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Bro, it is not so easy to use common sense for a new member when there are so many raving about every new field, in all likelihood the person would take everything at the face value which even I did, the more I spent time on the forum the more I realised reviews can’t be trusted blindly.

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In light of some sentiments in this thread, I’d like to point your attention inwards, after all, that’s a lot of spirituality about. The root of some perceived problems is not having properly taken care of expectations and attachments.

Dream put down gumroad and stuff without without any earlier notice, and it’s clear nobody was ever happy about it. And his reasons might not be well understood. But given what he has given us over the years, I simply suggest giving him more faith and understanding.

We won’t change certain things, but we can learn from them and manage our expectations and attachments better. Bcs if unchecked, they’ll cause suffering sooner or later.

Detachment is key

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These things can hardly be any easy. After all, you cannot regulate everyone on what results they report.

But maybe it can be a part of a newbie introduction stuff if it isn’t already. And if they won’t read that, they’ll just have to learn it overtime, as ig most other people.

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Yes, on spiritual path nothing is guaranteed, it is a lesson for all, the dark night of the soul touches everyone especially the most saintly people with very simple lives.

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Everyone is “new” to everything at some point.

And the realizations you have made, I think those are great results!
You have learned a lot about filtering information.
Processing information.
Discerning information.
Listening to your inner guidance.
Sorting information.
Comparing information.
Managing on what or what you’re gonna spend your money.
And your time dedicated to listening to fields.

Those skills are important life skills.
They will benefit you for the rest of your physical life time, and beyond that.
It was good that it was not too easy and that it wasn’t presented and sorted out perfectly on a silver plate for you.
By going through this learning and growth process you advanced faster than most people on the planet.

Congratulations! :partying_face:

No sarcasm. Honest feedback bro :v:

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You just described everything perfectly. Atleast that’s how I feel about all of this. Thanks for writing it out

I understand Dream left Sammy out to dry, and he had to pivot on the spot to navigate the mess that was left

I read this a few times throughout this page.
I just want to say, i noticed and took note. I see what you all think.

Sapien Medicine quickly got outgrown and Dream found himself in over his head

I think I like when people create their own facts.
It bothers me like crazy.
But there is never no winning with people.
There will make up something to suit a story they told themselves,
regardless of any truth.
In over my head… hmm… but with what?

Of course. I will be quiet again and just observe.

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DM’d you.

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Cheers🥂

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then why would dream stop making NFT , close the sapien shop and old gumroad shop when he could earn so much more money from them

even now he can reupload the old gumrroad fields on the old gumroad shop
and earn money

the reason is obvious he does it out of passion instead of money

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Don’t engage,
they have already decided and judged.

There is nothing to be won, and time and energy to waste.

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Dear Dream,

I perceive my relationship with you as that of a customer and a provider of merchandise. I acknowledge that you regard your creations as high art, a perspective I respect. For the most part, I have been a satisfied customer and have refrained from expressing any criticism against you until now, including in the post immediately preceding this one within this thread.

What provoked your frustration with my last response? Am I not entitled to express a critical perspective based on my observations of this forum over the past few years? Consider your fan base: I believe that the efficacy of your fields and their functionality varies from person to person. Unfortunately, some individuals, such as the original poster of this thread, did not experience the outcomes they anticipated. This is a reasonable possibility, and I would not hold you accountable for failing to produce a universal remedy. Rather, the responsibility lies with those who harbored such expectations. You stated that you “can start throwing everybody under the bus.” This remark does not reflect the conduct of a person of integrity.

What troubled me was the tendency of your most ardent supporters to assert that repeatedly engaging with certain practices—such as “looping this or that”—or overcoming “subconscious blockages” would resolve all issues and ensure success. I am convinced that this is not how it operates.

From a business perspective, this dynamic could be advantageous to you. I am not suggesting that you should embody saintly virtues—no one does. Were I in your position, I would value such a devoted fan base.

Individuals seeking the transformative potential of your fields are often inherently vulnerable and, at times, impressionable. This observation underpins my earlier remark: I likened this community to a spiritual equivalent of Andrew Tate’s Hustlers University. Many genuinely believed that purchasing your fields would elevate them to extraordinary levels of prowess—whether as supermen or superwomen. Since last year, you have noticeably increased the production of field-related products. Some individuals diligently save their limited income solely to acquire what they perceive as magical solutions.

The audio files and digital images serve as media through which your fields are transmitted and manifested. The magic, however, does not reside in the files themselves but in the interaction between the fields and the user. If my original post lacked sufficient clarity on this point, let this serve as clarification: I do believe that your fields exist and have an effect.

However, there is a significant caveat. From an outsider’s perspective, how might people perceive customers who spend hundreds of dollars on what appears to be a mere MP3 file? Objectively, Dream, this business model may seem dubious to those unfamiliar with its premise. As customers, we were purchasing your “magic,” yet in the eyes of the conventional world, we are frequently regarded as irrational. This dynamic is noteworthy, not only here but also in other self-help enterprises.

Additionally, I intended to highlight how Sam appeared overwhelmed by your abrupt departure and subsequent return. I wished to extend my support to him for maintaining the forum and website’s operations during your absence. Were I in Sam’s position, I would have felt utterly disoriented. I cannot comment on your accusation against Sam, as I lack knowledge of the facts between you. Moreover, how you are treated by moderators, general users, or Sam is irrelevant to how you should treat your paying customers. I trust you understand this distinction.

That encapsulates what I intended to convey. Incidentally, if your inquiry about my place of residence was motivated by an intent to send a gift, I might consider disclosing it to you. After all, our relationship has been strictly that of customer and seller, and I request that you do not impose any expectations beyond this. Thank you.

I wish you success in the next phase of your journey.

Sincerely,
kimchi

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Hey man taking liberty here because we were together in the consul. You seriously don’t mean the things you said after being on forum for so long right?

You are redirecting the actions of some fanatic members to Captain, many of the reasons you cited are because of them, it is not fair to put the complete blame on Captain.

Sammy did a fantastic job of holding the fort but both Sammy and Captain have a long relationship, it is between them how things have to be or ought to be, it is not for us to assign accountability.

These nasty planetary transits are bringing out the bottled up anger and frustration of people globally.

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I just want to announce since its pretty obvious i most be one of the “fanátics” and “overboard” with fantastic reviews mentioned a few times in this thread…

that I will never hold back sharing my experiences with fields, exactly how i experience them, that if is not the outcome or experiences of others… thats not my fault, in the hundreds of reviews ive given over the years (Im Luna in case a few havent picked up) I have almost always put a disclaimer or reminded people that “its been my experience” or that “i think” “i feel” “this might” and “take it with a grain of salt”.

many times ive held back because some experiences for sure would sound fabricated, marketing intended or whatever words you guys like to use.

never have I shared anything with the intention or desire of feeling grandiose or special in this life with the outcomes of fields, my intention has always been with pure excitement gratitude but also with a deep desire for others to keep in mind my experiences in case they hadnt realized them, may be happening to a certain level to them, or to encourage them to explore, test the fields in different ways, create different playlists, think outside the box! so … they can find their own personalized “hidden gift aka experience”

i have even made threads explaining in detail all the possible ways to overcome blockages, i also do it on discord all the time, to strangers that are not even here in the forum, that dont even know who I am.

so please, if some of you feel that that has been merely to market Dreams products or a show as “being a fanatic” then you are really self sabotaging yourself rejecting what could be of real help if you just embrace it with eager to explore eyes, i have no extra benefit in the forum for doing that in case you were wondering. I do that for no other reason than to show my immense gratitude to Dreamweaver, ive known him for years and one does not need to be a moderator to know whats going on or to develop a sincere friendship outside the forum to know the bottom line of many things, and i dont have to explain that either.

My loyalty to him tho is a whole other level yes but let me tell you, thats not just to him, thats the only thing you see, but my loyalty will always go beyond for anyone or anything that has proven to me again and again deserving of it and my gratitide pushes me to show it. im sorry if its too much or difficult to understand for a lot of you. i get it.

people always point fingers at me and judge me for the ways i speak, i get that too and the why, i do, i do.

but one thing you cant refute tho is that every time i reply or debate or judge i display facts. examples, quote, copy paste. i dont just pull out ideas i think are the truth, and whenever i do it IT is because the person i am pointing out to has instead said something untrue or just their perception and openly say it as if it was a fact.

im here to support anyone that wants to be supported all the way, without restrictions, but i will not hold back my thoughts; how they are perceived, i cant help it. but specially to support Dreamweaver. whoever wants to take the sweet with the sour with me is welcome, anyone else i wish you all the best and endless blessings.

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I’m going to share my thoughts on a few things real quick, and I hope it’ll help. Hi Dream btw :wave:t3: good to see you on here.

These fields and Sapien Medicine have had an overall very positive impact on my life. I’ve had some serious health issues that, without the help of SM, I would be nowhere as far along as I’ve come.

My energy levels are multiple times higher every day compared to where they originally were. My ability to process information (though I’ve never been a dummy) has also increased dramatically. There have been other things too but those are two that come to mind immediately. The results you get come down to the level of responsibility you want to take for yourself.

Some fields are perfect for certain users, but not others. Some people could be using the right fields but in the wrong amounts. Everyone is different, and IT IS possible for every single person here to have a positive experience with these fields.

So, the next question is, “How?” “What do I have to do to ensure that I’m empowering myself and not making things confusing and overwhelming?”

Take a few minutes and teach yourself to dowse. There are some very simple videos on YouTube that will show you how to do it. Do it . It will change your life. Not only here, but for other areas of your life. It takes only minutes- go.

I have had this conversation privately with a couple of users, but I cannot stress enough how critical it is to be able to test a field for yourself before using it or buying it.

Your confidence will skyrocket knowing that the field you’re using is 100% the right one for you. You’ll also be able to skip fields that aren’t helpful for you. I have been guided to fields that I probably never would have tried, and I also been able to keep my playlists reasonable by removing other fields. I also know exactly how much to listen and how often to get the best possible results. No guessing, no wondering, no frustration.

One example I’ve seen of likely mismanagement of a field is luscious tresses.
That field is absolutely phenomenal….if used correctly. My testing shows it works best for me at about 6-7 loops every other day, not daily. I also tested someone else and it came up almost identical. Just one example of an amazing tool not being used the right way.

I sincerely hope this advice is taken and used to better your life and your results. If you have questions I don’t mind taking DMs to help guide you on your way either. SM has never been about whether it “works” or “doesn’t work”. The power is in your hands to make the right decisions.

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How do you test without buying a field? You don’t know how the energy interacts with you.

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Dowsing will tell you whether something will be beneficial for you beforehand. If it tests positively, you’ll know it’s good. It’s a powerful tool

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