toby
November 1, 2025, 12:03am
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i wrote this thread while i was high on ketamine lol. so i was in a very open minded state so i wrote up this big post and asked for dialogue but did not reply to anyone. i read and reflected on each and every post though
i saw this reply by sammy on an old post My Enlightenment Experience which is relavent to my post. thought i’d share
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like you had quite an adventure into the deep and perhaps experienced quite some transformation from it. Glad to hear you feel enlightened from it.
And I can’t tell you what enlightenment is. Nor can I tell you what you should experience. Everyone experiences different things in higher states of being to a certain degree. But what I will tell you that it may more than likely be that your experience is personal and not reflective of collective reality. It might be that you don’t have the necessary language to translate your experience so you translated some of the things you experienced with worldly concepts that mean certain things to many people.
Such as the Christian God and Satan in your experience and how your enlightenment granted you certain revelations about them and even had an effect on them. I can’t tell you what you experienced. You are the one that had it, not us. It will of course seem odd to us because the claims are grandiose and are of revelations that contradict much of what we’ve come to know of reality. So of course, our eyes will meet such ideas with doubt and skepticism.
Perhaps what you say is true but do not expect us to just believe it outright. Such things need to be personally experienced as truth by us to believe. If you believe them, then good for you. I will not judge you for it so as long as you don’t push it on us as universal truth. I don’t believe you are doing that right now as you are only sharing your experience.
What I will share not only to you but to everyone that goes down the spiritual path and explores the deeper states of consciousness… to the point that you break certain barriers in the mind…. That often, you might enter a place called ‘Chapel perilous.’
Chapel perilous is a psychological state in which an individual is uncertain whether some course of events was affected by a supernatural force or was a product of their own imagination. When you break the barriers between your conscious mind and subconscious mind, the lines between ‘non fiction’ and ‘fiction’ are broken. I believe it is important to be careful to not 100% believe in anything you subjectively experience or else you become engrossed in your own reality and lose connection to the rest of the collective reality. Because it’s not only you that exists here. We all do too.
This is why no matter how deep I go into the depths of my mind and whatever experiences I have with other beings or aliens or anything of that sort…. I always keep an inch of doubt. Even if the experience was clear as day. I already inherently believe everything to be true and not true at the same time since I believe everything is nothing/nothing is everything. Through this belief, my mind always remains open and never fully closes in on anything. And therefore I’m protected from losing my connection to collective reality and then going through a psychotic breakdown. This has happened to many occultists that ventured too deep. It can happen to anyone.
Just be careful man. And don’t be offended if some of us don’t follow with what you are saying. It’s rather logical to assume most wouldn’t be too open to it.