, which means that you were left basically on your own financially. I completely understand that. But I still want to say what’s on my mind, I have kept it for to long and its been really annoying me. I be really debating weather to send this message at all, or maybe just message you privately, but I for too long have constantly said nevermind to everything in my life and that create a feeling of feeling being unheard within me. And even in this message, I truly don’t say everything I want.

I would of much rather prefer say what you just said, then what you said initially, which was that the forum had to be put behind a paywall instead. I don’t want to bring things to life, but its no secret that we have been lied to (talking about other things).

But I want to point something out, how do you expect us to put trust in the fields, when you yourself act like it doesn’t work. Take for example you yourself, you said to others that it easier then ever for anyone to become a millionaire. How are I meant to believe fields, when it seems you don’t yourself. Couldn’t you build something on the side, with all the fields you have, the brain fields, the luck, the money fields, the servtiors, all the special fields, the excusive ones, the ones that were too powerful to even put it behind a paywall.

Their are others on this fourm, who claim to be so spiritually mature, yet that couldn’t be the furthest from the truth, their so rude to others, I truly never understand why. I mean, just go look at their comment history. That’s beside the point.

I have respect for you Sammy, but I don’t want this to come of as rude or me trying to this or that. Am so sick an tired, I feel robbed, I feel so disrespected, I feel humiliated and lied to countless times. I bought the course and I never felt so robbed in my life, it was like the course was just a pdf file with a story and it was something like, ohh dream blessed the story over it to create effect, I cant really remember the exact details.
Also I bought Griffin Philosopher with the promise that life time upgrades will constantly be available, and now everything been deleted. And I joined this fourm when I was around 16, and I put so much money in believe it was an investment, now am sitting here, thinking was a dumb fool, who was just robbed from going out having the best time of my life with all my friends. I met amazing people on this fourm, but I see that their are new fields that have price tags on, and when is it enough, I think its time to say good bye.

I joined this forum because I was insecure about my intelligence, and here I am thinking the irony of it all.
It seems like the same old thing, i feel so disrespect by dream, i mean 1000 of comments celebrating him, and one person is rude and he threats to leave and he goes on to say how everyone criticisms him. I dont know dream, but i think his messages are cool to read, but man i don’t even know anymore. Hes back on the forum and already we been marketed fields. Is that all it is, money.

I never complained about fields prices, i support his work, I put in so much fucking money, never complained about prices, I picked up a job to pay for the fields, and I feel so spat in the face. Already were been marketed fields, why isn’t the new fields behind a paywall.
At this point am so convinced you guys laugh at us on the way to the bank.

Not to mention other field creators who make perfect English fields, but they themselves, don’t write perfect English.

I have been in this fourm for years, I have seen the deleted posts that people try to make, I have seen the criticism been shut by others like some type of hive mind. This post is more a rant, but I want to say much more about things that I have seen happen on the fourm and the years. But its better not to. I don’t really know if fields have worked on me, I think it has, but then theirs something that proves they haven’t, and I was just delusional.

I aready know what the response are going to be. I was told buy this aura field, buy this charka field, you have to buy the PONR, you have to buy the jing field. I am tired

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