also i did not mention that but big up to Sammy and Rosechalice for not giving up and keep pushing, despite their busy lives and whatever else they do.
this is not about what else we can get out of it but to keep a legacy of what it was and how it could continue building our lives and generations to come with what we were lucky and honored to come across passing it along.
that is the why, gladly quite a number of us will always fight to keep alive.
Taking your age into consideration, itās clear you might not fully grasp how the world works just yet. Running a forum like this isnāt free or cheap. Discourse alone can cost between $100 and $500 a month, depending on the plan.
So, who exactly do you think should be footing the bill for you to get everything for free? As you get older, youāll understand that things donāt just appear out of thin air.
@Rosechalice Iāve left plenty of testimonials and have given my support to many users who have needed help on here; whether people found it useful or not, Iām not really sure. Many of them probably went unnoticed since I usually commented at irregular intervals. I might not have left any spiritual knowledge behind and donāt intend in leaving any as Iām not as spiritually adept as many of you lot are since Iām just a follower of your teachings, but I have taken part in the discussion of the fields we use.
I havenāt written anything as of late since the forum went down, though. Since you have mentioned it, I will try my best to chirp in as much as I can whilst Iām here, although sometimes somebody just beats me to the answer before I can even step in.
Well, thank you for reassuring me of that; it feels welcoming. I originally came to this forum (back in 2020) because I wanted to know about the fields I was listening to since the descriptions on some fields were quite vague at times or I didnāt understand them. I never really thought Iād become engaged with the community or expected to stay in such a place for so long, you know. I suppose this forum can also be like a sanctuary for lonely, forgotten souls lol.
I donāt know how long Iāll be here for but I might just stay until Dream stops making fields altogether or once everyone has disengaged from the forum.
their is so much i wanted to say, but i kept my silence.
I am sitting here, havenāt listened to my audios in so long, am down so so so much money, doubt if i was going crazy and if audios even worked.
Everyone my age was spending money on clothes and the things they like, i thought all this would be an investment.
And then its like a split in the face when am told i have to pay to see the description or reviews for fields that i put over 1000+
am so sick an tired of it all
their so much i want to say, but i am going to keep my silence for the sake of keeping things calm
@SammyG i notice the patreon is earning 3000 dollars a month? Is it really so expensive to maintain a forum that it warrants this large a sum? By my understanding, it is at most a few thousand annually, not monthly to maintain a website
First off, Patreon doesnāt have a cap on number of members, so if itās earning more than needed to run forum, why not? I can tell u running a forum is quite expensive, even if itās not 3k monthly.
Secondly, you didnāt account for his time. Managing a big forum like that is not an easy task, energy and time-wise.
Thirdly, as you can see below, Sammy offers much more than running the forum.
So, I believe you have to put together to whole picture before judging it.
Look, I understand. Itās sure not perfect, but it is needed to see it within a larger context. we pretty much stood between just 2 options:
Ending the forum altogether
Making it continue together
So we thankfully went with the second one and it works. In not so great situations, we usually have to make some sacrifices. But itās just 5 bucks and you can save all of that descriptions and reviews, I donāt believe thatās too much, especially considering the context.
The strangest topic Iāve seen in two and a half years.
"Give it to me and give it everything, but donāt ask for anything in return, otherwise Iāll be offended! But I will not leave like other uncles and aunts, but I will continue to sit here and be offended, clutching my $5 in my fist. "
Yes, this is not a sum at all, for access to all the topics and descriptions here, as well as for Patreon, as it has become today, with all the articles, webinars and unexpected gifts.
The forum is much more expensive than what you estimate.
Plus, Sammyās time etc.
Not gonna reveal any numbers here because that is not the point.
The point is that people should rather be focussing on how much value they get out of something instead of thinking about how much someone else earns or does not earn. Focus on your personal value and ROI and donāt waste time counting other peopleās money 
For me personally, the amount of knowledge in this forum is extremely high and I have spent at least 3 years reading and learning here every single day.
A major part of Patreonās value is access to these exclusive forum sectionsā¦thatās why most people subscribed in the first place.
If I unlock the forum after reaching this funding goal, many will unsubscribe, and Iāll be right back to square one.
But Patreon isnāt just about accessā¦itās also about content. A significant amount of work goes into creating and providing that content, and thereās plenty more to come.
At this stage in my life, I canāt afford to invest time in things that donāt generate income. I have a family now, and my time is extremely limited. Anyone in my position would understand.
My goal is simple: to share what I want to share, say what I want to say, and provide value to the worldā¦while making a living from it. Thatās just the reality of how things work.
I want to fully reopen the forum, and Iām actively working on a way to do so. But itās not something that happens overnight. So while some may frame this as greed, I ask that you at least consider my position.
Haha 
I canāt deny it made me laugh
genuine question: the way you say this makes me think you havenāt got a return on investment, so have the brain fields not worked in any measurable way for you?
I am benefitting from fields more now because I am not thinking as much about the results. One thing about being online so much is that it can draw you away from your life and creating actual change. I think toning it down a bit has created more balance for me and space to actually appreciate Dreamās work.
i agree.
we were on a roll non stop jumping from one field to the next cool new one like a whac - a - mole, and there was this energy of never having enough and always thirsty for more around the forum. and the truth is that consistency and commitment are the real winners.
I know a lot of members have moved to other creators, some have even stopped using Dreams fields and I just shake my headā¦ of course not judging at all every one has the right to follow the path they want, i also visit here and there a couple other channels, they were present in my life from before anyway.
but what i wish they knew, find out or realize one day is that the issue wasnt and never will be that this or that creator is gone or stopped creating etc. the problem lies within, the dissatisfaction lies inside, and if that realization never comes, they will always be looking for the next seemingly amazing new cool thing, creator or tool, putting all the hopes in them that āthis one thingā will solve my issuesā¦ but itll never happen that way.
I chose to find joy in this phase, i feel a knot of nostalgia and some sadness in my throat or chest, with every play of old fields, and i always wonderā¦
āDID WE REALLY DESERVE DREAM IN OUR LIVES?ā
what comes next we dont know, perhaps just a lonely journey within but hopefully growing and sharing with those that remain. and def honoring for ever the gifts i got.
Going back to old forgotten fields and NFTs, realizing how powerful theyve grown, how beautifully done they were made. each one is such a piece of magnificent art, I choose to stay and keep pushing forward even if i dont want to sometimes, and I know really know, its been an effort for most of us, its been hard for Sammy, and the moderators, its been hard to look ahead when there was a different future we envisioned before, but we cant keep crying over the spilled milk. we gotta stop beating the dead horseā¦
move on already from what was and build anew, there is nothing else but what we can create ahead. thats it. what we have in front of us whatever you see IS what it is there now.
What a gloomy atmosphere. The captain is recovering, Youtube is coming to life, not to mention Patreon. It seems to me that there is no reason to hang your nose and sigh for the past. I believe that there are many more miracles ahead of us.
And this is for the mood:
Yes
Yes
Yesā¦?
Yes.
The guitar picture is beautiful
This is my mentality too. Cheers Sirš„
it is a rethorical question :)
